STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order™

STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order™

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Id May 4, 2020 @ 10:48pm
My thoughts on this free update
New Journey Plus is trash, gotta relearn everything, which means the new modes boss rush and challenge mode are pointless and just for anyone with masochist tendencies.

Can't get the Inquisitor Outfit and red kyber crystal if you don't start a New Journey Plus and even if you start one then load up an old file where you already 100 percented the game like I did you still won't be able to use that Outfit and you won't have the Red Kyber Crystal. Exclusive to New Journey Plus is to be taken literally.

You can play the new modes on your old save file, but even then the only new enemy to fight is Cal, which is basically a mirror of yourself and will use everything you know. In the Battle Grid the maps aren't maps, they're literally a flat piece of ground and a GIF Wallpaper Background.

I love BD1, but I'm not gonna waste my time playing Challenge mode only to unlock 3 BD1 Skins that look generic as ♥♥♥♥.

Missed opportunity and it was probably done on purpose not to have Cere, Darth Vader, and my Bae Merrin in the Battle Grid so we can have our dream fights. Only Master Jaro is available as an ally and even then he still attacks you if you get close to him. Another missed opportunity to not have my Side Bae Trilla unmasked.

If I knew I was going to be met with disappointment I wouldn't have redownloaded this game
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claualarcon94 May 6, 2020 @ 8:35am 
Yes, can't be called new game plus if abilities don't carry over, I dont care much about cosmetics. And the "bloody palace" thing is not shared between ng and ng+. If you do the challenges before starting a ng+, and then start the ng+, all your progress will be lost. I was excited in replaying this game thinking I could start with all of Cal's skills but when I realize I had to buy them all over I automatically uninstalled this dissapointment
Reanimator May 6, 2020 @ 9:23am 
Ww, a free update comes out and people are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on the devs.
Judge Lazar May 6, 2020 @ 9:45am 
You do understand that the story progression is directly linked to getting certain abilities at certain times, right? Meaning that if you started over with all your abilities there would be literally no point going anywhere besides your first trip to Bogano and then straight to the fortress. It would break the game completely. NG+ makes it so you don't have to do so much ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ around to get cosmetics allowing you to go through the story much faster.



Originally posted by Id:
New Journey Plus is trash, gotta relearn everything, which means the new modes boss rush and challenge mode are pointless and just for anyone with masochist tendencies.

You can play the new modes on your old save file, but even then the only new enemy to fight is Cal, which is basically a mirror of yourself and will use everything you know.

You literally just invalidated your own complaint. Cere and Merrin have no combat animations aside from Merrin's stun she uses on Malicos, so unless they dropped a whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of extra work to create those animations, the best they could be is just a reskin of other enemies. Same for Vader. Honestly, your complaints about a free DLC being disappointing kind of just make you sound like a spoiled brat.
Id May 6, 2020 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by Judge Lazar:
You do understand that the story progression is directly linked to getting certain abilities at certain times, right? Meaning that if you started over with all your abilities there would be literally no point going anywhere besides your first trip to Bogano and then straight to the fortress. It would break the game completely. NG+ makes it so you don't have to do so much ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ around to get cosmetics allowing you to go through the story much faster.



Originally posted by Id:
New Journey Plus is trash, gotta relearn everything, which means the new modes boss rush and challenge mode are pointless and just for anyone with masochist tendencies.

You can play the new modes on your old save file, but even then the only new enemy to fight is Cal, which is basically a mirror of yourself and will use everything you know.

You literally just invalidated your own complaint. Cere and Merrin have no combat animations aside from Merrin's stun she uses on Malicos, so unless they dropped a whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of extra work to create those animations, the best they could be is just a reskin of other enemies. Same for Vader. Honestly, your complaints about a free DLC being disappointing kind of just make you sound like a spoiled brat.
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Originally posted by claualarcon94:
Yes, can't be called new game plus if abilities don't carry over, I dont care much about cosmetics. And the "bloody palace" thing is not shared between ng and ng+. If you do the challenges before starting a ng+, and then start the ng+, all your progress will be lost. I was excited in replaying this game thinking I could start with all of Cal's skills but when I realize I had to buy them all over I automatically uninstalled this dissapointment
The stuff I read online said the skills unlock as you get the force powers they require. Meaning you don’t have to spend skill points. Is that not the case?

Edit: No, it seems that it doesn’t work like that, which is what I would have preferred.

It would be weird to have a cutscene about getting access to a Force power you already have access to. There would also be no reason not to just go directly to Dathomir and get the macguffin for the vault.
Last edited by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr; May 7, 2020 @ 4:58am
Spigaow May 6, 2020 @ 12:48pm 
I think they couldn't do a better way to do ng+. This way i still had enjoyment going arround for scan reads and force echoes, without the tedious chest search in every area after unlocking new abilities. The game with full abilities would be boring. Im already going through way faster than before because i know the game mechanics in combat, it's already a huge boost in Cals abilities you can say
And going there with my favorite light color and available outfits is enjoyable for me.

You do have a point for the "arena mode" that is a bit wonky. the ennemies are kinda fighting with the floor physics sometimes and teleporting slightly to the sides making either a huge miss on you or hitting you if they should'nt have.. but hey, story perspective, it works.

And i would have preferred a proper jedi outfit like when he is young instead of inquisitor wich doesn't make any sense imo but i can't blame people for wanting that stuff.
Pcnuttie May 6, 2020 @ 1:10pm 
The reason why we have a new update is because they were celebrating May the 4th and they added this new content. They plan to add a sequel in the works. It will be a trilogy. It's gonna be interesting!
Pcnuttie May 6, 2020 @ 1:11pm 
Btw has anyone tried fighting 4 Macro? I did and failed lol. I blocked and fought with valor but I can defeat Marco with 2 of them. Makes me wonder if you fellas can handle the sith lady if she was 10 of them. Try it without a trainer!
BagelBeater 21 May 6, 2020 @ 3:01pm 
Originally posted by claualarcon94:
Yes, can't be called new game plus if abilities don't carry over, I dont care much about cosmetics. And the "bloody palace" thing is not shared between ng and ng+. If you do the challenges before starting a ng+, and then start the ng+, all your progress will be lost. I was excited in replaying this game thinking I could start with all of Cal's skills but when I realize I had to buy them all over I automatically uninstalled this dissapointment
its working on my previous save but only after credits, vader etc. Inq Cal is only ng+ tho
A May 6, 2020 @ 4:16pm 
i feel like the challenge modes should be seperate from the story and you can access them from the menu, like the batman arkham series
Zea'Roe'Mei May 6, 2020 @ 4:59pm 
Originally posted by Judge Lazar:
You do understand that the story progression is directly linked to getting certain abilities at certain times, right? Meaning that if you started over with all your abilities there would be literally no point going anywhere besides your first trip to Bogano and then straight to the fortress. It would break the game completely. NG+ makes it so you don't have to do so much ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ around to get cosmetics allowing you to go through the story much faster.

You're simply wrong. The story progression isn't tied to the powers, as you get them exactly when you need them to progress the story. There are only a few that might cause that issue, but it would be incredibly easy to get around that. The only part that I can remember that is blocked by the need for a force power is Dathomir needing double jump. Everything else is optional stuff. And the map and NPC placement doesn't change based on powers you have, but story progression, meaning Malicos still won't be at the temple. They could have easily tied certain things (like doors being open or something) to bosses being defeated. It's literally one of the oldest tricks in the book. And it wouldn't take much work, either.

This update was bare bones. NJ+ is bs, especially compared to other and older games with similar features, and the exploration is tedious and boring. I appreciate the effort, but they could have done more, and should have.
Zea'Roe'Mei May 6, 2020 @ 5:05pm 
Originally posted by Pcnuttie:
The reason why we have a new update is because they were celebrating May the 4th and they added this new content. They plan to add a sequel in the works. It will be a trilogy. It's gonna be interesting!

Um, where did you hear that? Neither E.A. nor Respawn has said anything like, that, and while there will most likely be a sequel, whether it's in development or not is not clear.
Granola Avenger May 6, 2020 @ 7:48pm 
i was pretty dissapointed that you lose all of your powers in ng+. i just finished the game tonight, and was stoked to try out the combat trials and go through the ng+ collecting everything i missed on my first run, but to have to regrind all the skills sucked the fun out of it for me.

the combat trials especially. i would have loved to dive into those having just finished the story, but with skills wiped out, youre pretty gutless against the waves of enemies. im not sure what the solution to keeping the powers while not conflicting with the story beats is, but only letting us keep the cosmetic stuff isnt much of a ng+ imo

dont get me wrong i love this game and its easily a 9\10 in my book, im just not digging the way the ng+ was tacked onto the game like that
Last edited by Granola Avenger; May 6, 2020 @ 7:51pm
PRPE7UAL May 8, 2020 @ 3:11am 
They should've allowed you to keep all of your abilities (the ones you spent points for) and just removed the ones tied to story progression, this NG+ is pointless.

Shame.
1Lc May 8, 2020 @ 3:34am 
Any of you had your + save game crash ? its specificly the + saved file.. The other normal save files workes fine ? repaired the game and reinstalled it with no help ? :)
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Date Posted: May 4, 2020 @ 10:48pm
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