Another Scummy Move in Game Industry ?

[Lisan al-Gaib]

Delayed release means the game is not ready and its most likely going to flop since the industry rn is full of flops except a solo guy that creates Schedule 1. I had hopes for it but the devs are using the same scummy move as any other AA and AAA studio, delay as much as you can then still release a unoptimized trash and wait 2 years to get to the 1.0v. This is just a guess of mine, agree or not, but giving the state of the industry I think we can all agree this is not good and might actually flop at release..

EDIT:
I have made this post to express my concern about the current status of the gaming industry. I do not have any direct hate against the studio that is developing this game since they have not released any big trash on the market yet. I have made this post to discuss the current situation about this industry and the fact that nowdays we are encountering this type of delay so often we can't really trust if at the end of the road it was a good decision or not.
I have mentioned before that big AAA companies did the same thing and all they have delivered was a big SLOP and trash. Giving the fact that this is going to be a MMORPG, IN MY OPINION, I don't really trust that they will deliver a good product for us, the gamers/customers. I really think that they will mess it up by being a mediocre product at best. I really hope I am wrong since I love Dune universe. I believe that only time will tell and at the end of the day when we start playing the game we will know for sure.

[De Vilks]

Dune sounds really a lot more sophisticated game than Schedule 1. With no offense to the Schedule 1, there is a beauty in the simplicity.

[Lisan al-Gaib]

Originally posted by De Vilks:

Dune sounds really a lot more sophisticated game than Schedule 1. With no offense to the Schedule 1, there is a beauty in the simplicity.

Not about that man, just a small example how a solo guy can deliver game for the millions to buy and enjoy. The gaming industry rn is down bad. Just since last november we had 3 huge AAA games that flopped. Hundreds of millions of USD poured into it just to be trash, even with delays and all that. Concorde, Star Wars Outlaw, AC Shadow. 3 big flops and trash games.
I'm just saying, giving the current position of the market and what we are getting lately, with this delay, I think the game will not be great. Will be far from great. I hope not, I really hope it will not be like that but most likely it will.

[功夫kappa]

I completely agree with you.

you see it in almost every genre.

another example is how a game like Erenshor (a single player simulated MMO made by one guy) offers more content, QOL, and advencement of the "oldschool" mmo genre than the current big titles Pantheon and Monsters & Memories.

Large companies are consistently failing to innovate or provide experiences that players are asking for.

there is far too large a proponent of toxic gamers who insist on making every game a competitive environment. there are not enough games focusing on cooperation against a well designed set of game mechanics. Instead, corporate considerations push every AAA game to be some derivative of COD or Fortnite.

there is too much reliance on RNG as a substitute for difficulty.

and so far, everything i've seen on D:A suggests this game is no different.

[UilliamNebel]

Originally posted by Lisan al-Gaib:

Delayed release means the game is not ready and its most likely going to flop since the industry rn is full of flops except a solo guy that creates Schedule 1. I had hopes for it but the devs are using the same scummy move as any other AA and AAA studio, delay as much as you can then still release a unoptimized trash and wait 2 years to get to the 1.0v. This is just a guess of mine, agree or not, but giving the state of the industry I think we can all agree this is not good and might actually flop at release..

Go out, touch grass, feel the air in your lungs as you get grounded back to reality friend.

No really, get a hold of your feelings, and stop finding moral fault in people for making a game and taking three weeks to polish it more to their standard they'ed like to see it released at. The issue here, is you, it is only you, and no matter how many others with a you issue chime in, it is still all you. Pre-purchased the game, I am a bit ah well with the delay, but, well, I wear big boy pants. I read the announcement, I practiced some deferred gratification, a key adulting skill, to see that it was likely for the best. Just saying, it isn't hard to do.

[Manchine]

Originally posted by Lisan al-Gaib:

Delayed release means the game is not ready and its most likely going to flop since the industry rn is full of flops except a solo guy that creates Schedule 1. I had hopes for it but the devs are using the same scummy move as any other AA and AAA studio, delay as much as you can then still release a unoptimized trash and wait 2 years to get to the 1.0v. This is just a guess of mine, agree or not, but giving the state of the industry I think we can all agree this is not good and might actually flop at release..

This is for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ccGjar4Es

[DjohDjeen]

OP is 100% buying this game...

[Lisan al-Gaib]

The level of personal attacks and making fun of me as a person for sharing an opinion is kinda crazy. Clearly I will still listen to those that start their response like that. Clearly those are the people that you can have a conversation with.

[UilliamNebel]

Originally posted by Lisan al-Gaib:

The level of personal attacks and making fun of me as a person for sharing an opinion is kinda crazy. Clearly I will still listen to those that start their response like that. Clearly those are the people that you can have a conversation with. :piglaugh:

Yet... you started off calling other's scummy.

[Lisan al-Gaib]

Originally posted by UilliamNebel:

Originally posted by Lisan al-Gaib:

The level of personal attacks and making fun of me as a person for sharing an opinion is kinda crazy. Clearly I will still listen to those that start their response like that. Clearly those are the people that you can have a conversation with.

Yet... you started off calling other's scummy.

Yet... I called a move that is made by almost every big studio in the industry scummy. Then I explained why. Talking about a studio and the industry.... Not a person.... Yet... Read carefully next time.

[Captain Worthy]

How is delay a scummy move when it is being done to avoid releasing a game in a state where it's crashing too much or has other blocker level bugs like that?

Some games have even managed to damage people's hardware due to releasing too early.

Of course a delay could be done for actual scummy reasons too but that's not always the case. I would wait out until the actual launch before judging the devs and calling the game trash.

[Lisan al-Gaib]

Originally posted by Captain Worthy:

How is delay a scummy move when it is being done to avoid releasing a game in a state where it's crashing too much or has other blocker level bugs like that?

Some games have even managed to damage people's hardware due to releasing too early.

Of course a delay could be done for actual scummy reasons too but that's not always the case. I would wait out until the actual launch before judging the devs and calling the game trash.

I understand what you are saying. And I agree with that. Even tho I still want to sustain my opinion. It's not like this will be bad, but giving the current situation of the game industry right now, it might be the case that this game will disappoint OR it will be done the right way like other games have done it in the past such as Black Myth Wukong, God of War, Baldur's Gate 3 and so on. But this cases are rare in my opinion.

[thecelt]

If you are like me and pre-purchased then we both are relying on the 2 hour / 2 week rule for refunds with Steam. My first concern is accuracy with the lore Arakkis is a desert planet so there are no lush forests, bodies of water, or one drop of rain.

Funcom already does a pretty good job with desert landscapes in Conan Exiles and there is enough lore in the books to recreate Dune correctly so that is my number one concern. If I start watching some videos on the first day and see a lake or river I will refund the game.

For me a bad game would not be lore accurate, be overly buggy as all releases for PC do have some bug issues at the start. Or if Funcom doesn't balance out the PVP/PVE aspects so everyone can enjoy playing.

I bought in early because I love the books and I wanted a terrarium for my muad-dib.

I imagine the good, bad, and ugly will be online to watch in the first day.

[Subsonic]

Originally posted by Lisan al-Gaib:

The level of personal attacks and making fun of me as a person for sharing an opinion is kinda crazy. Clearly I will still listen to those that start their response like that. Clearly those are the people that you can have a conversation with. :piglaugh:

If you weren't a hypocrite in your statements then maybe you'd get better responses. But you came in swinging, got punched back, now you're crying. You are not the Lisan al-Gaib, just another pretender.

[De Vilks]

Dune is something new on the market, I consider it as a similar game to the Once Human, which just explored new ideas by putting several old ones together with a blend of speck special spice. Of course it will make for a bumpy development process where the game will look for its true identity, whenever it wants to be more of pvp, or more of pve, or trade and base building. I think its what they are trying to balance out to figure out a way to appeal to wider audience. I prefer them to give 2 more thoughts about what they want to focus on, and how not to ruin first impression, than give something completely under cooked, where you don't have even a single element of the game tempting enough to hold any gamer demographics for a longer time.

I kinda want them to succeed because I just love Dune universe. It's not like I'm without worries, but I don't think delayed release is a scummy move. I think its worse to give something bad too early, for a full price, as a complete product. It's just a few weeks extra.

[PrimusNephilim]

Originally posted by 功夫kappa:

Large companies are consistently failing to innovate or provide experiences that players are asking for.

This right here nails it. The large companies play it all too safe while the bloated executive overhead get their payday.