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Employee 427 Sep 15, 2022 @ 12:12am
How to unlock framerate
My fps is stuck at 60 and won't go above. I've turned off vsync and set display to borderless windowed like other threads said but nothing changes. How do I uncap it?
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Xuild Sep 15, 2022 @ 1:56am 
why do you need to uncap it? 60 fps is way more than enough, infact playing happy wheels with 30 fps has no visible change
nor7hy5 Sep 15, 2022 @ 5:30am 
Originally posted by Xuild:
why do you need to uncap it? 60 fps is way more than enough, infact playing happy wheels with 30 fps has no visible change
im guessing you haven't done surface level research on the topic* and either haven't played games with a high hz monitor and then compared lower fps to higher fps or your part of the population who can't see a difference beyond 30/40fps.
*don't mean surface level research as in reading 1 article as those are often wrong i mean actually reading a few studies.

now to explain the eyes doesn't see in fps that is what cameras/screens do and their way less complex than the eye now the issue with this topic is that there isn't a lot of research on it their still trying to figure this out last time i did surface level research on the topic so the visible range in which the eye and brain can see is unknown and appears to be different from person to person but just so you know depending on the person they can indeed see a visible difference from beyond 60fps i can tell you from experience that when i get 165fps i can tell the difference i can also see the visible difference between 30fps and 60fps it's very clear to me.

now to answer your question you stated "why do you need to uncap it?" now if i were to take this literality then you don't need more than 1fps to play a game it is possible too not pleasant but possible so why do you want more than 1fps? if you answer that you should get a clear answer to why this person might want more fps and just to make sure your on the same page it's because it looks smoother at higher fps.
Last edited by nor7hy5; Sep 15, 2022 @ 5:36am
evanloohaklm Sep 15, 2022 @ 6:42am 
Originally posted by nor7hy5:
Originally posted by Xuild:
why do you need to uncap it? 60 fps is way more than enough, infact playing happy wheels with 30 fps has no visible change
im guessing you haven't done surface level research on the topic* and either haven't played games with a high hz monitor and then compared lower fps to higher fps or your part of the population who can't see a difference beyond 30/40fps.
*don't mean surface level research as in reading 1 article as those are often wrong i mean actually reading a few studies.

now to explain the eyes doesn't see in fps that is what cameras/screens do and their way less complex than the eye now the issue with this topic is that there isn't a lot of research on it their still trying to figure this out last time i did surface level research on the topic so the visible range in which the eye and brain can see is unknown and appears to be different from person to person but just so you know depending on the person they can indeed see a visible difference from beyond 60fps i can tell you from experience that when i get 165fps i can tell the difference i can also see the visible difference between 30fps and 60fps it's very clear to me.

now to answer your question you stated "why do you need to uncap it?" now if i were to take this literality then you don't need more than 1fps to play a game it is possible too not pleasant but possible so why do you want more than 1fps? if you answer that you should get a clear answer to why this person might want more fps and just to make sure your on the same page it's because it looks smoother at higher fps.
Me when I write an essay to prove an internet user wrong:
Employee 427 Sep 15, 2022 @ 9:47pm 
can someone answer my question instead of invoking decade old circlejerks please
Supersquid Sep 16, 2022 @ 2:14pm 
Dude, 60 FPS is perfect.
SiEgE Sep 18, 2022 @ 12:25am 
Originally posted by Xuild:
why do you need to uncap it? 60 fps is way more than enough, infact playing happy wheels with 30 fps has no visible change
30 fps cannot have "no visible change" over 60 fps. Unless we're talking of interpolation. Don't tell me you're another "25th hidden frame" adept.

Originally posted by Employee 427:
My fps is stuck at 60 and won't go above. I've turned off vsync and set display to borderless windowed like other threads said but nothing changes. How do I uncap it?
Most physics-based games are fps-locked. If you take games like Oblivion or Skyrim - they do the exact same thing. Why? Because physics algorithms, while being stable and performant at 60fps, will go awry and start showing strange behaviour at higher framerate.

You can "hack" yourself higher fps, and I think the dev can give you some clues on how to achieve that, but more often than not, the result gameplay you'll get will not be.. "preferable" over just keeping it at 60fps.
Creating a universal physics engine that would perform excellent at any fps would require quite talent(or quite strong hardware to run it on).

Or, you can stick with physics rate-to-framerate interpolation, which will introduce some visual issues with the object movement, but will allow you to increase your fps as much as you want, if you wish so.. Also, as far as I see, this game uses raytraced lighting, so you might not want to increase your fps for this very reason as well - it will not go as high as you expect it to go, unless you have a hardware that is ready for it(and believe me, there is not much hardware that is ready for it).
Last edited by SiEgE; Sep 18, 2022 @ 1:51am
SiEgE Sep 18, 2022 @ 1:41am 
Originally posted by Supersquid:
Dude, 60 FPS is perfect.
If "perfect" is based on cost-to-result rate, then yes, I agree with you. A 60 fps machine is quite easy to get nowadays, especially if you're not chasing "this year's game releases", and don't mind playing on medium settings.

If your "perfect" says things like "you don't need more", or "there is no point going higher", then I'm afraid you're completely wrong :D

Originally posted by Xuild:
why do you need to uncap it? 60 fps is way more than enough, infact playing happy wheels with 30 fps has no visible change
There is plenty of change. Ask your local PC hardware shop employee to show you a high refresh rate screen in action. Make sure the dude increases the refresh rate at Windows display settings and disables Vsync in-game. Start with 60fps youtube videos(to see the high pixel change rate in its full glory), and polish up with games that allow frame unlocking.

Keep in mind that not every high refresh rate monitor has a high pixel change rate, but almost every high pixel change rate monitor is also a high refresh rate one.
Last edited by SiEgE; Sep 18, 2022 @ 1:42am
Employee 427 Sep 18, 2022 @ 8:09pm 
Originally posted by Phoenix0891:
Originally posted by Employee 427:
My fps is stuck at 60 and won't go above. I've turned off vsync and set display to borderless windowed like other threads said but nothing changes. How do I uncap it?

You can't go above 60 since the game's locked to 60 fps.
is that a recent thing? it used to be unlocked when I played in early access
Employee 427 Sep 18, 2022 @ 8:21pm 
Originally posted by SiEgE:
Originally posted by Xuild:
why do you need to uncap it? 60 fps is way more than enough, infact playing happy wheels with 30 fps has no visible change
30 fps cannot have "no visible change" over 60 fps. Unless we're talking of interpolation. Don't tell me you're another "25th hidden frame" adept.

Originally posted by Employee 427:
My fps is stuck at 60 and won't go above. I've turned off vsync and set display to borderless windowed like other threads said but nothing changes. How do I uncap it?
Most physics-based games are fps-locked. If you take games like Oblivion or Skyrim - they do the exact same thing. Why? Because physics algorithms, while being stable and performant at 60fps, will go awry and start showing strange behaviour at higher framerate.

You can "hack" yourself higher fps, and I think the dev can give you some clues on how to achieve that, but more often than not, the result gameplay you'll get will not be.. "preferable" over just keeping it at 60fps.
Creating a universal physics engine that would perform excellent at any fps would require quite talent(or quite strong hardware to run it on).

Or, you can stick with physics rate-to-framerate interpolation, which will introduce some visual issues with the object movement, but will allow you to increase your fps as much as you want, if you wish so.. Also, as far as I see, this game uses raytraced lighting, so you might not want to increase your fps for this very reason as well - it will not go as high as you expect it to go, unless you have a hardware that is ready for it(and believe me, there is not much hardware that is ready for it).
I cannot find any option or file that unlocks the framerate. Do you know where it is?
lg.balukation Sep 19, 2022 @ 5:29pm 
Go to the "options" menu, then "graphics" tab, and set "vertical sync" into "disabled"
SiEgE Sep 21, 2022 @ 8:06am 
Originally posted by Employee 427:
I cannot find any option or file that unlocks the framerate. Do you know where it is?
I'm talking unlocking as "hacking into the game code and removing the limit that way". Some unofficial patch, maybe?

A developer willfuly locks the fps and prevents anyone from changing it for sake of not letting people using a less functional, less stable, more error-prone version of a game.

If changing fps wasn't an issue - they'd give you a way to do that through the game's settings. If there is none - the developer simply didn't want you to, as he couldn't give you any guarantees it would be an experience he'd want you to take.
Last edited by SiEgE; Sep 21, 2022 @ 8:07am
Employee 427 Sep 22, 2022 @ 12:00am 
Originally posted by lg.balukation:
Go to the "options" menu, then "graphics" tab, and set "vertical sync" into "disabled"
I know how vsync works, that doesn't fix the lock

Originally posted by SiEgE:
Originally posted by Employee 427:
I cannot find any option or file that unlocks the framerate. Do you know where it is?
I'm talking unlocking as "hacking into the game code and removing the limit that way". Some unofficial patch, maybe?

A developer willfuly locks the fps and prevents anyone from changing it for sake of not letting people using a less functional, less stable, more error-prone version of a game.

If changing fps wasn't an issue - they'd give you a way to do that through the game's settings. If there is none - the developer simply didn't want you to, as he couldn't give you any guarantees it would be an experience he'd want you to take.
Except the game specifically had ways to disable it in the past, so was it removed or something? I don't care what the developer thinks about the experience, it should be my choice.
marcoownzu Sep 26, 2022 @ 6:24am 
Bump this. Is there a framerate unlock switch? I usally play with 120 or 144hz
Employee 427 Sep 26, 2022 @ 9:37am 
Originally posted by Phoenix0891:
It's been that way since launch back in 2020. Also there's an answer on this past discussion back in 2020 that'll answer your question. Check out the 2 posts by Kirahl in this discussion. https://steamcommunity.com/app/1167630/discussions/0/2998794978537618164/
I already tried what the developer said if you read the post, it doesn't work
Supersquid Sep 26, 2022 @ 10:32am 
Originally posted by nor7hy5 (edited so it makes sense):
Now to answer your question, you stated:
Originally posted by xuild:
Why do you need to uncap it?
Now if i were to take this literally, then you don't need more than 1FPS to play a game. It is possible, too not pleasant, but possible so why do you want more than 1fps? If you answer that, you should get a clear answer to why this person might want more FPS and just to make sure your on the same page it's because it looks smoother at higher FPS.
We want more than 1 FPS because 1 FPS is hard to play with, and very uncomfortable to look at. 60 FPS looks perfectly fine, and and doesn't make the game hard to play. Once your FPS looks perfectly good, why change it?
Last edited by Supersquid; Sep 26, 2022 @ 10:38am
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