Great Gameplay, Fitting Story, but Strange Dialogue

[Andrew K]

Hello, I've been really enjoying this game. The game play is a lot of fun, and it's cool to have some interesting characters check in when starting a shift. The development with the administrator arriving and all that is an interesting addition as well that I don't remember from last time I played.

Most of the dialogue is great, and Hal can be pretty funny but also suitably frustrating. The thing is, at one point Lou suddenly starts telling me about her romantic history. To me this doesn't seem to fit with the rest of what's going. It seemed to come up out of the blue and I was honestly kind of uncomfortable with it. I wouldn't really expect that kind of behavior from any co-workers I've been working for a few weeks with in real life. Secondly, if I were to have kids in the future, I'd love to share this fun game with them, but now I wouldn't really be comfortable with that with this kind of material showing up.

I just think that this game would be just fine without that part of Lou's backstory. The game play is great, the story is pretty interesting, and great to have alongside the ship-breaking, but that part of Lou's dialogue just seemed out of place and not really necessary for the game.

[Adeptguy]

Originally posted by Andrew K:

Hello, I've been really enjoying this game. The game play is a lot of fun, and it's cool to have some interesting characters check in when starting a shift. The development with the administrator arriving and all that is an interesting addition as well that I don't remember from last time I played.

Most of the dialogue is great, and Hal can be pretty funny but also suitably frustrating. The thing is, at one point Lou suddenly starts telling me about her romantic history. To me this doesn't seem to fit with the rest of what's going. It seemed to come up out of the blue and I was honestly kind of uncomfortable with it. I wouldn't really expect that kind of behavior from any co-workers I've been working for a few weeks with in real life. Secondly, if I were to have kids in the future, I'd love to share this fun game with them, but now I wouldn't really be comfortable with that with this kind of material showing up.

I just think that this game would be just fine without that part of Lou's backstory. The game play is great, the story is pretty interesting, and great to have alongside the ship-breaking, but that part of Lou's dialogue just seemed out of place and not really necessary for the game.

Its just the modern devs pushing their woke agenda everywhere, dont worry, its "normal" these days. I read about this part coming up when I had to still get it, when it arrived I recognised it and just muted the whole conversation (sound off) and went to do something else for the next 2-3 minutes.

We shouldnt have to do this but here we are, having to suffer an obligated LGBT story in every modern game for the coming future. Hurray for politics in gaming. So fun.

[Fly]

Frankly, if a coworker started talking like that, I'd really have to ponder whether I should report them for sexual harrassment.

Imagine this being the other way 'round, some random guy telling the new woman in the team about his sexual exploits.

[Amuga]

Have you ever watched a movie where some guy had a drink or two and started reminiscing about some girl they left "back home" with their friend? because the alcohol made them feel a little nostalgic about the old days?

It's an ultra common trope in movies and stories, also a very common death flag in action movies (the whole showing the protagonist a picture of their sweetie back home, and how cute she was and the way she smiled, held them etc) how is that any different?

If any of you in the thread are playing it up because it's a woman and another woman consider going outside and touching some grass, not accusing you of that OP. This game openly mentions things about polyamory being a standard and referring to people as "they/them", I don't understand why that'd specifically bother you, specially if that in movies has never made you feel this sort of strangeness/outrage


Hope that helps

[Sushi Baka]

Originally posted by Adeptguy:

Originally posted by Andrew K:

Hello, I've been really enjoying this game. The game play is a lot of fun, and it's cool to have some interesting characters check in when starting a shift. The development with the administrator arriving and all that is an interesting addition as well that I don't remember from last time I played.

Most of the dialogue is great, and Hal can be pretty funny but also suitably frustrating. The thing is, at one point Lou suddenly starts telling me about her romantic history. To me this doesn't seem to fit with the rest of what's going. It seemed to come up out of the blue and I was honestly kind of uncomfortable with it. I wouldn't really expect that kind of behavior from any co-workers I've been working for a few weeks with in real life. Secondly, if I were to have kids in the future, I'd love to share this fun game with them, but now I wouldn't really be comfortable with that with this kind of material showing up.

I just think that this game would be just fine without that part of Lou's backstory. The game play is great, the story is pretty interesting, and great to have alongside the ship-breaking, but that part of Lou's dialogue just seemed out of place and not really necessary for the game.

Its just the modern devs pushing their woke agenda everywhere, dont worry, its "normal" these days. I read about this part coming up when I had to still get it, when it arrived I recognised it and just muted the whole conversation (sound off) and went to do something else for the next 2-3 minutes.

We shouldnt have to do this but here we are, having to suffer an obligated LGBT story in every modern game for the coming future. Hurray for politics in gaming. So fun.

If I had 1 dollar every time someone used the word "woke" correctly, I'd have massive debt.

[Adeptguy]

Originally posted by Fly:

Frankly, if a coworker started talking like that, I'd really have to ponder whether I should report them for sexual harrassment.

Imagine this being the other way 'round, some random guy telling the new woman in the team about his sexual exploits.

Yeah that wouldnt fly (pun intended).

[Dirty Belter]

I found Lou to be a very annoying character. I sincerely wish I could just tell her to shut up. I say this agreeing with what she says on the union stuff. She's just so condescending. If I worked with someone like her I would have made a complaint.

[Fly]

Originally posted by Adeptguy:

Originally posted by Fly:

Frankly, if a coworker started talking like that, I'd really have to ponder whether I should report them for sexual harrassment.

Imagine this being the other way 'round, some random guy telling the new woman in the team about his sexual exploits.

Yeah that wouldnt fly (pun intended).

That (expletive) would be reported for sexual harrassment and fired, and probably get into hot legal water.

And with good reason!

[Andrew K]

Originally posted by Amuga:

Have you ever watched a movie where some guy had a drink or two and started reminiscing about some girl they left "back home" with their friend? because the alcohol made them feel a little nostalgic about the old days?

It's an ultra common trope in movies and stories, also a very common death flag in action movies (the whole showing the protagonist a picture of their sweetie back home, and how cute she was and the way she smiled, held them etc) how is that any different?

If any of you in the thread are playing it up because it's a woman and another woman consider going outside and touching some grass, not accusing you of that OP. This game openly mentions things about polyamory being a standard and referring to people as "they/them", I don't understand why that'd specifically bother you, specially if that in movies has never made you feel this sort of strangeness/outrage
:B1:

Hope that helps

That's a good point, but the situation is very different I think. The characters aren't sitting down and having drinks with one another. It's more of a quick after-work radio call. Also the character we play as doesn't say anything in response. It feels like she's saying these things about her intimate relationships while leaving a message on the player's answering machine. I haven't ever seen something like that in a movie, and have yet to in real life.

Also part of it might be the same-sex themes, which I didn't actually see anywhere else, although you mention that it is present elsewhere. However I think I would still be pretty weirded out if she were talking about her romantic encounter with a man. My main problem here is just how explicit it is in the context that it is given. If she just said something like "I remember a girl I loved from that planet," I would probably just think to myself, "Okay, I have my own opinions about that, but let's carry on." It's just the out-of-place explicit nature of what is being said that irks me the most I believe.

[Terroristhawk]

Yeah, the dialogue is out of place.

[moshiwakeda]

I would have preferred the dialogue and "lore" of the characters to be part of an optional log. If I could switch to a menu and play one of the audiologs, then I definitely would have enjoyed all that content. Because I'd choose to listen out of interest.
I imagine a profile of each character with different background information that you unlock. Kind of like a "Fill in the blanks" meta game.
This would have framed the low quality writing in a meta progression system.

Instead, I had all that b-tier fiver commissioned dialogue shoved in my face and locking me out of menus. It's just .. not that good. Some artists are good on the side of the road, or in the subway station. I might stop and listen. I wouldn't buy a ticket to their show.

[Shiver]

The writing suffers from assuming that your character is good friends with all of the other co-workers. It was weird when Lou sent me that pro-union mail list when I knew her for all of 4 shifts. It was weird when Weaver gave me the keys to his broken dream ship, after 10 shifts. Things just kept getting weirder and weirder with how everyone was being best buds with me when I had interacted with each of them for maybe 30 minutes. Well, saying I interacted with them is straight up lying. I had only listened to them rambling and never actually said a word to any of them.

[Terroristhawk]

Originally posted by Shiver:

The writing suffers from assuming that your character is good friends with all of the other co-workers. It was weird when Lou sent me that pro-union mail list when I knew her for all of 4 shifts. It was weird when Weaver gave me the keys to his broken dream ship, after 10 shifts. Things just kept getting weirder and weirder with how everyone was being best buds with me when I had interacted with each of them for maybe 30 minutes. Well, saying I interacted with them is straight up lying. I had only listened to them rambling and never actually said a word to any of them.

Yes, bad writing, I also reacted, why is he giving me this?

[sebasnx1]

Originally posted by Andrew K:

It seemed to come up out of the blue and I was honestly kind of uncomfortable with it.

... You are uncomfortable with the idea of kissing? Because that is literally all that she describes, that they kissed once. She even explicitly mentions that they didn't have sex, so I am absolutely clueless as to what you find objectionable or unsuitable for children about this. She reminisces about missed opportunities, which is extremely normal for someone who is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ place like the Shipbreakers are. it is very contiguous with the themes and characters, so what is really bothering you?

[sebasnx1]

Originally posted by Adeptguy:

Originally posted by Andrew K:

Hello, I've been really enjoying this game. The game play is a lot of fun, and it's cool to have some interesting characters check in when starting a shift. The development with the administrator arriving and all that is an interesting addition as well that I don't remember from last time I played.

Most of the dialogue is great, and Hal can be pretty funny but also suitably frustrating. The thing is, at one point Lou suddenly starts telling me about her romantic history. To me this doesn't seem to fit with the rest of what's going. It seemed to come up out of the blue and I was honestly kind of uncomfortable with it. I wouldn't really expect that kind of behavior from any co-workers I've been working for a few weeks with in real life. Secondly, if I were to have kids in the future, I'd love to share this fun game with them, but now I wouldn't really be comfortable with that with this kind of material showing up.

I just think that this game would be just fine without that part of Lou's backstory. The game play is great, the story is pretty interesting, and great to have alongside the ship-breaking, but that part of Lou's dialogue just seemed out of place and not really necessary for the game.

Its just the modern devs pushing their woke agenda everywhere, dont worry, its "normal" these days. I read about this part coming up when I had to still get it, when it arrived I recognised it and just muted the whole conversation (sound off) and went to do something else for the next 2-3 minutes.

We shouldnt have to do this but here we are, having to suffer an obligated LGBT story in every modern game for the coming future. Hurray for politics in gaming. So fun.

How is it an agenda to have a gay character, who literally only mentions that once, in passing, they kissed a girl? are you that much of a fragile snowflake?

[Dirty Belter]

Originally posted by sebasnx1:

Originally posted by Adeptguy:

Its just the modern devs pushing their woke agenda everywhere, dont worry, its "normal" these days. I read about this part coming up when I had to still get it, when it arrived I recognised it and just muted the whole conversation (sound off) and went to do something else for the next 2-3 minutes.

We shouldnt have to do this but here we are, having to suffer an obligated LGBT story in every modern game for the coming future. Hurray for politics in gaming. So fun.

How is it an agenda to have a gay character, who literally only mentions that once, in passing, they kissed a girl? are you that much of a fragile snowflake?

I agree with you but I wouldn't exactly call it in passing. You're forced to listen to as you can't go to sleep or start a new shift till she's done. She talks about her kiss in details that I wouldn't expect in my workplace. If I were to walk up to the new guy where I work and tell him about some extra thicc twink that I saw at a truck stop one time and proceeded to spend a whole minute describing how I was hot dogging his voluptuous arse then I'd get sent to HR and rightfully so. It's not an agenda but it wasn't a passing remark like "you remind me of this girl in dated a while back". I just wish I could skip dialog, then I wouldn't mind as much.