3rd person?

[Irven]

no 3rd person view?

[Buck Squatterton]

I believe at one point the devs stated that for MO1 at least, they believe that 3rd person takes the immersion out of the experience, so I don't think there will ever be 3rd person view.

[Caldrin]

No 3rd person.

[Irven]

it is ... and look at the great success that was the first xD
bb mortal 2

[KnightNi]

i cant even see someone next to my shoulder, wouldnt someone with a 3 monitor set up destroy anyone who isnt using one in this game? other games with this combat do fine with third person. Mordhau, life is feudal, mount and blade, gloria victis, and some others im sure

[endryju]

3rd person? HEREESYYYYYY!

[Evir the Warrior]

Originally posted by BilboTBagginz:

I believe at one point the devs stated that for MO1 at least, they believe that 3rd person takes the immersion out of the experience, so I don't think there will ever be 3rd person view.

so having blinders on increases "immersion"? you cannot see to your left and right in combat making the game turn into flailing matches where you constantly flip your character left and right as someone tries to stay out of your field of view. It is a terrible game design choice.

[Denaton]

Yes, all games that only use first person view flopps, thats why Counter-Strike never took off..

[Krivvin]

Life is lived in first person. There's an immersion to be had from playing from the point of view of how we all live our lives.

[Evir the Warrior]

Originally posted by Denaton:

Yes, all games that only use first person view flopps, thats why Counter-Strike never took off..

The massive and I do mean massive difference, Counter Strike, deals with mostly firearms and fighting at a distance, with the occasional knife kill.
This game, deals with mostly melee combat with some people using bows.

When you have people moving around you at around arms length trying to hit you and you are trying to hit them. It is very difficult to know exactly where they are because you have no peripheral view of them and they move to your side or rear, it is especially a problem in group fights.

When they are at a distance such as in Counter Strike or other FPS games People tend to be at much more of a distance and you tend to trade shots back and forth, you can keep them in your line of sight. People really complain about melee weapons in first person shooter games, because it can be a real challenge to kill someone that is dancing around you swinging a knife, especially if they are fast.

People are not standing in front of you trading blows in this game, they are constantly circling, jousting, and trying to get into your blind spot, and that happens to be most of the area around you since your FOV is like 90 degrees in front of you, leaving 270 degrees to your sides and back.
In reality your FOV should be 190 degrees leaving only 170 behind you (this is all without moving your eyes or head at all)
if you change the FOV in game, you get a weird fisheye style view and combine that with motion blur it becomes very annoying to deal with when you are trying to keep track of multiple people in a fight. I believe the most you can change the FOV is to 110 degrees, and it pulls the camera back a touch and bends what you see a bit, if the developers do much more the fisheye effect gets way worse.

[Irven]

I think the correct thing would be to offer the player an option!
if you prefer to play in "1st person" or "3rd person" just change the option, I played "MO1" with fov MOD for some time, until you got bored!
perspective each one will have his, 1st, 3rd, VR, good DEVs understand and offer the content to attract more players and maintain a community always active and functional.
Unlike what happened with "MO1" which was left with lots of empty pastures!
it really was a shame because in the case of "MO1" it was ALMOST a 100% original idea, already the 2 ... Today there are several MMOs and games in Survival style that offer building options and everything else.

[KnightNi]

maybe all the veterans that play this game have a triple monitor setup so they can see that 270 degrees while we only see 90

[Cameron]

I think they should definitely add key bindings in for melle combat if immersion is a goal. It's not very immersive flinging your camera around all over the place in first person. It's actually kind of nauseating lol.

[Kayido]

Originally posted by KnightNi:

maybe all the veterans that play this game have a triple monitor setup so they can see that 270 degrees while we only see 90

Ahaha lol i bet they do !

[Irven]

I think it is not a question of using multiple monitors (although I use 2 of 178º curves), there is a question of people with visual disturbances who may be sick with "motion blur", which is very strong in the first person.
but certainly the DEVs have already thought about all this :P
maybe one day make a MOD for 3rd person!
big FPS like Borderland can be players with mode, without losing the experience provided by the game, with any luck the "MO2" can be like that ^^

[Wesleypipes77]

Yeah, I wasn't really following the development that closely and haven't hopped into the stress test yet. It definitely lowered my motivation to do so when I found out it's 1st person view only.

To me a big part of the MMORPG experience is being able to see and identify with the character you play being able to physically see how they've progressed by the armor & weapons they wear and other effects you can only see from an outside perspective. Being able to see the fruits of your labour more or less. Not being able to see your own character takes that part of the experience away.

I don't have anything against 1st person view if it is an option and not locked in. I get that they probably did it for PvP related reasons but IMO if you're going to lock in only one perspective being available at all in an MMO it should be 3rd person.

I'll still give the game a shot but any hype I had looking forward to it's release has definitely taken a hit with this realization. I was hoping MO2 was going to be more or less a bigger better version of what MO1 was intended to be but never quite reached. With no 3rd person it's going to seem a lot more like a completely different game in concept.