Shortest (or typical length) CK game?

[spasti696969]

So a couple people are already wrapping up their first Victoria runs and that seemed really fast to me. CK runs usually take a few weeks for me at least. What's the fastest you've ever finished a campaign? As in actually gotten to 1453 BTW, obviously if you quit after a few years it won't be a very long run.

[Kimlin]

Originally posted by Yhvh10:

Originally posted by Kimlin:

I finished my first two runs one 867 and one 1066. Did both in the same month.

In Vicky 3 you could potentially just hit go on speed 5 and be done fairly fast. I am almost a third done with my first run with about 12 hours played. I know some players have 30 hours or more playing time.

Tips on how you stayed focused and not bored for so long on one game in CK3?

It was extremely fun the first few runs when I Hadn’t mastered every aspect of the game. I was also playing more like EU4 than how I play now.

First run was 1066 start and I was pretty terrible. My goal was to take over the western side of the map. I took over Britain, France and ran into a brick wall going into Spain. I was just learning so everything was new and fun.

Second run I started in Ireland again but in 867. Raiding was fun and I was tribal and some Christian religion, that allowed me to Holy war like crazy. Being tribal was more exciting since I didn’t have to wait for claim fabrication. I ran through Britain, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland by the mid 950s. Then I made the most of going feudal, that made the game a slog. I just stuck with it and took over the Rus area, flowed down to the Holy lands, west to the Atlantic then I took out Byzantine and the rest of Europe restoring the Roman Empire.

I was pretty bored and done with each run well before the end date but I just stuck it out.

[hurepoix]

Originally posted by Yhvh10:

Tips on how you stayed focused and not bored for so long on one game in CK3?

I dont know how Kimlin, do, But I can say, how I do to make games a bit longer. I play it a bit more historical. I slighly modified some game parameter, so intel trait are no more genetically inheritable. I lowered the number of fief you can handle. I removed some skills such as restraint or know thyself (simpler is to not use it). I also ignore suidice and desinherit (except grave crime like when a son attempt to murdered me).

However all of this is only common sense, and often peoples who complain about a too easy and boring game are the first to exploit and over use ludicrous game s tools and flaws.

[spasti696969]

For me it takes such a long time because I really like the character relationships and watching them age. I love clicking around and seeing who killed Duke Walden in battle and where Duke Walden came from before my knight chopped his head off. The kind of stuff they would never do on stream because people would get bored.

If I really wanted to crush the game I could probably get it done in a reasonable amount of time, especially since by the mid game it's just "win more". 20,000 troops vs 80,000, you're never going to lose that war.

[LordSith]

around 250h for a 867-end date.

[Twelvefield]

Originally posted by spasti696969:

My girlfriend even calls this "the baby clicking game", lol

She's a keeper, my friend.

[Yhvh10]

Originally posted by Stormbringer:

Originally posted by Yhvh10:

Tips on how you stayed focused and not bored for so long on one game in CK3?

When i did my 1453 run,i set Achievement Goals to stave off the monotony.
Legacy to last the ages Monumental Name known thru-out the world
Beacon of progress End of an era
Just by makin it to 1453 you'll get those,but..
What Nepotism & True Tolerance & the RC Culture & Arte Achieves will keep ya busy & you should be able to get most of 'em,as long as you start in 867.
But i dont envy ya'll. It felt like a real slog. I remember puttin it on 5-speed for last 2 years

It shouldnt feel like that.

We need more systems to interact with. More events, not events like "Someone got into the cookie jar" but something more akin to crisis or major events that reshape empires.

Someone should make a thread outlining different ideas for PDX to tap into (not that they care much)

[spasti696969]

Originally posted by Yhvh10:

Someone should make a thread outlining different ideas for PDX to tap into (not that they care much)

I think they comb the forums when they're bored and the boss is demanding new ideas. I know I would, lol

[spasti696969]

Originally posted by RealDealBreaker:

I find I am much less motivated to complete a game when I can only play a little bit at a time, such as only an hour or so a day or a couple hours every few days. Every game I have completed has been over a holiday weekend or over vacation.

I can see that, When I step away for awhile and forget the particulars of each duchy, cadet branch etc., it loses the magic.

[spasti696969]

Originally posted by Stormbringer:

Originally posted by spasti696969:

For me it takes such a long time because I really like the character relationships and watching them age.

Yeah,& creating & following bloodlines,like "I remember when your great-grandaddy was a rowdy 8yr old bastard in my dungeon,now lookit you,the Duke of Burgundy"

I love looking through the family trees. I found Mohammad once. He's just a giant green and gold symbol.

[Yhvh10]

Originally posted by spasti696969:

Originally posted by Yhvh10:

Someone should make a thread outlining different ideas for PDX to tap into (not that they care much)

I think they comb the forums when they're bored and the boss is demanding new ideas. I know I would, lol

Yeah. Someone should make a thread offering up advice.

[nikdonikde]

Originally posted by hurepoix:

Originally posted by Yhvh10:

Tips on how you stayed focused and not bored for so long on one game in CK3?

I dont know how Kimlin, do, But I can say, how I do to make games a bit longer. I play it a bit more historical. I slighly modified some game parameter, so intel trait are no more genetically inheritable. I lowered the number of fief you can handle. I removed some skills such as restraint or know thyself (simpler is to not use it). I also ignore suidice and desinherit (except grave crime like when a son attempt to murdered me).

However all of this is only common sense, and often peoples who complain about a too easy and boring game are the first to exploit and over use ludicrous game s tools and flaws.

Heh, reason why I stopped playing CK2. After I just known every exploit or cheesy ahistorical way how to win I just wasn't able to stop using them. So when I known it doesn't matter how small I start I can always ''win'', only challenge left was just bad RNG and dying first year in the game out of sudden with 18 years old character.

What developers should do is making vassals harded to manage (should have been done in Royal Court really). I don't know if I have selective memory but keeping kingdom together was much harder in CK2. Another thing which needs to be add are more serious illnesses, children mortality, etc. There is so much health modifiers that I feel my character always live to his 60-70. In CK2 you could die next month while being fine previous one.

End-game crisis will be good, however this falls out on AI which wouldn't be able to manage Mongol Empire or wouldn't care to expand faster in Europe but I hope it can be implemented somehow. I also loved plague mechanics in that reaper DLC it really wreck havoc on your kingdom and AI ones, again destabilizing what AI and player build.

Last thing which I don't have clear idea how it should work would be making empires just pain to manage. Bringing that external struggle of being duke or count inside of your empire. But like I said no idea in what way.

[spasti696969]

Originally posted by nikdonikde:

Originally posted by hurepoix:

However all of this is only common sense, and often peoples who complain about a too easy and boring game are the first to exploit and over use ludicrous game s tools and flaws.

Heh, reason why I stopped playing CK2. After I just known every exploit or cheesy ahistorical way how to win I just wasn't able to stop using them. So when I known it doesn't matter how small I start I can always ''win'', only challenge left was just bad RNG and dying first year in the game out of sudden with 18 years old character.

I remember I read a thing once where they said when they make the AI "better" it exploits obvious loopholes or clearly superior strategies like a player would, and players don't like it. All of the AIs play in the same manner instead of having unique personalities, they're constantly trading with each other to optimize their resources, etc. So even though players SAY they want a better AI, they actually don't. They actually want an AI which roleplays the personality it's given.

[spasti696969]

Originally posted by Stormbringer:

The other two i hadta create a ruler for were Volva(created a Witch) & Rise from the Ashes(created a Roman & started in Salerno-there are zero Roman Culture ppl or counties at any start time)

Volva is super easy to get for a rare achievement. I found a way to bust this game in half with the custom character creator. If you min/max the stats you can get Strong Blood and a Witch Coven on your first character.

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199230022038/screenshots/

[Rialm]

It can take me like 50-60 hours to pass primogenitus and then just stop playing. I've never reached end game. I don't have any purpose to do it. I prefer start in 1066 because of the border and possible nations to form, but it's really fun to start from 867, you have more things to do.

[Dremall]

In my End of an Era run I made it a point to drive the Karlings into extinction. It kept me fairly busy as they breed like freaking rabbits. Also did the Frankokratia achievement at the same time.