Ranged energy weapons? Really?

[Porg Life]

As someone that has read the books I can only say...
WTF IS THIS S*T? Ranged and Energy weapons in a Dune game? Don't get me wrong, that's one way to handle PVP, it will be fun to kill the whole server.

And dont get me started on the no stillsuits and sleeveless clothings...

[~ Fabulous ~]

maybe the safety is off and when you shoot you get an atomic explosion in your face then proceed to death screen lol

[Porg Life]

Originally posted by ~ Fabulous ~:

maybe the safety is off and when you shoot you get an atomic explosion in your face then proceed to death screen lol

That's one fast way to get a multikill

[ExplosiveBolts]

This is apparently one of the things they changed, there is no nuke explosion when shooting people with a shield.

[James009]

Originally posted by ExplosiveBolts:

This is apparently one of the things they changed, there is no nuke explosion when shooting people with a shield.

Yeah, they'd almost have to change this for a game design. That lore aspect just wouldn't work in an actual game.

[TheSietch]

No sub-nuclear explosions I’m afraid. All lasguns refuse to fire if pointed at a shield, according to the creative director at Funcom. It’s supposed to be a CHOAM safety feature in the lore.

[Cvelus]

Originally posted by TheSietch:

No sub-nuclear explosions I’m afraid. All lasguns refuse to fire if pointed at a shield, according to the creative director at Funcom. It’s supposed to be a CHOAM safety feature in the lore.

Hope at least that is how it works.

Shields and lasguns relation, with shields bringing in worms and shields making ballisitc weapons obsolete are ale big part of lor,e and I was really baffled when it seemed like they stated they do not work like in lore.

[VDmitry]

Originally posted by Porg Life:

As someone that has read the books I can only say...
WTF IS THIS S*T? Ranged and Energy weapons in a Dune game? Don't get me wrong, that's one way to handle PVP, it will be fun to kill the whole server.

And dont get me started on the no stillsuits and sleeveless clothings...

Have you seen Dune 2 movie already? They do the same it seems. I couldn't manage more than 50% of the film.

[Cvelus]

Originally posted by VDmitry:

Originally posted by Porg Life:

As someone that has read the books I can only say...
WTF IS THIS S*T? Ranged and Energy weapons in a Dune game? Don't get me wrong, that's one way to handle PVP, it will be fun to kill the whole server.

And dont get me started on the no stillsuits and sleeveless clothings...

Have you seen Dune 2 movie already? They do the same it seems. I couldn't manage more than 50% of the film.

Didn't watch it yet. So, stillsuits in new one do not exist, range weapons galore?

[SecretDragonSludge (Drugs)]

Originally posted by Cvelus:

Originally posted by VDmitry:

Have you seen Dune 2 movie already? They do the same it seems. I couldn't manage more than 50% of the film.

Didn't watch it yet. So, stillsuits in new one do not exist, range weapons galore?

The still suits still exist the main characters are wearing them the entire time they are in the desert idk wtf that guy is smoking he probably just never read any book past Dune and is one of the people who think Paul is a hero so he's mad the film leaned more into the books themes of anti-colonialsim and how messianism is bad for humanity. The movie does this because they didn't wanna deal with how the general population doesn't have media literacy, and in this day and age the culture warriors will make you never hear the end of it.

A lot of people didn't understand this when the book first released which is why Frank wrote more books that beat you over the head with the authors anti-authoritarian beliefs. Even if what Paul and then Leto II do eventually lead to a better future for humanity it is still horrific, and it questions if the ends do justify the means. Leto II im God Emperor of Dune spends like half the book explaining that he's doing what he's doing so that humans never trust charismatic leaders ever again. I ignore all the stuff written by Brian Herbert since they turn the story into star wars meets terminator and are bad.

The shields are used throughout the film, just not in the open desert where it's explained that shields attract sandworms. I think it's a better adaptation than the previous attempts with the 80s film and the sci-fi series. Some of the changes made sense like a compressed timeline and what they did with Alia (she's still in it) because the last two times her child version was adapted were laughable.

I'm going to see it a second time but imo it's the best scifi film of the past couple decades.

[Cvelus]

Originally posted by The Sludge is Life:

Originally posted by Cvelus:

Didn't watch it yet. So, stillsuits in new one do not exist, range weapons galore?

The still suits still exist the main characters are wearing them the entire time they are in the desert idk wtf that guy is smoking he probably just never read any book past Dune and is one of the people who think Paul is a hero so he's mad the film leaned more into the books themes of anti-colonialsim and how messianism is bad for humanity. The movie does this because they didn't wanna deal with how the general population doesn't have media literacy, and in this day and age the culture warriors will make you never hear the end of it.

A lot of people didn't understand this when the book first released which is why Frank wrote more books that beat you over the head with the authors anti-authoritarian beliefs. Even if what Paul and then Leto II do eventually lead to a better future for humanity it is still horrific, and it questions if the ends do justify the means. Leto II im God Emperor of Dune spends like half the book explaining that he's doing what he's doing so that humans never trust charismatic leaders ever again. I ignore all the stuff written by Brian Herbert since they turn the story into star wars meets terminator and are bad.

The shields are used throughout the film, just not in the open desert where it's explained that shields attract sandworms. I think it's a better adaptation than the previous attempts with the 80s film and the sci-fi series. Some of the changes made sense like a compressed timeline and what they did with Alia (she's still in it) because the last two times her child version was adapted were laughable.

I'm going to see it a second time but imo it's the best scifi film of the past couple decades.

I have all the original books by Frank, whole Paul's rise and fall were amazing story first time I read them.
Whole theme of abomination of Alia is also a great example of innocent rulers falling down and becoming monsters by their predecessors and their decisions.

I was just interested from movie and game perspective, because I am becoming very tired of Hollywood and gaming industry bastardizing good concepts and losing a lot in "translation" to game or big screen.

[markelphoenix]

They address this. They actually got permission from the Herbert Estate to modify this alternate universe to make this work. Effectively, the lore change is in this alt-universe, the laser weapons are installed with safeties that deactivate when targeting shields (given that the explosion could happen either at the shield or at the firing weapon, according to lore).

This allows for staying true to the core of the lore in regards to how the shield and lasers work, as well as making a small but reasonable change that opens up game play.

[SecretDragonSludge (Drugs)]

Originally posted by Cvelus:

Originally posted by The Sludge is Life:

The still suits still exist the main characters are wearing them the entire time they are in the desert idk wtf that guy is smoking he probably just never read any book past Dune and is one of the people who think Paul is a hero so he's mad the film leaned more into the books themes of anti-colonialsim and how messianism is bad for humanity. The movie does this because they didn't wanna deal with how the general population doesn't have media literacy, and in this day and age the culture warriors will make you never hear the end of it.

A lot of people didn't understand this when the book first released which is why Frank wrote more books that beat you over the head with the authors anti-authoritarian beliefs. Even if what Paul and then Leto II do eventually lead to a better future for humanity it is still horrific, and it questions if the ends do justify the means. Leto II im God Emperor of Dune spends like half the book explaining that he's doing what he's doing so that humans never trust charismatic leaders ever again. I ignore all the stuff written by Brian Herbert since they turn the story into star wars meets terminator and are bad.

The shields are used throughout the film, just not in the open desert where it's explained that shields attract sandworms. I think it's a better adaptation than the previous attempts with the 80s film and the sci-fi series. Some of the changes made sense like a compressed timeline and what they did with Alia (she's still in it) because the last two times her child version was adapted were laughable.

I'm going to see it a second time but imo it's the best scifi film of the past couple decades.

I have all the original books by Frank, whole Paul's rise and fall were amazing story first time I read them.
Whole theme of abomination of Alia is also a great example of innocent rulers falling down and becoming monsters by their predecessors and their decisions.

I was just interested from movie and game perspective, because I am becoming very tired of Hollywood and gaming industry bastardizing good concepts and losing a lot in "translation" to game or big screen.

The changes imo are fine. Most of what is changed is mostly because film is contained with running time and to drive home the themes of the books. Imo the changes are mostly minor with two major ones that still work really well.

[ULTRA]

Originally posted by markelphoenix:

They address this. They actually got permission from the Herbert Estate to modify this alternate universe to make this work. Effectively, the lore change is in this alt-universe, the laser weapons are installed with safeties that deactivate when targeting shields (given that the explosion could happen either at the shield or at the firing weapon, according to lore).

This allows for staying true to the core of the lore in regards to how the shield and lasers work, as well as making a small but reasonable change that opens up game play.

So it's a third (or fourth now, ♥♥♥♥ I don't know) universe where it's also distinct from the Villeneuve movies where they could use energy weapons because everyone had to have their shields off no matter where they were because it would disturb the worms.

[Zugs]

Originally posted by TheSietch:

No sub-nuclear explosions I’m afraid. All lasguns refuse to fire if pointed at a shield, according to the creative director at Funcom. It’s supposed to be a CHOAM safety feature in the lore.

This seems like a good solution. Just like the books most men will have the shield so it seems like lasers wont be very useful against individuals. Vehicles... that's another thing.

[NrSeven]

Originally posted by Porg Life:

As someone that has read the books I can only say...
WTF IS THIS S*T? Ranged and Energy weapons in a Dune game? Don't get me wrong, that's one way to handle PVP, it will be fun to kill the whole server.

And dont get me started on the no stillsuits and sleeveless clothings...

They asked Frank Herberts estate and they allowed it so it would fit the game more, this is more of a 'alternate universe' dune. Just look at the baseline gameplay mechanics. The genre mix fits the setting imo. (I'm a pretty big Dune fan myself.)