Crusades

[johnbecool]

is there witness of a sucessful crusade ?

i personally never witnessed a crusade ending up in a win....

but i witnessed a lot of croissanetrie.... the muslim equivalent be successful almost: the name crusader kngs should be change to: the rise of islam .... like a beteme coit allah which have found the humans and wants to destroy them with its insects .... ( starship troopers )à

[angel of derp]

Generally speaking, redirect the early Crusades in the 867 start. Allow time for the Abbasids to collapse on themselves and build up Christendom. The Abbasid start isn't the best, and sometimes it's worse than others (depending on how strong & irritable the vassals are).

Crusading to Poland or somewhere close by, so that you can build the Catholic population. A walk-in from Germany is much easier than a boat drop into the Levant at the early stages of an 867 start.

Once you've redirected and won a few early Crusades, then it's much easier. If you can take Spain and North Africa (either the regular way or by Crusade), then it's super easy.

I've gotten as far as Makran (Persia) via Crusades? I think that's the furthest I've won a Crusader Kingdom.

Here's one of the previous steps, where I took the Kingdom of Arabia? Always a fun Crusade, that one...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2287620992

[♠ FallenSoul [O.S.S]]

Originally posted by johnbecool:

is there witness of a sucessful crusade ?

i personally never witnessed a crusade ending up in a win....

but i witnessed a lot of croissanetrie.... the muslim equivalent be successful almost: the name crusader kngs should be change to: the rise of islam .... like a beteme coit allah which have found the humans and wants to destroy them with its insects .... ( starship troopers )à

Multiple times for me

[johnbecool]

Originally posted by AmesNFire:

Originally posted by glythe:

Easiest way is when you build an army that solo the enemy force by yourself.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2767851158

I get you want to help people but considering how you specifically adjust the game rules and build an OP character it's rather misleading to say it's a combat guide.

thx quite useful

[Fürst von Schmettermich]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Well i don't think the crusades failing is any sort of "issue" with the game they need to fix.

In fact there was one big issue in the vanilla version after release; the crusades would always succeed, and the player would always be rank#1 in the score.

Even if you only sent some mercs to instantly die after landing, chances were you got enough score. Perhaps also steal a siege by moving your 500 guys there first. Then let the AI doomstack do the rest.

Luckily that isn't how it works anymore.

not the crusades themselves but the AI behaviour. Could have easily won the last crusade as the main enemy force was split and one war roaming away from the crusaders. However, the AI just decided to not get involved and just go beach-ship-beach-ship-beach-ship-jerusalem-beach-ship while the crusaders forces outnumbered to remaining enemy forces 2:1 could habe ben the decision, AI just kept surfing the arabian waves.

[TurtleShroom]

I saw the Jerusalemite Crusade work in my game. The only thing that bothers me about it is that it took two hundred years for the FIRST EVER Crusade to fire.

[AmesNFire]

Originally posted by TurtleShroom:

I saw the Jerusalemite Crusade work in my game. The only thing that bothers me about it is that it took two hundred years for the FIRST EVER Crusade to fire.

If you started in 867 then yeah, crusades won't start for roughly 200 years.

[Uhrenkerl]

How are you losing GHW you are a part of? I usually beat them all by myself with my MaA shocktroop

[TurtleShroom]

Originally posted by AmesNFire:

If you started in 867 then yeah, crusades won't start for roughly 200 years.

It took four hundred for me. The game announced that Crusades were available, but no Crusade was called until the mid-1200's AD.

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by AmesNFire:

If you started in 867 then yeah, crusades won't start for roughly 200 years.

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Warfare#Unlocking_Great_Holy_Wars

Can happen any time, basically.

[DinoMight]

Originally posted by Monkey89brains:

Crusade to Jerusalem? No, never seen a successful one, AI likes to attack in waves and always gets crushed by the Islamic doom stack that just marches up and down the coast smacking Christian armies one at a time. The only crusades I have seen work are late game ones on some random Dukedom that converted to Adamite or something.

same

[dwarfpcfan]

I've never had a single offensive crusade be successful in any playthrought I've done. In my fully completed norse empire playthrough (played from 867 and ended with the 1453 end date and roll credits) I've had rulers with no less then 3 crusades launched against them in their single life time and I utterly crushed them every times, similar things with other playthroughs.

[AmesNFire]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Originally posted by AmesNFire:

If you started in 867 then yeah, crusades won't start for roughly 200 years.

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Warfare#Unlocking_Great_Holy_Wars

Can happen any time, basically.

For Catholicism, only Jerusalem starts as controlled by a non-Catholic ruler.

Catholic Holy Sites:
1. Jerusalem
2. Rome
3. Cologne
4. Santiago
5. Canterbury

For the Papacy to unlock Crusades before 1095* things have to have gone rather horribly for "Christiandom" in general in either start. As in the ERE can't be christian or has lost major territory after 1000 AD, or various west/northern europe locations that started Catholic to no longer be Christian after 800 AD.

Technically if Rome was taken at any point by a non-Christian then that would immediately unlock the Crusades for Catholic rulers.

*After 1095 all previous unlocking triggers exist but if Jerusalem is not Christian then it unlocks the Crusades.

[El lobo]

Since the last update I havent seen the crusaders win. And I have played the last few games as a muslim ruler in the region, so I have a relatively big sample size. I also didnt get involved into the crusades, as I wanted them to succeed so that they would make my games more interresting.