Hardware requirements are INSANE

[maculator]

I love this game but I'm only playing at 2560/1080 and low with everythin off and rendering set to 75% stil my (obviously not top of the line) 2060 super is locked to 95-100% while my cpu is just sitting there doing nothing.

I really wish there were more options to tune your settings!

This is not normal!

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2778569100

[bwsus922]

nope im playing on a gtx970m i5 and runs perfectly

[nor7hy5]

the only reason your cpu is sitting there doing nothing is because physics simulation are super heavy on the cpu meaning as soon as you start destroying ♥♥♥♥ or blowing up ♥♥♥♥ your cpu usage will skyrocket depending on how large scale the destruction was if you used your cpu to calculate the game normaly without any physics the problem with that is your now using the very valuable time of your cpu to run the game but not the physics simulation which will cause the game to get bogged down because now the physics has less resources meaning it can't handle as much as it could without being used.

[オルゴール]

Dont know, but couldnt it be possible, that he is still running an i3-4750 or something like that with 1666MHz ram, and the entire bottleneck is because his ram is not able to give the cpu the necssary informations

[the imaginer]

Also worth noting that, for some reason, using MSI afterburner with Teardown causes your framerate to drop all the way through the floor of hell and then some.

[maculator]

Well without Riva Tuner i get way better results.
Stil need to turn it down to low, but can at least play at 1440p.

Msi really messes this game up. Stil the game needs alot of gpu. Initially I thought the cpu would be the bottleneck.


Starting up 2022-03-13 22:47:17
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Thread count: 12
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Shutting down 2022-03-13 22:48:48

[sissio]

my pc burned down my house i have a 486DX2 clockd at 66Mhz and 12 mb of ram and a SVGA card also i have a Adlib gold with a CD drive 2x and 2 floppy drives

[Scary Busey]

Originally posted by sissio:

my pc burned down my house i have a 486DX2 clockd at 66Mhz and 12 mb of ram and a SVGA card also i have a Adlib gold with a CD drive 2x and 2 floppy drives

Bro you should be playing Doom 2 with that rig, it's way more realistic anyway.

[(Clever Name Here)]

I feel like this topic pops ever constantly. This is a mainly a physics game. Physics game require power. Why? Because theoretically NO PC could ever be powerful to run them at their full potential. They are VERY demanding on any system, no matter how beefy. I have a 2070 Super and have issues. But I expected that! Been messing with physic demos/games for 25ish years now.

If this game had 100% accurate physics (and graphics) like lets say Red Faction, just a shed falling apart would crash most peoples games. In this at least we get more destruction at the cost of less realistic graphics. But I don't care. Just happy to have a nice physics game.

That said this game also has an issue with multi threads. And sadly not to much can be done about it due to how the engine was built. In otherwords it could run way better if fixed, but its impossible for now. If the dev makes a Teardown 2 with an even better engine for multi threads, I'd pay top dollar for the game!

In the meantime this is the best physics game to date.

[オルゴール]

Originally posted by Hoji Kitsune:

I feel like this topic pops ever constantly. This is a mainly a physics game. Physics game require power. Why? Because theoretically NO PC could ever be powerful to run them at their full potential. They are VERY demanding on any system, no matter how beefy. I have a 2070 Super and have issues. But I expected that! Been messing with physic demos/games for 25ish years now.

If this game had 100% accurate physics (and graphics) like lets say Red Faction, just a shed falling apart would crash most peoples games. In this at least we get more destruction at the cost of less realistic graphics. But I don't care. Just happy to have a nice physics game.

That said this game also has an issue with multi threads. And sadly not to much can be done about it due to how the engine was built. In otherwords it could run way better if fixed, but its impossible for now. If the dev makes a Teardown 2 with an even better engine for multi threads, I'd pay top dollar for the game!

In the meantime this is the best physics game to date.

I love how you say correctly that physics is hard to calculate but then say your graphics card... The one Unit that aint really important for physics calculations.

And accurate physics like red faction?.... Ah yea sure

[maculator]

Well in my case the graphics card is the limiting factor.

Without afterburner its okay.

But stil when I tab out and check the performance tab my gpu is the one whos barley able to keep up.

Cpu is fine. Even when blowing up everything I see and spaming rockets I get decent fps.

The whole point of opening this thread has been answered, Afterburner just kills the fps. The rest is nothing to worry about. Just a bit strange since I thought this game would give my cpu more to do than my gpu. Kerbal Space Program for example really trashes my cpu if I get creative while my gpu just sits there freezing.

[オルゴール]

Originally posted by maculator:

Well in my case the graphics card is the limiting factor.

Without afterburner its okay.

But stil when I tab out and check the performance tab my gpu is the one whos barley able to keep up.

Cpu is fine. Even when blowing up everything I see and spaming rockets I get decent fps.

The whole point of opening this thread has been answered, Afterburner just kills the fps. The rest is nothing to worry about. Just a bit strange since I thought this game would give my cpu more to do than my gpu. Kerbal Space Program for example really trashes my cpu if I get creative while my gpu just sits there freezing.

yes, your CPU wont have lots of load, but your CPU is still the limiting factor because your CPU has (most definetly) 8 or more threads, while teardown can only use one to its fullest potential. Therefor you, at most, have 12.5% usage, while stll being bottlenecked

[Babombo]

Originally posted by オルゴール:

Originally posted by maculator:

Well in my case the graphics card is the limiting factor.

Without afterburner its okay.

But stil when I tab out and check the performance tab my gpu is the one whos barley able to keep up.

Cpu is fine. Even when blowing up everything I see and spaming rockets I get decent fps.

The whole point of opening this thread has been answered, Afterburner just kills the fps. The rest is nothing to worry about. Just a bit strange since I thought this game would give my cpu more to do than my gpu. Kerbal Space Program for example really trashes my cpu if I get creative while my gpu just sits there freezing.

yes, your CPU wont have lots of load, but your CPU is still the limiting factor because your CPU has (most definetly) 8 or more threads, while teardown can only use one to its fullest potential. Therefor you, at most, have 12.5% usage, while stll being bottlenecked

which means that if someday the dev finds the time to optimize the game to utilize all the cores teardown will be even more amazing?
i hope that day will come

[オルゴール]

Originally posted by Terraria Smurf 1337 Hours:

Originally posted by オルゴール:

yes, your CPU wont have lots of load, but your CPU is still the limiting factor because your CPU has (most definetly) 8 or more threads, while teardown can only use one to its fullest potential. Therefor you, at most, have 12.5% usage, while stll being bottlenecked

which means that if someday the dev finds the time to optimize the game to utilize all the cores teardown will be even more amazing?
i hope that day will come

Technically yes... Practically, not really.
Physics updates are like
"From A to B to C to D" and in order to use multiple cores you would have to calculate A on one thread, B on another, ...
But because D's input is C, you cant compute D without already having computed C, therefor you are still limited by the speed of one thread, therefor even the best optimization is bound by single core performance.
(this is obviously very very very very simplistic and is not really accurate, but the theory behind it is. The reality would be, that those computations could be somewhat optimized with threads precalculating, etc.)

[Silver Nitrate]

i think there are workshop mods to reduce performance costs from small particles generated on destruction, have you tried some?