ONLY 50 FPS? Are U SERIOUS??

[mityakz]

Hi Guys! I noticed that game dont even look with how it actually performs on my system. I have 13400F and 4070 12GB. With this setup I play all my games on ultra 2k settings and get 80 fps almost everywhere. But Im frustrating that this bench shows only 50 FPS INDOORS in native 2k rendering without upscaling, and there is only walls and couple of objects in the scene. Game dont have stunning graphics or breakthrough tech and I really dont see any reason why it works so bad. Any other game with better picture in scenes like this will show 120 fps on ultra. Developers must work hard with optimisation.

[darkholyPL]

Publicado originalmente por Shintai:

if you run Dune in 4K, all ultra, no frame generation its completely amazing.

Saw it just now, native 4k ultra, running on a 4090. I guess I'm not as easily impressed as you are. Oh and those character models... damn.
Good thing Crysis 3 looked like 'an indie game' back then eh? Now we have the great looking models of Dune.... >.>
Trully gaming has evolved so much.

[Shintai]

Publicado originalmente por darkholyPL:

Saw it just now, native 4k ultra, running on a 4090. I guess I'm not as easily impressed as you are. Oh and those character models... damn.
Good thing Crysis 3 looked like 'an indie game' back then eh? Now we have the great looking models of Dune.... >.>
Trully gaming has evolved so much.

Crysis looks like an indie game today, not back then.

I think you just dislike the style. Because the models are way more detailed in Dune.

I think you should watch some youtube videos with the games you listed and see how they actually look in todays eyes.

[darkholyPL]

Publicado originalmente por Shintai:

I think you just dislike the style. Because the models are way more detailed in Dune.

Mate, we can agree to disagree on many things, but don't try to gaslight me (or yourself I guess) that the models are great.
Look at the benchmark again and specifically look at the models. That one lady (?) at the second part, sitting at the table with 2 other NPCs looks like a Bethesda model... She looks like the random NPCs in Starfield... Do not tell me that's a good looking model.

[Big_Dee]

they graphics were crap mate for sure but i maxed this game out at 1440p with no DLSS on a 3070 and it was about 50FSP

[בתאניה]

Everyone insists on maxing the games settings out and then crying that it's crap and I find it amusing that an RX6600 can run the game and get 70+ FPS without any stuttering or performance issues, on Linux with a mix of low/med/high settings.

[Entropic Mushroom]

Publicado originalmente por בתאניה:

Everyone insists on maxing the games settings out and then crying that it's crap and I find it amusing that an RX6600 can run the game and get 70+ FPS without any stuttering or performance issues, on Linux with a mix of low/med/high settings.

Exactly. These people are only highlighting their own ignorance.

[namco]

bro has a damaged 13th gen and never got intel to replace it for free, since they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the microcode to edge-lord more performance against amd. and even if you update your motherboard bios now to fix the issue, once the damage is done to your cpu, youre out of luck.

[my idiot team]

I find the graphics a bit below my expectations but I do have high hopes for this game as I like Sci-Fi games and balanced PvP :) I hope the developers do not go the Activation way and release a micro transaction simulator. While I think 50$ is a bit steep considering expectations of DLC and expansions, maybe the game will be worth it. As to performance I ran the benchmark with 700 tabs in chrome, a mix of youtube and news websites, DaVinci Resolve merging a 720p 4 h video and LM studio open and loaded a small 32B Q8 model. My results are below and I ddint see anything strange about the graphics. The game runs light, I dont have the Afterburner on at all times but I dont think the GPU went anywhere above 50 degrees, same for the CPU. The case fans were at about 20-30%, after setting them up in the asrock bios utility I find the stages to be more accurate to any app control, so the fan speed basically accurately reflects the load. I do use a montech air case which has around 40 L air output per second. I assembled that rig 1 year and 1 weeks ago and was intent on a setup with enough and well organized lanes on the mobo which is common and good VRM on the mobo and a good VRM on the GPU which are very uncommon and actually had to dig up a lot of dirt because manufacturers usually hide this well. So the best things at the time were asrock b650m rs pro and KFA2 rtx 4070 super. Other important things are to run an official stock image of windows, updating your VC++ packages and GPU drivers. I confirm that this game and most others will not get bottle necked by a slow SATA SSD. I keep the M2 Transcend MTE250H free of games and actually run them from a cheap Intenso SSD which is 13 times slower than the M2 SSD. My point is that I havent bumped into a game that requires 7GB read rate or else it bottlenecks, so most of the marketing you see online doesnt actually relate to performance. My advice is to start with a fresh image, keep it clean and updated and try to clone it a few times per year, also do look for quality components when building a rig and not for RGB and nice packaging which actually would also better price wise.

Benchmark Results

Player Built Bases
Maximum FPS: 265.7
Average FPS: 223.3
Minimum FPS: 185.1

Harko Village
Maximum FPS: 287.4
Average FPS: 236.0
Minimum FPS: 151.7

Sandworm Emerges
Maximum FPS: 312.1
Average FPS: 276.2
Minimum FPS: 238.6

🟡 System Specs
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 6-Core Processor
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER
Refresh Rate: 120 Hz
Resolution: 1920x1080
VRAM: 12 GB
RAM: 64 GB

🟡 Graphics Settings
VSync: Off
Antialiasing & Upscalers: DLSS
DLSS Upscaler Quality: Balanced
Screen Percentage: 100%
Frame Generation: DLSSG
Anti-aliasing Quality: Ultra
Graphics Quality: Auto
View Distance: Ultra
Post Processing: Ultra
Shadow Quality: Ultra
Effects Quality: Ultra
Texture Quality: Ultra
Foliage Quality: Ultra
Hair Quality: Ultra
Motion Blur: Off
Global Illumination Method: Performance
Global Illumination Quality: Ultra
Global Illumination Reflections Quality: Ultra

[darkholyPL]

Publicado originalmente por my idiot team:

🟡 Graphics Settings
VSync: Off
Antialiasing & Upscalers: DLSS
DLSS Upscaler Quality: Balanced
Frame Generation: DLSSG

Uh huh, that's nice.

Now run the bench with no DLSS and no Frame gen, and report back.

[Mathieas]

I have a pretty high end tuned system. Results are what i would consider playable but given the hardware I have it shows how difficult this game is going to be to run at max settings without upscalers.


System:

CPU: Intel 14900k Tuned (HT OFF, ECORES ON, 5.7/4.4 P/E cores, Undervolted)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 24GB OCed to 2955/11251
RAM: 48GB, 7200Mhz Tuned


Settings:

Resolution: 3440X1440
Setting: everything on Ultra, upscaling off, frame generation off. VSync off, Motion blur off.

Results:

Max: 114, 125, 158
Avg: 92, 101, 135
Min: 82, 81, 108

Results screen:
https://imgur.com/a/wEqZLjN

[Big_Dee]

Publicado originalmente por Entropic Mushroom:

Publicado originalmente por בתאניה:

Everyone insists on maxing the games settings out and then crying that it's crap and I find it amusing that an RX6600 can run the game and get 70+ FPS without any stuttering or performance issues, on Linux with a mix of low/med/high settings.

Exactly. These people are only highlighting their own ignorance.

bit of a bold statement to make, im not saying the FPS was crap at 50 on max settings, im saying the graphics are crap

[Entropic Mushroom]

Publicado originalmente por Big_Dee:

Publicado originalmente por Entropic Mushroom:

Exactly. These people are only highlighting their own ignorance.

bit of a bold statement to make, im not saying the FPS was crap at 50 on max settings, im saying the graphics are crap

Uhuh, your inability to actually make a concise point, only highlights mine.

[DAOWAce]

Game is very badly optimized, crippled by UE5's standard features (lumen/nanite) ontop of shader compile stutter ontop of said bad optimization. If your target is say 3440x1440 @120Hz on a 4090, you'll need DLSS and even framegen. And the game looks below average for the hardware it demands.

People defending this lack any real sense.

[Entropic Mushroom]

Publicado originalmente por DAOWAce:

Game is very badly optimized, crippled by UE5's standard features (lumen/nanite) ontop of shader compile stutter ontop of said bad optimization. If your target is say 1440p@120Hz on a 4090, you'll need DLSS and even framegen. And the game looks below average for the hardware it demands.

People defending this lack any real sense.

Absolute and utter bollocks! If you scroll up you'll see my bench on a 4080 Super getting 80-100 FPS with no Upscaling or frame gen on a CPU that's nearly 6 years old now.

[RunForRest]

Im pretty happy
https://images.steamusercontent.com/ugc/13051750619609685/72CA1D0900B31F51343CCE33AEF25868A551EC0A/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

Publicado originalmente por DAOWAce:

Game is very badly optimized, crippled by UE5's standard features (lumen/nanite) ontop of shader compile stutter ontop of said bad optimization. If your target is say 1440p@120Hz on a 4090, you'll need DLSS and even framegen. And the game looks below average for the hardware it demands.

People defending this lack any real sense.

Aha - well lets see:
Black State Running on DLSS 4 Looks Superb!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBRHVgRJjlE
That has no lumen and no nanite! For a reason!

Stop listening to crap gaming mainstream media and listen to experts!
https://www.youtube.com/@ThreatInteractive

On a sidenote im using Losless Scaling for all games now to get x2 or x3 fps WITHOUT issues. No input lag or annoying visual glitches. Even for Battlefield 180fps @180hz.
And thats a 3rd party program to generate frames. Not an internal solution, which SHOULD work better if gamedevs put their focus on it. But LS most times is just better.