Staying true to the lore.

[Meeka Moon]

I am very excited to get into Dune and explore the lore, the world, and learn more about it.

But then immersion is immediately broken when the default voice for a female is a man's voice? Male voices in the female character options?

BEARDS in the female character options? Seriously, WHAT?

I love beards on men. I have even said I wish more games would give men more options for masculine facial hair. I am happy this game does this... But your beards are bugged and showing up in the FEMALE options... Which may be funny now but will just cause issues later.

This must be a bug or something that was overlooked and needs fixed. It would be a funny bug maybe, but with all the terribly woke games, it scares me a little that crazy real world politics and insanity may be injected into the Dune universe, tainting the experience.

Maybe I am silly and this bug will be fixed quickly, in which case never mind me hehe.

I liked the set up, the lore with picking background. I hope this game leans more into the role play and story elements to make us feel like part of the Dune world!

I liked the character customization, despite the bugs with the male voices and beards for women, you might want to check men to make sure the female voices are not registering for males, or that will get really weird and awkward and confusing!

The character models look good, though, and the game seems to run well. The only oddity I had, was when alt-tabbed my GPU usage would spike from like 35% to 85%. I am hoping you will add a frame cap later, like in Conan. For now I capped it in Nvidia Experience at 60 fps, which I like personally to keep the game light and cool on the GPU.

I am looking forward to playing and seeing what more this game will have to offer! Just please keep Dune true to the Dune universe and keep the experience immersive, and no weird or real world activist cringe stuff, please!

[Meeka Moon]

Just to clear up the misinformation being spread by the political activists.

Face Dancers are not human. Humanoid in form, but not human.

They are vat grown genetically bio-engineered clones, like flesh golems, with no soul, no morals, no conscience, no emotions, no ethics, programmed to carry out their directive and Order 66 anyone they are ordered to Order 66. This makes them absolutely loyal, efficient and expendable killing machines and assassins for a post Butlerian Jihad era.

They were made by the Tleilaxu, who were not good people who did good things.

Face Dancers were servo class. Like bio-machines. They were completely sterile as such.

They are similar in ways to the T-1000 from Terminator 2.

They are some mean skin-walker, mimic, changling like hunter-killers who are absolutely loyal to their Masters with no free will or self of their own.

Their intellect is used to mimic emotions and personalities of the identities they steal. They do not have their own. This makes it easy for them to fool people, authentically pretend to be anyone with no conflict of opinions or emotions, and get close for stab stab time, which is the point.

They are meant to be a feared assassination instrument because of this.

Or if you prefer, the Face Dancers were control mechanisms, tools of oppression and terror devices used by those evil Fascists. They are the ultimate liars and deceivers with blind loyalty to their Masters... Unless they lost themselves to the human identity they were pretending to be.

Face Dancers are so much more interesting, run deeper, and have nothing to do with "trans", the mental illness of the lgbt or gender dysphoria or gender politiking. They have no feelings. They have no sense of self or identity. They have only one purpose. To hunt you and to spy on you or to kill you for their Masters. Their intellect is there to help them better optimize how to accomplish that and mimic humans to avoid suspicion. And to clone and copy humans. Like bio-computer calculations. This is where it gets into AI territory bordering on heresy.

They did have weaknesses. They could not copy people perfectly, and the Bene Gesserit could detect them because of their inhuman pheromones. And if they stayed in one persona too long, because they have no identity of their own, they would start to believe the person that they copied *was* their own identity. Not true self awareness, but a copy with no self to counter it.

They are also not a playable character option.

Golems would not get past the Bene Gesserit at the beginning.

I have played a Changling before in D&D in a horror setting, they are different but similar, and those alone were terrifying monsters when played well. They add a lot of psychological aspects and (good) drama to the story. Especially when they are secretly Zhentarim spies and assassins.

I found them fascinating... When played well... And not used as a tool or platform to inject real world woke rhetoric and politics and propaganda no one wants.

I have also played a Garou in Werewolf the Apocalypse... And am no stranger to body horror. I used a male werewolf form (my character was female) because I wanted to be the biggest ♥♥♥♥♥ in Crinos mode.

Neither of these are playable characters in Dune Awakening, either.

The options are Human. And Human is Male or Female.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

[WarStalkeR]

Publicado originalmente por Indigo_Sun:

Publicado originalmente por Rhoklaw:

Just ignore these Liberal fanatics. There is nothing in the DUNE books that makes any indication of gender fluidity or otherwise.

Face Dancers, Fish Speakers, Honoured Matres.

Except no Face Dancer ever became a woman with a beard. Because if such event ever happened, House of Tleilaxu would've sent them for 'reprocessing' at very least. Nor there were any obese, rainbow hair colored Fish Speakers. Nor there were any other modern "gender fluidity" with surgical scars in Honored Matres organization. Everything was strictly within confines of the rules of the Dune Universe set by Frank Herbert.

[Captain Worthy]

Publicado originalmente por WarStalkeR:

Publicado originalmente por Indigo_Sun:

Face Dancers, Fish Speakers, Honoured Matres.

Except no Face Dancer ever became a woman with a beard. Because if such event ever happened, House of Tleilaxu would've sent them for 'reprocessing' at very least. Nor there were any obese, rainbow hair colored Fish Speakers. Nor there were any other modern "gender fluidity" with surgical scars in Honored Matres organization. Everything was strictly within confines of the rules of the Dune Universe set by Frank Herbert.

I'm sure a Face Dancer could impersonate a woman with a beard too if that is part of their mission. I doubt any of the books have such events though, humans are pretty advanced in the Dune universe and I'd imagine such hormonal conditions would be easy to fix for them.

[DAWN OF THE DEAD]

Hoping this game will be "true" to lore is naive
Publisher will use IP to milk money
And for developers (like writers for example) Dune is tool to tell/make what they want. Because creating and getting funding for original/new IP is hard(especially there is no talent) so they have to use and make mockery of somebody else IP

Developers are definitely not fans of Dune. When you starting game in alternate timeline or multiverse you know its just lazy and excuse to do any bs they want.

This is a price of any franchise that gets any mainstream popularity

[Wolfen]

Funcome is a woke nightmare (just watch the x account of their community manager ranting about US-politics every couple weeks), you just have to ignore that to enjoy the game.
Make proper chars, search yourself a solid bubble, learn to ignore or endure the wicked.
Nothing will keep me away from this game as long as the gameplay is solid.
Remember its PvP, you can fight fight fight.

Publicado originalmente por jacobkosh:

Publicado originalmente por Araghast:

There is no DEI bs in the books as far as i know

lmao Frank Herbert explicitly thought women should be in charge because men are too stupid and violent, genius. Try actually reading the books before whining about made-up buzzwords.

While you're at it, also try losing some weight and getting a job.

You have no clue what DEI means kiddo.
The bene gesserit was the opposite of DEI.
And considering that paul wasn't born in the funcom timeline, the bene gesserit are defacto the shadow-leaders of the society.
So women are in power and they are as ruthless and brutal in their ways as the Harkonnen.

[(J)]

Publicado originalmente por Meeka Moon:

have nothing to do with "trans", the mental illness of the lgbt or gender dysphoria or gender politiking.

There. I have distilled that wall of text down to the only part you needed to know. Just another person whining about something that doesn't fit their narrow world view.

The trailer with Paul talking about this other timeline that he is not part of has been available for a long time now. This is not the canon universe. It is also a MMO and people of all walks of life are free to make their character how they see fit.

Funcom already made the game. The game is complete. Thousands are playing the beta right now. All of the features are there already. It isn't going to change two months from release.

[Luna]

Publicado originalmente por DiscoShark:

Publicado originalmente por Meeka Moon:

If what Mick Savage said is true, it will be very sad. I hope Funcom will listen and correct course. Hope has been shot down a lot... But I really hope they get this one right. :lovegrenade:

It's pretty clearly not a bug that you can have a male looking character with a female voice or a female with a beard in this game. There's no course correction that needs to be done here.

The only real world hatred being espoused here is coming from the people that take issue with the way other people choose to make their characters in a videogame. Frankly speaking it's none of your business if I want to roleplay muh dune as a purple haired, burly, feminine voiced, double d'd, man-bear-woman. If the way someone else chooses how to express themselves in game through character customization options bothers you - that's a YOU problem.

BS. If you wanted to play a character like that, you'd be breaking the immersion of the game. Not all of us want to see characters like that running around. Makes no sense.

[WarStalkeR]

Publicado originalmente por (J):

Funcom already made the game. The game is complete. Thousands are playing the beta right now. All of the features are there already. It isn't going to change two months from release.

Just as thousands played Concord open beta. And how it ended? If Funcom will try to cater to Concord audience, they will end up with Concord outcome. Simple as that.

[WarStalkeR]

Publicado originalmente por DiscoShark:

The only real world hatred being espoused here is coming from the people that take issue with the way other people choose to make their characters in a videogame. Frankly speaking it's none of your business if I want to roleplay muh dune as a purple haired, burly, feminine voiced, double d'd, man-bear-woman. If the way someone else chooses how to express themselves in game through character customization options bothers you - that's a YOU problem.

To keep immersion, Dune role-playing should be strictly within confines of the Dune universe rules set by Frank Herbert. There is no modern day nonsense in Dune. Deal with it.

[(J)]

Publicado originalmente por WarStalkeR:

Publicado originalmente por (J):

Funcom already made the game. The game is complete. Thousands are playing the beta right now. All of the features are there already. It isn't going to change two months from release.

Just as thousands played Concord open beta. And how it ended? If Funcom will try to cater to Concord audience, they will end up with Concord outcome. Simple as that.

This game has jack to do with Concord. It is a generic survival title in an alternative timeline. It isn't a bunch of premade "you must play one of these characters" games like Concord. Don't like an option? Don't use it. Won't impact your gameplay in any shape or form. 99% of the people you run across are going to have a helmet on. You will never see these features.

[WarStalkeR]

Publicado originalmente por (J):

Publicado originalmente por WarStalkeR:

Just as thousands played Concord open beta. And how it ended? If Funcom will try to cater to Concord audience, they will end up with Concord outcome. Simple as that.

This game has jack to do with Concord. It is a generic survival title in an alternative timeline. It isn't a bunch of premade "you must play one of these characters" games like Concord. Don't like an option? Don't use it. Won't impact your gameplay in any shape or form. 99% of the people you run across are going to have a helmet on. You will never see these features.

Perfect! Then there is no problem removing these options and replacing them with good old male and female options. After all its not a problem according to you.

[(J)]

Publicado originalmente por WarStalkeR:

Publicado originalmente por (J):

This game has jack to do with Concord. It is a generic survival title in an alternative timeline. It isn't a bunch of premade "you must play one of these characters" games like Concord. Don't like an option? Don't use it. Won't impact your gameplay in any shape or form. 99% of the people you run across are going to have a helmet on. You will never see these features.

Perfect! Then there is no problem removing these options and replacing them with good old male and female options. After all its not a problem according to you.

I know the US is in the middle of a bunch of non-sense turmoil over trans people. Just like you were scared of black people in the 50s and 60s. Gay people and video games in the 80s and so forth and so on.

This conversation has only been brought up in the chicken poop echo chamber that is Steam discussion. No one on the beta discord, regular discord, reddit, etc, etc has cared.

As has already been discussed. Funcom is out of Norway. One of the most progressive countries in the world. Their staff regularly make fun of our political non-sense (justly deserved). They are NOT going to turn tail and run from a couple of clown posts from Steam. In fact, they are probably laughing about it and ignoring it completely. Which is exactly what they should be doing.

[WarStalkeR]

Publicado originalmente por (J):

This conversation has only been brought up in the chicken poop echo chamber that is Steam discussion. No one on the beta discord, regular discord, reddit, etc, etc has cared.

None of those conversations also happened on Concord's discord, reddit & etc. But damn, how hard it flopped. It was so much fun seeing it flop that hard and waste millions.

[(J)]

Publicado originalmente por WarStalkeR:

Publicado originalmente por (J):

This conversation has only been brought up in the chicken poop echo chamber that is Steam discussion. No one on the beta discord, regular discord, reddit, etc, etc has cared.

None of those conversations also happened on Concord's discord, reddit & etc. But damn, how hard it flopped. It was so much fun seeing it flop that hard and waste millions.

Yeah, no ♥♥♥♥. Probably because "the woke" had nothing (or very little) to do with Concord's failure.

Concord struggled to stand out in a saturated market dominated by established titles like Overwatch and Apex Legends. Its lack of innovative gameplay mechanics and generic character roster made it difficult to attract and retain players.

Unlike many competitors that operate on a free-to-play model, Concord was launched as a full-priced title. This approach deterred potential players who were unwilling to invest in a new, unproven game when free alternatives were available.

An extensive eight-year development period resulted in a product that felt outdated upon release, failing to align with evolving market trends and player expectations.

The game suffered from a lack of effective marketing, leading to minimal pre-launch excitement and awareness among potential players.

Critics pointed out uninspired map design and forgettable characters, which contributed to a lackluster gaming experience.

[WarStalkeR]

Publicado originalmente por (J):

Yeah, no ♥♥♥♥. Probably because "the woke" had nothing (or very little) to do with Concord's failure.

Beside Concord there is also Forespoken, Veilguard, Avowed, Unknown 9: Awakening and many others to list. If "the woke" had nothing (or very little) to do with Concord's failure, all other games would've succeeded, but they flopped really hard.