Crusader Kings III

Crusader Kings III

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Banane Mar 12, 2022 @ 6:08am
Now what? Where late game?
What to do after you're done rising through ranks and done painting the map?

Im like mid-late game 1200somethingish
I've already done everything I've set out to.

1)Recreated the very holy and very roman and very imperical empire.
-Successfully finished a crusade, maxed out house prestige, created my own faith, my own culture, have the nr.1 court in the world

2) As emperor/empire I am strong enough so that the AI practically never declares any wars.
And if they do I squish them like a bug.
Like it would be cool if opposing large empires were still dangerous or like the mongols could be set to catastrophic level and you would have to fight them or something.

3) Conquering just for the sake of conquering feels a bit too repetitive and boring to me.

4) Basically I can only watch my character age for about 200 in game years and fight the occasional peasant rebellion?

5) Theres no challenge anymore. Ok fine. So instead you roleplay maybe? But how?

Am I missing something?
Or is there just nothing interesting enough to pass the time?

What do I mean, like in CK2 you could make a witch covent and stuff, you know, secondairy decisions that you could spend some time with. Theres nothing of this sort in game yet?

6) I already tried to play as "historical" and "roleplay-ish" as possible. I would only press claims that I directly gained through marriage or for family members, would take personality traits into account. Started as a no-one from day 1.
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AC Denton Mar 12, 2022 @ 6:18am 
That's the thing with these games.
You set a goal and complete it, then you've won.
The games timeline of 867 to 1453 and 1444-1821 in EU4 are not really meant to be played in it's entirety, it's merely there to provide you a setting and enough time to achieve your goals.
CK3 specifically has different bookmark times because of this, you pick one and do what you want. The goal and end of this game is whatever you want it to be.

I recommend checking out some mods such as:
Asia Expansion, which well, adds the rest of Asia.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2706635752

or Princes of Darkness, a complete overhaul of the world set in the World of Darkness / Vampire the Masquerade. Malkavian, Ventrue, Nosferatu, Camarilla, managing blood hunger and the masquerade, everything.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2216659254
Last edited by AC Denton; Mar 12, 2022 @ 6:33am
shiggies713 Mar 12, 2022 @ 6:43am 
There's things you could do, forming a witch coven is actually in ck3. You could try to strengthen your bloodline or get dynasty of many crowns, or try to chase down some wild achievements.
avil Mar 12, 2022 @ 7:54am 
Try playing for achievements. All games end up the same unless you have a strict objective.
Observer Mar 12, 2022 @ 8:13am 
play with/against people, next step
CaptainSpacetime Mar 12, 2022 @ 10:50am 
same as any paradox game. you won, start a new campaign.
shiggies713 Mar 12, 2022 @ 11:52am 
Also unless you've been anointed Chakravarti and been declared the rightful ruler of the entire world, you didn't win yet. LOL
Yaldabaoth Mar 12, 2022 @ 12:27pm 
You have painted the map, now do something fun. Limit yourself to only learning focus for 10 rulers. Or get one kingdom only and get your dynasty on as many thrones as possible via marriage.
DinoMight (Banned) Mar 12, 2022 @ 1:16pm 
Originally posted by AC Denton:
That's the thing with these games.
You set a goal and complete it, then you've won.
The games timeline of 867 to 1453 and 1444-1821 in EU4 are not really meant to be played in it's entirety, it's merely there to provide you a setting and enough time to achieve your goals.
CK3 specifically has different bookmark times because of this, you pick one and do what you want. The goal and end of this game is whatever you want it to be.

oh but thats where you are wrong, specifically with EU4

its true that eu4 doesnt have a "specific goal" or clear progression rather, but it has well developed late game, which age of enlightenment represents, it actually has a progression and ladder through which game leads you, and changes itself to accommodate the new technologies and new enemies because even though its late game, often there is some enemy that can rival you in strength

in CK3, there is no such thing, once you become kingdom and get certain traits, and high enough stewardship in your bloodline, (which is like after a second ruler)
you become unstoppable force, there is nobody to rival you, and basically you have seen all that game has to offer, more or less, youve seen all events and your gameplay wont diverge from what it was with your first ruler

so no CK3 is very lackluster and that is not "the thing with these games"
Last edited by DinoMight; Mar 12, 2022 @ 1:33pm
DinoMight (Banned) Mar 12, 2022 @ 1:20pm 
thats the point man, there is no late game

thats one of the core issues among many with this game, its the same problem that imperator: rome has, and thats why many people claim this game is boring, even after new dlc and content added (which is very little content btw)

game is extremely shallow and lackluster, and it quickly becomes boring

you have basically seen everything this game has to offer, thats why you are even asking this question

and thats why first comment, even the one that is defending this lackluster piece of excrement, is still refering you to mods

so yea if you want anything meaningful you and more content, you will have to look at mods, so 50+ eur dont go to waste

or just wait till they add more stuff to a game

edit: although princess of darkness really is a good mod, if you are into world of darkness stuff and lore, have to credit the creators, this mod singlehandedly gave me over 100 hours of gameplay, which is more than a base game (which tells you everything about it)
Last edited by DinoMight; Mar 12, 2022 @ 1:25pm
Pocket Medic Mar 12, 2022 @ 1:36pm 
Originally posted by DinoMight:
Originally posted by AC Denton:
That's the thing with these games.
You set a goal and complete it, then you've won.
The games timeline of 867 to 1453 and 1444-1821 in EU4 are not really meant to be played in it's entirety, it's merely there to provide you a setting and enough time to achieve your goals.
CK3 specifically has different bookmark times because of this, you pick one and do what you want. The goal and end of this game is whatever you want it to be.

oh but thats where you are wrong, specifically with EU4

its true that eu4 doesnt have a "specific goal" or clear progression rather, but it has well developed late game, which age of enlightenment represents, it actually has a progression and ladder through which game leads you, and changes itself to accommodate the new technologies and new enemies because even though its late game, often there is some enemy that can rival you in strength

in CK3, there is no such thing, once you become kingdom and get certain traits, and high enough stewardship in your bloodline, (which is like after a second ruler)
you become unstoppable force, there is nobody to rival you, and basically you have seen all that game has to offer, more or less, youve seen all events and your gameplay wont diverge from what it was with your first ruler

so no CK3 is very lackluster and that is not "the thing with these games"
By the end of EU4 you can have like 1000s of dev more than your next competitor in like 200 years playing casually. There is no way that you can say that EU4 has challenges in the late game.
Uncle Supplies Mar 12, 2022 @ 1:39pm 
Start impregnating your great-great granddaughters and watch the freakshow
DinoMight (Banned) Mar 12, 2022 @ 1:41pm 
Originally posted by Pocket Medic:
Originally posted by DinoMight:

oh but thats where you are wrong, specifically with EU4

its true that eu4 doesnt have a "specific goal" or clear progression rather, but it has well developed late game, which age of enlightenment represents, it actually has a progression and ladder through which game leads you, and changes itself to accommodate the new technologies and new enemies because even though its late game, often there is some enemy that can rival you in strength

in CK3, there is no such thing, once you become kingdom and get certain traits, and high enough stewardship in your bloodline, (which is like after a second ruler)
you become unstoppable force, there is nobody to rival you, and basically you have seen all that game has to offer, more or less, youve seen all events and your gameplay wont diverge from what it was with your first ruler

so no CK3 is very lackluster and that is not "the thing with these games"
By the end of EU4 you can have like 1000s of dev more than your next competitor in like 200 years playing casually. There is no way that you can say that EU4 has challenges in the late game.

tbh i stopped playing eu4 before they added all those new dlcs that let you become futuristic superpower in 18th century, but aside from that, game is still wy more challenging than ck3, because in ck3 there is no challenge after less than a 100 years, not 200, and eu4 actually does have content, ck2 too
Lichtgestalt Mar 12, 2022 @ 3:07pm 
I like to setup independent kingdoms with my faith and culture instead of painting map. Preferably ruled by my dynasty. You can watch what they are doing to each other and interact with them. That often leads to some fun stories.
endymionologist Mar 12, 2022 @ 3:12pm 
I want to paraphrase what I think others have already told you in a way that I think will help:
You've already done the endgame content.

Getting an Empire is winning the game, everything after that is endgame or postgame content. Is it odd that so much of a game's running time is post-victory? Sure, but that's how games are these days.
Dillinius Sandar Mar 12, 2022 @ 5:31pm 
Make a son a vassal and play as them, start a civil war, conspire. I feel like people forget that playing as a vassal can be just as fun as leading an empire.
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