Start New Journey + ?

[GAMESweetG]

I've just finished playing the story and noticed there's a new option in the menu called "Start New Journey +" with the normal "Start New Journey".

What's the difference? I know about that the skins & chest etc are carried over via it. But what else is different?

[robert.norgren]

Maybe you start with all the force powers you've unlocked?

[Arik]

You get meditation training, Cal's Inquisitor outfit and red crystal, but all your skills and force powers will be reset.

[GAMESweetG]

Originally posted by Arik:

You get meditation training, Cal's Inquisitor outfit and red crystal, but all your skills and force powers will be reset.

Ah ok.

[Bazzy]

Wait, so there is no option to play the story again with unlocks?
I googled and they seem to have added a enemy wave fighting mode called ng+. That and the new journey+ option op mentioned sound just like EA trolling.
What the hell?! The devs should know how dark souls ng+ works given how much they copy fromsofts systems in this game!

[Trish_VR]

Originally posted by Bazzy:

Wait, so there is no option to play the story again with unlocks?
I googled and they seem to have added a enemy wave fighting mode called ng+. That and the new journey+ option op mentioned sound just like EA trolling.
What the hell?! The devs should know how dark souls ng+ works given how much they copy fromsofts systems in this game!

They did consider a proper new game plus, where you start the game with all abilities unlocked, but it would break progression in some places. Think, what would happen if you played through Dathomir before you even went to Zeffo for the first time? How would a game with a linear story handle that?

[Pseudo]

Originally posted by Trish:

Originally posted by Bazzy:

Wait, so there is no option to play the story again with unlocks?
I googled and they seem to have added a enemy wave fighting mode called ng+. That and the new journey+ option op mentioned sound just like EA trolling.
What the hell?! The devs should know how dark souls ng+ works given how much they copy fromsofts systems in this game!

They did consider a proper new game plus, where you start the game with all abilities unlocked, but it would break progression in some places. Think, what would happen if you played through Dathomir before you even went to Zeffo for the first time? How would a game with a linear story handle that?

The planet traversing should have been much more linear then, I went to Dathomir first because It was the only planet I was familiar with and ended up stuck for hours not knowing that I wasn't even supposed to be there

[Trish_VR]

Originally posted by Trilby:

Originally posted by Trish:

They did consider a proper new game plus, where you start the game with all abilities unlocked, but it would break progression in some places. Think, what would happen if you played through Dathomir before you even went to Zeffo for the first time? How would a game with a linear story handle that?

The planet traversing should have been much more linear then, I went to Dathomir first because It was the only planet I was familiar with and ended up stuck for hours not knowing that I wasn't even supposed to be there

I forgot to clarify:
What if you played through the part of Dathomir locked behind double jump, before you even went to Zeffo for the first time? A lot of systems could/would break.

[Pseudo]

Originally posted by Trish:

Originally posted by Trilby:

The planet traversing should have been much more linear then, I went to Dathomir first because It was the only planet I was familiar with and ended up stuck for hours not knowing that I wasn't even supposed to be there

I forgot to clarify:
What if you played through the part of Dathomir locked behind double jump, before you even went to Zeffo for the first time? A lot of systems could/would break.

Double jump is not unlocked through the skill tree, wiping the skill tree still makes no sense because there isn't anything in it that can be classified as sequence breaking

[Trish_VR]

Originally posted by Trilby:

Originally posted by Trish:

I forgot to clarify:
What if you played through the part of Dathomir locked behind double jump, before you even went to Zeffo for the first time? A lot of systems could/would break.

Double jump is not unlocked through the skill tree, wiping the skill tree still makes no sense because there isn't anything in it that can be classified as sequence breaking

Lightsaber Throw, for example, is only available after you unlock Force Pull on Dathomir. How would the game handle trying to open up parts of the skill tree that are already open?

The decision to not have all abilities available from the start in NJ+ was one made by the devs. You're playing on PC, so it's easy enough to go online and get a mod that lets you do the same thing.

[Pseudo]

Originally posted by Trish:

Originally posted by Trilby:

Double jump is not unlocked through the skill tree, wiping the skill tree still makes no sense because there isn't anything in it that can be classified as sequence breaking

Lightsaber Throw, for example, is only available after you unlock Force Pull on Dathomir. How would the game handle trying to open up parts of the skill tree that are already open?

The decision to not have all abilities available from the start in NJ+ was one made by the devs. You're playing on PC, so it's easy enough to go online and get a mod that lets you do the same thing.

Then a prompt should appear telling the player of the pertained requirement, its almost as if the devs don't know the point of a game having ng+ and comes off a sheer laziness, believe me, of all people on this planet I should love this game more than anyone, I'm a massive Star Wars fan and own nearly all of the games, I have hundreds of hours in the Souls franchise, the game is made my Respawn entertainment, responsible for possibly my favorite game of all time, Titanfall 2, and people in that studio had a part in the original Modern Warfare and Modern Warfare 2. So I'm being completely honest with my takes on this game, so much crap in this game reeks of unpolish and I can't really blame them, Respawn had never made a game like this before and its not awful for a first try, but I believe this game receives way to much praise for what it is

[Solid Snake]

I can understand from a certain point of view that they removed all your skills until the story unlock them for you (Since, if you access dathomir temple too early, it would make no real sense)

It's not a straight open-world, so it doesn't handle being able to go early on zones that devs didn't thought about.

The only real problem that i have with the game is that you can't skip cutscenes in New Game+ (i understand why you shouldn't be able to skip during the first save and i agree with it)