Staying true to the lore.

[Meeka Moon]

I am very excited to get into Dune and explore the lore, the world, and learn more about it.

But then immersion is immediately broken when the default voice for a female is a man's voice? Male voices in the female character options?

BEARDS in the female character options? Seriously, WHAT?

I love beards on men. I have even said I wish more games would give men more options for masculine facial hair. I am happy this game does this... But your beards are bugged and showing up in the FEMALE options... Which may be funny now but will just cause issues later.

This must be a bug or something that was overlooked and needs fixed. It would be a funny bug maybe, but with all the terribly woke games, it scares me a little that crazy real world politics and insanity may be injected into the Dune universe, tainting the experience.

Maybe I am silly and this bug will be fixed quickly, in which case never mind me hehe.

I liked the set up, the lore with picking background. I hope this game leans more into the role play and story elements to make us feel like part of the Dune world!

I liked the character customization, despite the bugs with the male voices and beards for women, you might want to check men to make sure the female voices are not registering for males, or that will get really weird and awkward and confusing!

The character models look good, though, and the game seems to run well. The only oddity I had, was when alt-tabbed my GPU usage would spike from like 35% to 85%. I am hoping you will add a frame cap later, like in Conan. For now I capped it in Nvidia Experience at 60 fps, which I like personally to keep the game light and cool on the GPU.

I am looking forward to playing and seeing what more this game will have to offer! Just please keep Dune true to the Dune universe and keep the experience immersive, and no weird or real world activist cringe stuff, please!

[Meeka Moon]

That is a lot of wild mental gymnastics, projecting, inserting and reaching, but woke pronouns and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and the lgbt still do not exist in Dune.

Neither do modern day real world politics and gender politics.

The Butlerian Jihad started when a robot aborted a pregnant woman's healthy baby because it "served no purpose". AI is a much bigger issue, and much more relevant to today, anyways. That is something to get angry (in world) over. And house politics are always a thing. Emperor / Space Guild / Noble Houses. That is what we care about. Dune politics.

Dune also has it's own freaks and mutants, which go far beyond anything human. I did not see any of those in the character creator, though. No fish speakers or guild navigators.

If you read it you would know that...

We want escapism from real world insanity. We just want a good, normal game that is respectful of the content and fans (both of Dune and Funcom). That is the main point of this thread.

Most people have been mature and respectful about it and sharing opinions in a thoughtful and considerate manner. What you post and how you treat others is a reflection of you, more than them.

Please learn to set aside your real world hatred and do not bring it into game. The audience is vast and multi-cultural. We have very different lives and real world opinions. But we all share interest in Dune. That is the common ground.

We want to visit someplace new and refreshing and take a break from having to deal with the crazy and hostility and threats we face in the real world.

If what Mick Savage said is true, it will be very sad. I hope Funcom will listen and correct course. Hope has been shot down a lot... But I really hope they get this one right.

[Talvrae]

Publicado originalmente por Captain Worthy:

Publicado originalmente por Talvrae:

Woke is a word invented by African American to signify being awake to social inequalities, it has nothing to do with Soviet subversion.

It might have originally been invented by them and used in that context but you and I both know that the use and meaning of words changes over time. These days "woke" contains such things as Intersectionality, DEI policies, and so on.

And these did not exist as an ideology until the 1980's when Marxist academia(under the Cold War era Soviet subversion) came up with them.

No, the truth is your just a biggot.
By the way Dune is full of what you people call DEI on the shape of many bad asses women combatants regularly defeating trained male warriors.

[DiscoShark]

Publicado originalmente por Meeka Moon:

If what Mick Savage said is true, it will be very sad. I hope Funcom will listen and correct course. Hope has been shot down a lot... But I really hope they get this one right. :lovegrenade:

It's pretty clearly not a bug that you can have a male looking character with a female voice or a female with a beard in this game. There's no course correction that needs to be done here.

The only real world hatred being espoused here is coming from the people that take issue with the way other people choose to make their characters in a videogame. Frankly speaking it's none of your business if I want to roleplay muh dune as a purple haired, burly, feminine voiced, double d'd, man-bear-woman. If the way someone else chooses how to express themselves in game through character customization options bothers you - that's a YOU problem.

[LONELY_jerboa_RU]

Frank Herbert wrote that there were no such people in Dune? However, if he wrote it, then one can understand the dissatisfaction of people interested in this game that beards are possible for women, because these people will probably see such female characters in this game.

Joel said that he loves Frank's Dune, so I trust him in the question I asked at the beginning of the message and I would like to know why the topics about beards are raised here.

[Rhoklaw]

Just ignore these Liberal fanatics. There is nothing in the DUNE books that makes any indication of gender fluidity or otherwise.

[Indigo_Sun]

Publicado originalmente por Rhoklaw:

Just ignore these Liberal fanatics. There is nothing in the DUNE books that makes any indication of gender fluidity or otherwise.

Face Dancers, Fish Speakers, Honoured Matres.

[Captain Worthy]

Publicado originalmente por Talvrae:

Publicado originalmente por Captain Worthy:

It might have originally been invented by them and used in that context but you and I both know that the use and meaning of words changes over time. These days "woke" contains such things as Intersectionality, DEI policies, and so on.

And these did not exist as an ideology until the 1980's when Marxist academia(under the Cold War era Soviet subversion) came up with them.

No, the truth is your just a biggot.
By the way Dune is full of what you people call DEI on the shape of many bad asses women combatants regularly defeating trained male warriors.

What, referring to actual history is what makes me a bigot? That's not how it works buddy.

DEI also has nothing to do with bad ass female combatants defeating trained male warriors, our world has many myths of female warriors and warrior goddesses going back in time for thousands of years.

Dune came out in 1965 as I already stated before, DEI is a much more modern invention. What you're actually trying to say is that Dune had themes of female empowerment and feminism. But these would have similarly been part of the earlier waves of feminism, not the modern one. The writer himself was conservative, with libertarian views.

[Talvrae]

Publicado originalmente por Captain Worthy:

Publicado originalmente por Talvrae:

No, the truth is your just a biggot.
By the way Dune is full of what you people call DEI on the shape of many bad asses women combatants regularly defeating trained male warriors.

What, referring to actual history is what makes me a bigot? That's not how it works buddy.

DEI also has nothing to do with bad ass female combatants defeating trained male warriors, our world has many myths of female warriors and warrior goddesses going back in time for thousands of years.

Dune came out in 1965 as I already stated before, DEI is a much more modern invention. What you're actually trying to say is that Dune had themes of female empowerment and feminism. But these would have similarly been part of the earlier waves of feminism, not the modern one. The writer himself was conservative, with libertarian views.

You're not referring to history, you're referring to conspiracy theory to justify hating people who don,t conform to what you believe they should be.

[Lancenig]

Publicado originalmente por jacobkosh:

Publicado originalmente por Araghast:

There is no DEI bs in the books as far as i know

lmao Frank Herbert explicitly thought women should be in charge because men are too stupid and violent, genius. Try actually reading the books before whining about made-up buzzwords.

While you're at it, also try losing some weight and getting a job.

I think Frank was more expressing the differences between the roles....I never got the impression he himself believed "women is better."
I also don't see the connection here to DEI even if that was Franks belief. How does him believing female would rule better = DEI exactly?
Cause that's not DEI...that's exclusion of men to service women.

It's certainly interesting to think about. Good topic of discussion either way.

[Rhoklaw]

Publicado originalmente por Indigo_Sun:

Publicado originalmente por Rhoklaw:

Just ignore these Liberal fanatics. There is nothing in the DUNE books that makes any indication of gender fluidity or otherwise.

Face Dancers, Fish Speakers, Honoured Matres.

Face Dancers are genetically bred, not a scientific impossibility like our real world politics. No dude in the real world can will himself into the form of a woman. While Hermaphrodites do in fact exist, they are so rare that it is far from a normal occurrence and no, they too are incapable of changing their sex at will.

Fish Speakers are basically the same as Amazons or Wonder Woman. This has nothing to do with gender fluidity.

Honoured Matres are again, just powerful women. This has nothing to do with gender fluidity or otherwise.

[Captain Worthy]

Publicado originalmente por Talvrae:

Publicado originalmente por Captain Worthy:

What, referring to actual history is what makes me a bigot? That's not how it works buddy.

DEI also has nothing to do with bad ass female combatants defeating trained male warriors, our world has many myths of female warriors and warrior goddesses going back in time for thousands of years.

Dune came out in 1965 as I already stated before, DEI is a much more modern invention. What you're actually trying to say is that Dune had themes of female empowerment and feminism. But these would have similarly been part of the earlier waves of feminism, not the modern one. The writer himself was conservative, with libertarian views.

You're not referring to history, you're referring to conspiracy theory to justify hating people who don,t conform to what you believe they should be.

What on earth are you on about? What conspiracy theory do you even mean?

[(J)]

Publicado originalmente por Araghast:

There is no DEI bs in the books as far as i know, so any current day BS like in Veilguard violates the setting and takes you out of the experience.If you want to make game based on current day please do so dont ruin experience fpr people who want to explore Dune world in video game. Its multiplayer experience, i dont want to see women with beards running around.
Respect the original books and lore, DEI crowd are minority in gamin community with daily shrinking relevance.

Unless you are sitting around RPing you aren't going to see any details on another player. Just a still-suit and a helmet before you start getting shot in the face.

[Subsonic]

Publicado originalmente por Rhoklaw:

Just ignore these Liberal fanatics. There is nothing in the DUNE books that makes any indication of gender fluidity or otherwise.

So wrong but said with such conviction. This is how lies and misinformation change perspective. Read the books again...don't just watch the 1984 movie or play some game and think you know the material. There's way more to Dune then your sad little modern day political nonsense.

[Rhoklaw]

Publicado originalmente por Subsonic:

Publicado originalmente por Rhoklaw:

Just ignore these Liberal fanatics. There is nothing in the DUNE books that makes any indication of gender fluidity or otherwise.

So wrong but said with such conviction. This is how lies and misinformation change perspective. Read the books again...don't just watch the 1984 movie or play some game and think you know the material. There's way more to Dune then your sad little modern day political nonsense.

Try scrolling up and reading my response to the so called gender fluid claims. They don't exist and this ♥♥♥♥ is all in your head. You think gender fluidity exists in Dune, but it doesn't. Try again.

[Rhoklaw]

Publicado originalmente por Captain Worthy:

Publicado originalmente por Talvrae:

You're not referring to history, you're referring to conspiracy theory to justify hating people who don,t conform to what you believe they should be.

What on earth are you on about? What conspiracy theory do you even mean?

I dont think they even know what they are talking about.