Will safer seas ever be less punishing to play?

[SirCuddlesWorth]

I get you want people to play pvp, but there are those of that can't like myself.
Im autistic and deal with seviere anxiety and other medical stuff, why does it have to be so restricting when i bought the game and just to have fun and enjoy a cool pirate game. I just dont understand why you have to be so extreme with reducing gold and experiences and features we share because we cant play pvp. what we do playing dont affect any pvp players so why do i feel like im being forced to play it.

I understand i cant have because its big player thingg like

• Guilds
  
• World Raids, i think its called.

because it's just me and a couple friends.
But I cant

• My own ship
  
• Buy deccorations
  
• sell treasure and gold the same. i fought my way to it, and took the time to take it to my ship, and be attacked by skeletons and shark bruice the same.

but you left all micro transactions in there for me to buy and not be able to use?
i bough quite a few, and bought, but why bother when i cant use them.
sorry if i dont understand, but uoy got the money from our purchases, and the stats for us being active playing it, i know you all at rare worked really hard on this game but its still sales and active players. sorry if its conffusing to read, i have a hard time explaining what im thinking :/

I hope you all have a wonderful week, and stay safe :)

[Sasha Mason]

World Raids? I don't know of such a feature to be in the game at all, what are you referring to here?

[mopwielder]

The only cosmetics you can't use in safer seas are trinkets/ship decorations and ship crests. All the other ship cosmetics can be used, just apply them to the ship every time you start a session. As for increased rewards, the official statement on that is:

The game design and intent for Sea of Thieves is a shared world adventure, and it always will be. Those who wish to play in the confines of Safer Seas will always have the option but we will not bring the rewards and activities in line with those of High Seas when many of the restrictions are in place due to the risk vs reward factor that is inherent in Sea of Thieves - removing any risk means rewards must be balanced accordingly.

Safer Seas will act not only as a safe space for our Tall Tale players but also for families with children who just want to pirate, for people who want to play the game but learn the ropes and it will organically feed into Adventure mode, keeping the player pool there healthy and upskilled as they've learned the mechanics.

This is not only useful for new players but families, players with accessibility needs - the whole game suddenly become available in a way it hasn't before, letting them naturally progress to High Seas and being a Pirate Legend. SoT has grown a huge amount in 5 years and it can be fairly overwhelming.

The borders put in Safer Seas mean that to experience the full depth and breadth of the game you will have to hit the high seas BUT if you're playing with your family you don't have to, you can just enjoy the game and have fun as a family.

I will also point out that if you choose the option "closed crew", it prevents random people from joining your crew uninvited.

[SirCuddlesWorth]

Originally posted by Sasha Mason:

World Raids? I don't know of such a feature to be in the game at all, what are you referring to here?

the big battles at those empty forts

[SirCuddlesWorth]

Originally posted by mopwielder:

The only cosmetics you can't use in safer seas are trinkets/ship decorations and ship crests. All the other ship cosmetics can be used, just apply them to the ship every time you start a session. As for increased rewards, the official statement on that is:

The game design and intent for Sea of Thieves is a shared world adventure, and it always will be. Those who wish to play in the confines of Safer Seas will always have the option but we will not bring the rewards and activities in line with those of High Seas when many of the restrictions are in place due to the risk vs reward factor that is inherent in Sea of Thieves - removing any risk means rewards must be balanced accordingly.

Safer Seas will act not only as a safe space for our Tall Tale players but also for families with children who just want to pirate, for people who want to play the game but learn the ropes and it will organically feed into Adventure mode, keeping the player pool there healthy and upskilled as they've learned the mechanics.

This is not only useful for new players but families, players with accessibility needs - the whole game suddenly become available in a way it hasn't before, letting them naturally progress to High Seas and being a Pirate Legend. SoT has grown a huge amount in 5 years and it can be fairly overwhelming.

The borders put in Safer Seas mean that to experience the full depth and breadth of the game you will have to hit the high seas BUT if you're playing with your family you don't have to, you can just enjoy the game and have fun as a family.

I will also point out that if you choose the option "closed crew", it prevents random people from joining your crew uninvited.

yeah but you did not read my post, i cant play pvp. so i will never get to experince anything and endlesly be punished for my limitations :(

[Sasha Mason]

Originally posted by SirCuddlesWorth:

Originally posted by Sasha Mason:

World Raids? I don't know of such a feature to be in the game at all, what are you referring to here?

the big battles at those empty forts

World Events?
Nearly all of those are available in Safer Seas.
Exception being Fort of Fortune and Fort of the Damned.

Fort of Fortune due to Athena loot, and Fort of the Damned because it isn't possible to get all required flames without dying to a player from a different crew.

Gameplay wise, Fort of Fortune plays basically like your regular skull fort (which is available) but with an Ashen Lord at the end instead of a regular boss mob. The Ashen Lord is available as its own standalone world event though, so you can still experience a fight against that.

Fort of the Damned, yeah is bit of a shame, it's fun to do and I love the atmosphere of the Fort of the Damned.

Originally posted by SirCuddlesWorth:

yeah but you did not read my post, i cant play pvp. so i will never get to experince anything and endlesly be punished for my limitations :(

Honestly, for the longest time since this game had been out, PvP was the only way to play. I'm sure that just like how they changed their minds about always-PvP to also allowing a PvE only way, they may also tinker with the current limitations at some point.

I'd argue you arent really missing all that much that feels like would actually matter.

Oh yeah also, the Siren Call, something competitive voyage, I forgot what it was called, that one you cant do either, but that is one that specifically requires multiple crews to partake in it as its all about PvP.

[Cam]

I do think 30% a bit prohibitive, and it pushed me out of safer seas after only one session. Way too slow. I think restricting captaincy is similarly strange. People can't be allowed to own a boat by themselves??

Having that said. You should give High Seas a shot, OP. I'm pretty new to the game, but I tried out high seas because I wanted the full gold rewards, and I've only had one interaction with anybody. If someone starts griefing or harassing you you can simply leave and change servers. You can disable all communications with other crews at the touch of a button, there's an option for it in the keybinds.

I deal with a lot of social anxiety myself, but I wouldn't have had a chance to interact with people even if I wanted one. Almost everyone just steers clear of each other in my experience so far. I had one interaction, and of course it was a micspamming griefer, but I just hit the 'mute other crews' button and then we hopped servers.

If you can't handle it and stick to safer seas then that's fine of course, but if PvP is your specific concern it doesn't seem to happen all that much unless you go seeking it.

Best of luck either way, OP.

[Snappera]

Not that I know much about your condition OP, but from what you're saying, High Seas would probably not be a nice experience for you. There might be fun bits, but unconsented PvP is the name of the game there. Plus, I believe the community is incredibly toxic, moreso than most gaming communities I've been a part of at least.

Feel free to give it a go, but I wouldn't want you to risk ruining an evening over a video game. You know you better than we do.

I hope the developers find a way to make the experience more enjoyable for you :)

[Freeloader Fred]

Originally posted by SirCuddlesWorth:

Originally posted by mopwielder:

The only cosmetics you can't use in safer seas are trinkets/ship decorations and ship crests. All the other ship cosmetics can be used, just apply them to the ship every time you start a session. As for increased rewards, the official statement on that is:

The game design and intent for Sea of Thieves is a shared world adventure, and it always will be. Those who wish to play in the confines of Safer Seas will always have the option but we will not bring the rewards and activities in line with those of High Seas when many of the restrictions are in place due to the risk vs reward factor that is inherent in Sea of Thieves - removing any risk means rewards must be balanced accordingly.

Safer Seas will act not only as a safe space for our Tall Tale players but also for families with children who just want to pirate, for people who want to play the game but learn the ropes and it will organically feed into Adventure mode, keeping the player pool there healthy and upskilled as they've learned the mechanics.

This is not only useful for new players but families, players with accessibility needs - the whole game suddenly become available in a way it hasn't before, letting them naturally progress to High Seas and being a Pirate Legend. SoT has grown a huge amount in 5 years and it can be fairly overwhelming.

The borders put in Safer Seas mean that to experience the full depth and breadth of the game you will have to hit the high seas BUT if you're playing with your family you don't have to, you can just enjoy the game and have fun as a family.

I will also point out that if you choose the option "closed crew", it prevents random people from joining your crew uninvited.

yeah but you did not read my post, i cant play pvp. so i will never get to experince anything and endlesly be punished for my limitations :(

No it's not going to change and it shouldnt change. I'm sorry you cant deal with the PvP aspect but at the end of the day you bought a PvPvE game knowing all too well it was PvPvE. The dev's are not going to change the fundamentals of the game for a minority (PvE'ers) of the overall community.

[Silver Salvation]

Originally posted by Cryptic Draugr:

Originally posted by SirCuddlesWorth:

yeah but you did not read my post, i cant play pvp. so i will never get to experince anything and endlesly be punished for my limitations :(

No it's not going to change and it shouldnt change. I'm sorry you cant deal with the PvP aspect but at the end of the day you bought a PvPvE game knowing all too well it was PvPvE. The dev's are not going to change the fundamentals of the game for a minority (PvE'ers) of the overall community.

PvE players would not be a minority if they didnt get belittled and bullied out of the game every time someone makes a post about PvE.
You can play this game as pure PvP with full rewards but asking for a more balanced PvE experience is apperantly too much. Its a wonder this post is not locked yet given how much the mods hate SS and PvE posts.

[Snappera]

Originally posted by Cryptic Draugr:

Originally posted by SirCuddlesWorth:

yeah but you did not read my post, i cant play pvp. so i will never get to experince anything and endlesly be punished for my limitations :(

No it's not going to change and it shouldnt change. I'm sorry you cant deal with the PvP aspect but at the end of the day you bought a PvPvE game knowing all too well it was PvPvE. The dev's are not going to change the fundamentals of the game for a minority (PvE'ers) of the overall community.

Cryptic does make a good point. If you've bought the game recently and not played much, you may be eligible for a refund.

[Cam]

Originally posted by GamerLuc:

Originally posted by Cryptic Draugr:

No it's not going to change and it shouldnt change. I'm sorry you cant deal with the PvP aspect but at the end of the day you bought a PvPvE game knowing all too well it was PvPvE. The dev's are not going to change the fundamentals of the game for a minority (PvE'ers) of the overall community.

PvE players would not be a minority if they didnt get belittled and bullied out of the game every time someone makes a post about PvE.
You can play this game as pure PvP with full rewards but asking for a more balanced PvE experience is apperantly too much. Its a wonder this post is not locked yet given how much the mods hate SS and PvE posts.

I don't get how SS needs to filter players into HS to keep numbers healthy (according to the mods themselves) but also it's the way everyone wants to play in the first place and anyone who doesn't is the 'minority.' If that were true why would those people need to be made to join HS and keep numbers healthy? Isn't it what everyone wants to do already?

[Sokaku]

Why should you care about rewards &cosmetics? It is the challenge and enjoyment of playing the game. They have isolated you from arguably more than 70% of the risk (other players) so you get 30% of the gold for the loot. Some challenges have been restricted because those challenges were rewards specifically for the PVP contention that were designed for.

SoT way never designed to be a single-player adventure, it is a sandbox with up to 4 other crews to contend with at any one time. You can choose to get a bit paranoid watching the horizon, fight for what you find, steal what you can take, or play safer seas & enjoy the content geared towards single player.

[Freeloader Fred]

Originally posted by GamerLuc:

Originally posted by Cryptic Draugr:

No it's not going to change and it shouldnt change. I'm sorry you cant deal with the PvP aspect but at the end of the day you bought a PvPvE game knowing all too well it was PvPvE. The dev's are not going to change the fundamentals of the game for a minority (PvE'ers) of the overall community.

PvE players would not be a minority if they didnt get belittled and bullied out of the game every time someone makes a post about PvE.
You can play this game as pure PvP with full rewards but asking for a more balanced PvE experience is apperantly too much. Its a wonder this post is not locked yet given how much the mods hate SS and PvE posts.

They do it to themselves more than anything because they want the fundamentals of how the game works to appease them. Fact of the matter is exactly what I already stated above. They bought a PvPvE game knowing damn well it is PvPvE and then they cry and complain about PvPvE. im sorry but the PvE community is not very smart.

Going to your point how of you can play pure PvP with full rewards...yea, because PvP is a big part of how the game works. It's not balanced around PvE and would require fundamentally changing the entire game to fit balancing PvE only. PvE'ers don't seem to understand this. it's not meant to be a PvE single player/co-op sandbox game. You can make it that way sure by forming alliances with other crews, but it's not made for a PvE experience nor was it ever made to be a PvE experience.

[Freeloader Fred]

Originally posted by SirCuddlesWorth:

Originally posted by mopwielder:

The only cosmetics you can't use in safer seas are trinkets/ship decorations and ship crests. All the other ship cosmetics can be used, just apply them to the ship every time you start a session. As for increased rewards, the official statement on that is:

The game design and intent for Sea of Thieves is a shared world adventure, and it always will be. Those who wish to play in the confines of Safer Seas will always have the option but we will not bring the rewards and activities in line with those of High Seas when many of the restrictions are in place due to the risk vs reward factor that is inherent in Sea of Thieves - removing any risk means rewards must be balanced accordingly.

Safer Seas will act not only as a safe space for our Tall Tale players but also for families with children who just want to pirate, for people who want to play the game but learn the ropes and it will organically feed into Adventure mode, keeping the player pool there healthy and upskilled as they've learned the mechanics.

This is not only useful for new players but families, players with accessibility needs - the whole game suddenly become available in a way it hasn't before, letting them naturally progress to High Seas and being a Pirate Legend. SoT has grown a huge amount in 5 years and it can be fairly overwhelming.

The borders put in Safer Seas mean that to experience the full depth and breadth of the game you will have to hit the high seas BUT if you're playing with your family you don't have to, you can just enjoy the game and have fun as a family.

I will also point out that if you choose the option "closed crew", it prevents random people from joining your crew uninvited.

yeah but you did not read my post, i cant play pvp. so i will never get to experince anything and endlesly be punished for my limitations :(

Let me ask the OP something here. Have you actually tried high seas? or are you going solely off of what others say when it comes to the PvP? Because I can assure you if you haven't tried it, it's not nearly as bad as people are making it out to be.

[🍮]

without pvp the game would become too limited and boring. safer seas was created in really about the only way they could have done it without ruining the game. i was surprised how well they did when they added it with the limitations. without the limitations it will destroy the game. i love the game but if it becomes a pve vs pvp server game i'll be done with it. safer seas is good the way it is and it's more than enough for you if you only want to play pve and avoid the actual normal gameplay that makes the game enjoyable to those of us who want content and not simply a limited pve game. like the last person wrote the pvp in this game is easy to do and not punishing. it's not nearly as bad as someone might think if they're new. you die and then so what? you start again with your ship and all your gear. dying isn't a big deal. it's fun that in a pirate game you can actually behave like a pirate and have a risk of dying. pve only games are limited and after the content is exhausted they have nothing to offer. my favorite games mix pve with pvp and allow us the freedom to actually have risk involved and possibly die. i never die in pve games unless it's like maybe a dark souls game or some other super challenging game.

Originally posted by SirCuddlesWorth:

yeah but you did not read my post, i cant play pvp. so i will never get to experince anything and endlesly be punished for my limitations :(

actually you can play pvp. you're just limiting yourself. you could for example join a galleon crew and focus on doing repairs and manning cannons. if you can play the pve then that's not even as difficult as the pve. you also can't expect the devs to change the game to suit the needs of one person who has a complete aversion to pvp while the majority of people who play want the high seas to be how the game works.