How does anyone find enjoyment in randomly teleporting to a ship and repeatedly killing someone for no loot?

[AlbinoFrog]

I was chilling by a port after selling and was deciding what voyage I wanted to do next. Nobody was on the island with me. No ships were nearby. No rowboat in sight. Suddenly 2 people appeared below deck on my sloop and just repeatedly killed me without even attempting to sink it. After 4 or 5 deaths I just scuttled and moved on. But like, why? What could possibly be fun in that? It's a waste of everyone's time for nothing. It's as pathetic as using aimbot in an fps. Do players like this genuinely find enjoyment by taking all of the agency out of the game and just playing on baby mode?

[Fail]

Below the deck?
Sounds like you had tuckers.

[sova]

idk man i profesnl plajer on this game but i killed a hacker in 300 time

[Keyrala]

Controller has a built in aimb... i mean aim assist. If someone is going to tuck and they good at it they will get rid of the rowboat they used to board you.
That's not wasting their time they actually having fun.

It is indeed very fun to hide in someone else's ship and listen to their convos, you should try it some time.

[AlbinoFrog]

Originally posted by Fail:

Below the deck?
Sounds like you had tuckers.

Tuckers that waited for me to get to port and sell all of my loot before ganking me? I doubt it.

[Keyrala]

Originally posted by AlbinoFrog:

Originally posted by Fail:

Below the deck?
Sounds like you had tuckers.

Tuckers that waited for me to get to port and sell all of my loot before ganking me? I doubt it.

That's funny i watch streamers that can be hiding in someone's ship for 2 hours just for those funny last 2 minutes it takes to kill and sell everything when their victims are by the outpost.

[FirestormXL]

Just logged in after not playing for a year. Saw a guy fly to our ship, murdered us repeatedly for the next 15 minutes. Why is this ♥♥♥♥ allowed?

[Raft]

Originally posted by FirestormXL:

Just logged in after not playing for a year. Saw a guy fly to our ship, murdered us repeatedly for the next 15 minutes. Why is this ♥♥♥♥ allowed?

When playing Sea of Thieves, always record your gameplay. Helps to spot the things you've missed earlier. You can use this video to think of better moves next time something similar happens.
- Or at least, start recording when u need to pvp.
- Use the Steam background recorder or use Streamlabs OBS or Nvidia or whatever u like.

If anyone spawncamps you without intention to sink ur ship for 5+ mins (i.e. no fire, no holes, or they keep bailing water), please upload the video and send a link of the video to Rare via a support ticket.
- Youtube (visibility: unlisted) or Streamable (file size: 150 mb if free account)
- Support ticket can be created at https://support.seaofthieves.com/requests/new

I've reported players who did this (spawncamp without intention to sink my ship). Most reports resulted in temporary bans. At least 1 report resulted in a permanent ban.

When spawncamped, feel free to use the opportunity to practice optimizing your TDM skills. Or scuttle ur ship to change servers if you want to just move on. I prefer to report them - so they don't repeat the same behaviour against others.

[Fail]

Originally posted by AlbinoFrog:

Originally posted by Fail:

Below the deck?
Sounds like you had tuckers.

Tuckers that waited for me to get to port and sell all of my loot before ganking me? I doubt it.

Not all tuckers are smart sir

[Raft]

Following what Fail said, it's possible that the tuckers tucked for too long in an area of the ship where they can't see the surroundings of ur ship.

So they didn't realize you were at an outpost selling ur loot.

When they realized they were too late, they killed your pirate repeatedly out of frustration.

You can take the win and just move on. Or refer to my comment above (#7 in this thread).

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Also as Keyrala said, some tuckers enjoy being unseen for a long time and have no interest in ur loot.

[FirestormXL]

Originally posted by Raft:

If anyone spawncamps you without intention to sink ur ship for 5+ mins (i.e. no fire, no holes, or they keep bailing water), please upload the video and send a link of the video to Rare via a support ticket.
- Youtube (visibility: unlisted) or Streamable (file size: 150 mb if free account)
- Support ticket can be created at https://support.seaofthieves.com/requests/new

I've reported players who did this (spawncamp without intention to sink my ship). Most reports resulted in temporary bans. At least 1 report resulted in a permanent ban.

Hey, thanks for the advice... but I have to say, with all due respect, I think the advice is complete crap.

See. that is a heck of a lot of effort for me to perform for something that:

1. Should not be occurring to begins with. There are several markers that the server could pick up on that would CLEARLY indicate hacking AND harassment of a player (does holding my head metaphorically in the red sea toilet for 20 minutes count as harassment? seems like too harsh a word, I dunno what it is called but it sure wasn't fun).

and

2. Ultimately resulted in... zero curtailing of the behavior.

A temporary ban, a gentle slap on the wrist for someone willfully doing something malicious to ruin someone else's good time is not the same thing as little Timmy downloading a speedhack to go and finish quests and obtain treasure faster.

I'll explain you why. Because me, a spending player is now done with this game. I will not be spending my money in the storefront anymore. I have played for only about a year and have spent a bout a $150 in this game, I was eyeballing those owl pets because I am a sucker for such things, they look cool, I was likely going to buy one within the next couple months when me and my brother play, maybe a little tuxedo for him like I got for the fox and cat. But now I wont. There you go, money lost due to not taking care of the obvious issue. I'll spend it and my time with someone who actually wants and values it.

[Raft]

Originally posted by FirestormXL:

Originally posted by Raft:

If anyone spawncamps you without intention to sink ur ship for 5+ mins (i.e. no fire, no holes, or they keep bailing water), please upload the video and send a link of the video to Rare via a support ticket.
- Youtube (visibility: unlisted) or Streamable (file size: 150 mb if free account)
- Support ticket can be created at https://support.seaofthieves.com/requests/new

I've reported players who did this (spawncamp without intention to sink my ship). Most reports resulted in temporary bans. At least 1 report resulted in a permanent ban.

Hey, thanks for the advice... but I have to say, with all due respect, I think the advice is complete crap.

See. that is a heck of a lot of effort for me to perform for something that:

1. Should not be occurring to begins with. There are several markers that the server could pick up on that would CLEARLY indicate hacking AND harassment of a player (does holding my head metaphorically in the red sea toilet for 20 minutes count as harassment? seems like too harsh a word, I dunno what it is called but it sure wasn't fun).
...

What are the "several markers that the server could pick up on that would CLEARLY indicate hacking AND harassment of a player"?

I'm thinking:

If ( ship undamaged
AND pirate is killed repeatedly
AND spawncamp timer > 5 mins)
then
kick pirate killer with toxicbeard error - timeout 5 minutes.

But I think the game's programming/infrastructure isn't clean/optimized enough to do it. That's why they still ask for video evidence.

Originally posted by FirestormXL:

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2. Ultimately resulted in... zero curtailing of the behavior.

A temporary ban, a gentle slap on the wrist for someone willfully doing something malicious to ruin someone else's good time is not the same thing as little Timmy downloading a speedhack to go and finish quests and obtain treasure faster.

Anyone who repeats this offense 3x will be permanently banned.

What do you suggest then? I think imposing a permanent ban on a 1st time offender who isn't aware of this rule would be too much.

Originally posted by FirestormXL:

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I'll explain you why. Because me, a spending player is now done with this game. I will not be spending my money in the storefront anymore. I have played for only about a year and have spent a bout a $150 in this game, I was eyeballing those owl pets because I am a sucker for such things, they look cool, I was likely going to buy one within the next couple months when me and my brother play, maybe a little tuxedo for him like I got for the fox and cat. But now I wont. There you go, money lost due to not taking care of the obvious issue. I'll spend it and my time with someone who actually wants and values it.

All games have players with different skills and attitudes. Encountering players with bad attitude who get around the rules - is guaranteed.

When you have zero tolerance for toxicity, play Safer Seas. In Safer Seas, you can experience most of the PvE gameplay experience without the risk of fighting other player-crewed ships. This mode is better for chill families with young kids. You can play with your brother and have pets on your boat as well. Since Dec 2024, the gold progression rate in Safer Seas is the same as High Seas.

When your risk appetite is larger, you can play High Seas - for emissary flag bonuses, for progressing reputation beyond level 25, for contested events/voyages, for sovereigns, captaincy, hourglass, for training in handling toxicity, etc.

[FirestormXL]

Originally posted by Raft:

When you have zero tolerance for toxicity, play Safer Seas. In Safer Seas, you can experience most of the PvE gameplay experience without the risk of fighting other player-crewed ships. This mode is better for chill families with young kids. You can play with your brother and have pets on your boat as well. Since Dec 2024, the gold progression rate in Safer Seas is the same as High Seas.

When your risk appetite is larger, you can play High Seas - for emissary flag bonuses, for progressing reputation beyond level 25, for contested events/voyages, for sovereigns, captaincy, hourglass, for training in handling toxicity, etc.

I see, I was giving you more time than you are worth.

"When you have zero tolerance for hackers." Not Toxicity.

If you can't tell the difference between the two... I now realize I was speaking to someone inferior, my words are beyond your capacity of comprehension. I am sorry to have confused you. I was responding to you as an equal. Goodbye, I will not be responding to any more of your posts because you are beneath my concern.

[Raft]

Originally posted by FirestormXL:

Originally posted by Raft:

When you have zero tolerance for toxicity, play Safer Seas. In Safer Seas, you can experience most of the PvE gameplay experience without the risk of fighting other player-crewed ships. This mode is better for chill families with young kids. You can play with your brother and have pets on your boat as well. Since Dec 2024, the gold progression rate in Safer Seas is the same as High Seas.

When your risk appetite is larger, you can play High Seas - for emissary flag bonuses, for progressing reputation beyond level 25, for contested events/voyages, for sovereigns, captaincy, hourglass, for training in handling toxicity, etc.

I see, I was giving you more time than you are worth.

"When you have zero tolerance for hackers." Not Toxicity.

If you can't tell the difference between the two... I now realize I was speaking to someone inferior, my words are beyond your capacity of comprehension. I am sorry to have confused you. I was responding to you as an equal. Goodbye, I will not be responding to any more of your posts because you are beneath my concern.

I'm going to look past your rudeness and disrespectful behavior. I am here to be helpful and I will explain why I said toxicity instead of hackers.

In the directly quoted comment, you talked about a temporary ban. This is applicable to toxic behavior, not cheats. Hence I focused on toxicity in that part of my comment. Even in your example in your first comment, I wouldn't rule out that a legitimate experienced player cannon/ladder launched themselves to your ship and spawncamped you repeatedly toxically without cheats. You're a 50 hour player. You might not know a lot of little details in the game that make a big difference in pvp. I wouldn't be surprised if this happened.

Anyway, the same comment applies if you have zero tolerance for cheaters or toxicity. If you can't tolerate toxicity/cheaters at all, either play safer seas like many casual players with young children do, or move on to another game.