Protecting Artifacts

[sircharleythecat]

Anyone else getting annoyed by having to constantly reload your game because the AI constantly steal your artifacts? Sometimes you can't duel for them, or stealing them back can sometimes very hard. And once you got it back someone else steals it again.

Is there some way to protect the artifacts? Guards or anything? Can an exceptionally good antiquarian protect it? And how would I get such a person? This is really a never ending issues.

[Nordic]

Antiquarian, is part of the answer the better this one is the more protected they are, to get them hire those who completed an Inspiration, got high learning, are shy and/or are got Administrator skill, along with put your Marshal (with hopefully high skill) on Manage Royal Guards.

[dannyvader007]

For some reason court physicians become excellent antiquarians.

What I do first is I make my daughter a physician with the learning lifestyle, and then after she gains a few physician traits like wise woman, miracle worker, novice physician and renowned physician, I appoint her as my antiquarian and then revoke her court physician position.

Courtiers with stewardship also make good antiquarians, even the courtiers with diplomacy traits. However, courtiers with intrigue traits and intrigue lifestyle tend to do poor at being antiquarians.

[sircharleythecat]

Thanks for the advise. I haven't found better than average so far.

[Mommy's Good Boy]

Originally posted by sircharleythecat:

Anyone else getting annoyed by having to constantly reload your game because the AI constantly steal your artifacts? Sometimes you can't duel for them, or stealing them back can sometimes very hard. And once you got it back someone else steals it again.

Is there some way to protect the artifacts? Guards or anything? Can an exceptionally good antiquarian protect it? And how would I get such a person? This is really a never ending issues.

Never had this issue.

[dannyvader007]

Originally posted by sircharleythecat:

Thanks for the advise. I haven't found better than average so far.

Maybe stop letting your capital barony being sieged.

[sircharleythecat]

Sieged? I'm not at war. They simply steal artifacts through intrigue plots. Then I have to either duel them or steal it back.

[titanopteryx]

How much intrigue does your spymaster have? And is he set to disrupt schemes?

[sircharleythecat]

Always set to disrupt. The current one about 15, I think. Sometimes higher or lower. I once had a spymaster who stole one of the artifacts, but I just arrested him and demanded to have it back.

[dannyvader007]

Originally posted by sircharleythecat:

Always set to disrupt. The current one about 15, I think. Sometimes higher or lower. I once had a spymaster who stole one of the artifacts, but I just arrested him and demanded to have it back.

Spymasters with 15 points of intrigue do very, very poor at disrupting schemes, any type of schemes, they take a long time to discover schemes and they end up missing most of the schemes against you and your courtiers. The best spymasters have 23 intrigue and up.

[Moose_knuckle]

Never really had this problem. The artifact system does need tweaking though because it gets a bit annoying when you have to remember to constantly repair them all, especially in the late game,

[PostalGibbon]

I had my legendary dynasty banner nicked by some neighboring independent king of my dynasty.
I did ask him nicely: "Would you please give my banner back or do i send iron to border and drown your realm in blood and burn everything to the ground". He did give banner back holding it one day and have never tried to steal it again.

[sircharleythecat]

My current one got 20, and my marshal got about that number too, my spouse helps with intrigues, and I still have to reload in an endless loop of having an important ring stolen over and over again by the same guy after having to fight a duel to keep it away from another one. And I have too little fame to duel the guy who steals it afterwards. And my reload is several years back, and the scheme is apparently already started, and there is nothing I can do. Except repeating what I'm doing and hoping that he eventually fails at some point, or the I somehow manage to earn 600 fame through some kind of miracle.

I have even started to consider abdicating and risking a civil war in hope that my hair has enough fame to duel for the artifact once it's stolen.

[dannyvader007]

Originally posted by sircharleythecat:

My current one got 20, and my marshal got about that number too, my spouse helps with intrigues, and I still have to reload in an endless loop of having an important ring stolen over and over again by the same guy after having to fight a duel to keep it away from another one. And I have too little fame to duel the guy who steals it afterwards. And my reload is several years back, and the scheme is apparently already started, and there is nothing I can do. Except repeating what I'm doing and hoping that he eventually fails at some point, or the I somehow manage to earn 600 fame through some kind of miracle.

I have even started to consider abdicating and risking a civil war in hope that my hair has enough fame to duel for the artifact once it's stolen.

You must have super cool artifacts.

Nobody tries to steal my artifacts and they are decent. Honestly, the only thing that happens is my kinsmen Vassals always demand artifacts from me, but I just decline them or ignore them. They might not try to steal my artifacts because I always have a very high dread and my spymaster is frequently a brother, cousin or a very loyal vassal that has 100 plus opinion of me. Technically, all my vassals are my brothers, grandchildren, nephews or grandfathers and brothers at the same time and we are all inbred unless we are pureblooded. Hence they have claims on all my artifacts, which I can't prevent because we're all completely related, but they only demand my artifacts, they don't attempt to steal them from me.

No type of foreign ruler has a real claim on my artifacts unless they purchase a claim.

But honestly, I don't have to be stealing artifacts or being jealous for artifacts because I just focus on creating my own artifacts and upgrading the in battles or with my antiquarian.

[sircharleythecat]

Yes, two really nice artifacts. Purple kind. One which reduces stress gain by 25%, and one which greatly increases my health, allowing me go stay young for much longer. That's why I don't want to lose them.

I managed to fix my issues with two mods now.

One which nerfs how much characters loose in disposition, depending on how rare the artifact is. The finest remains unchanged. They also have a few years cool down in order to not have a artifact demand spam from the same character.

And I just got a mod which nerfs intrigue by making the defender's intrigue matter more when defending against plots. That would also make it harder for me to succeed with my plots, which seems fair. And it seems that the thief actually abandoned his plot this time, so I can finally stop reloading.

[dannyvader007]

Originally posted by sircharleythecat:

Yes, two really nice artifacts. Purple kind. One which reduces stress gain by 25%, and one which greatly increases my health, allowing me go stay young for much longer. That's why I don't want to lose them.

I managed to fix my issues with two mods now.

One which nerfs how much characters loose in disposition, depending on how rare the artifact is. The finest remains unchanged. They also have a few years cool down in order to not have a artifact demand spam from the same character.

And I just got a mod which nerfs intrigue by making the defender's intrigue matter more when defending against plots. That would also make it harder for me to succeed with my plots, which seems fair. And it seems that the thief actually abandoned his plot this time, so I can finally stop reloading.

Don't you have to make a new game when you get a new mod?