Problem with female preference

[MiguelCairo]

I am trying Makuria which is female preference and my dynasty members are marrying off their daughters (principal heirs) in patrilineal marriages all across the board. My matrilineal marriage rule is set to default. Is this a bug? Or would being coptic have anything to do with it even though the realm law is set to female preference?

[titanopteryx]

There's 2 factors that come into play: Religion and culture. You need a religion that's not male dominated too. I might be wrong but I think if culture is female dominated and religion is male dominated, religion wins.

[MiguelCairo]

as sad as i am if this is true, it also kinda makes sense. just weird from a design standpoint to have female preference realm with a male dominated religion... kinda feels weird which sucks because the nubians are really interesting... have a unique cultural tradition only to them and also lots of flood plains with unique buildings

[kalanyr]

Warrior Queens as currently implemented is terrible, because it gives you the worst features of Female Preference and Male Dominated as opposed to the benefits. I really want to do a mod to make it not awful, but it's kinda hard to find a good way of doing that (giving females strong claims and allowing unlanded females to receive titles would be a good start, allowing male rulers to be non-monogamous would probably also be good (for Daju) considering all the starting rulers are male and they currently get hamstrung by this).

[MiguelCairo]

Originally posted by kalanyr:

Warrior Queens as currently implemented is terrible, because it gives you the worst features of Female Preference and Male Dominated as opposed to the benefits. I really want to do a mod to make it not awful, but it's kinda hard to find a good way of doing that (giving females strong claims and allowing unlanded females to receive titles would be a good start, allowing male rulers to be non-monogamous would probably also be good (for Daju) considering all the starting rulers are male and they currently get hamstrung by this).

my work around for this is to create a starting ethiopian character (to start with male preference realm) then culture switch to nubian. It's not a way to use warrior queens as a whole unfortunately but I at least get female knights with coptic. The only other feasible way I can see to make warrior queens work with the starting character would be to convert to bori...

[dannyvader007]

Originally posted by MiguelCairo:

I am trying Makuria which is female preference and my dynasty members are marrying off their daughters (principal heirs) in patrilineal marriages all across the board. My matrilineal marriage rule is set to default. Is this a bug? Or would being coptic have anything to do with it even though the realm law is set to female preference?

I have played with female preference to try out the experience and all I can say is "It's thw worst way to play in CK3." I don't recommend top play with female preference. I had a hard time in war because all my daughter were being slained in battles and it was just annoying because I couldn't do anything with males. Males just became useless.

[garthurbrown]

Nerd aside, the Nubians didn't actually have female rulers BUT the dynasty passed through the female line. So, the Kings sister's oldest son would take the throne, and the queen-mother was highly revered.

[titanopteryx]

Originally posted by MiguelCairo:

Originally posted by kalanyr:

Warrior Queens as currently implemented is terrible, because it gives you the worst features of Female Preference and Male Dominated as opposed to the benefits. I really want to do a mod to make it not awful, but it's kinda hard to find a good way of doing that (giving females strong claims and allowing unlanded females to receive titles would be a good start, allowing male rulers to be non-monogamous would probably also be good (for Daju) considering all the starting rulers are male and they currently get hamstrung by this).

my work around for this is to create a starting ethiopian character (to start with male preference realm) then culture switch to nubian. It's not a way to use warrior queens as a whole unfortunately but I at least get female knights with coptic. The only other feasible way I can see to make warrior queens work with the starting character would be to convert to bori...

I just started a game as this character to see what's up. He seems to be the culture head. I'm planning on switching out that prowess -2 tradition for Right to Prove. In theory this should be an alternative way of getting female knights but I need to test it. I'll use the console to give myself the prestige but it still takes 31 years before I can see if it works.

Edit: I already can have female knights... However the shieldmaiden trait should make them stronger.

Edit 2: I just made a shieldmaiden daughter. So slotting in Right to Prove should allow you to make your daughters into mighty knights.

[Grymogen]

I have a Coptic empire spanning Nubia, Egypt and Arabia. Nubia has a female queen of Nubian culture that I appointed. I haven't noticed any issues with female preference, but then again, I have taken advantage of bethrothing my heir's third son to the Nubian queen's first female daughter. I wonder 🤔. Will keep a closer eye on their dynasty to see what is happening with unintended patrilineal marriages.