Duchy Management

[Isundil]

I don't understand how to manage duchies.

When I go to my vassal tab, I have several vassals who say I'm not their rightful liege because they belong to some duchy.

I create that duchy. But then I get told that I hold too many duchies.

If I give the title to the person who wants me to be their rightful liege, I gain stress (perhaps because my character is just?). If I give it to someone else (AI-recommended), the original character still has a tax/levy penalty since I'm not their rightful liege. In both cases, the number of levies I can raise tends to go down after I grant the duchy to someone else.

Is there something I'm missing here?

[corisai]

1) Are you King/Emperor?

[titanopteryx]

To get the full amount of taxes from a vassal, you need to hold the title that their title is in. If they're a count, you need the title for the duchy they're in. If they're a duke, you need the title for the kingdom they're in. You have a limit to how many duchies you can personally own of 2. Well, own without penalty. You can own more but you get penalties to courtier opinions and tax income. So if you have too many duchies, you need to try to get the kingdom they're in and then give some duchies in the kingdom to vassals. Well you can keep 2 duchies. Without penalty.

[mortache]

It will be an issue until you get their dejure kingdom or empire. Just bear it for the moment and prepare to get 50% of the dejure kingdom. Actually this issue was also present in CK2, just not displayed as easily.

[BoydofZINJ]

On the bottom right there are icons to see the map a specific way. If you click on the Duchy tab, then you will see what counties belong within a specific duchy. If your highest title is duchy and you do not have an empire or kingdom - then you will need to be a duchy over a vassal to be the "rightful liege." If you capture any lands or counties outside of your duchy or duchies - then those counties will be outside your rightful liege range as well. If you have a kingdom title, then your kingdom will have a specific length as well. If you have land outside that kingdom ... you will have the same problem.

[AlexMBrennan]

Is there something I'm missing here?

Yes, you need to dispose of greedy heirs who prevent you from managing titles effectively before they can inherit. .

[Isundil]

Originally posted by corisai:

1) Are you King/Emperor?

I'm Emperor of Brittannia and King of Ireland.

[BoydofZINJ]

Originally posted by Isundil:

Originally posted by corisai:

1) Are you King/Emperor?

I'm Emperor of Brittannia and King of Ireland.

Then you should be the rightful liege for the vast majority of counties within the island of Britain.

[Ron Bison]

Okay. When you're a duke, you can hold as many duchies as you want. You can have 100 duchies, no penalty. As soon as you upgrade to king, your duchy limit becomes 2. Any more than that, and your vassals are pissed that you're hoarding all the power. Pass the duchies off to somebody else, and the counts in those duchies will become vassals of the duke, and the duke will become your vassal. And as long as you're the de jure king of that duchy, your vassal will give you taxes and levies according to your arrangement with them, and the counts will give your duke the taxes and levies according to THEIR arrangements. Make sense?

[Commodus]

Duchy limit on Emperors should be 3, i can see why its not higher, late game upgrading stuff becomes monotonous.

[CrUsHeR]

Generally, the feudal pyramid needs to be fully intact in CK3.

Emperor > King > Duke > Count.

So if a Count is a direct vassal to a King, he won't like that and also give reduced levies and taxes.

Also every vassal title outside of your de jure top titles will have the same. Example having all Dukes of Scotland as vassals, while being King of Ireland (but not of Scotland). You needed to personally hold the Kingdom of Scotland to avoid that.