Crusader Kings III

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linkfire12 Jan 7, 2022 @ 2:04am
After reforming the Bori faith, my grandchildren are no longer in line for succession.
My ruler has outlived all her children, and her first grandchild was set to inherit the Empire via confederate partition. Upon reforming the faith, my heir becomes my vassal cousin, and I can't really figure out why, I haven't changed any of the gender equality or succession laws.

Is this a unknown bug where creating/reforming a religion refreshes your succession and the code misses your grandchildren? Or is there some unknown rule I am completely unaware of.

Thank you in advance.
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snuggleform Jan 7, 2022 @ 2:48am 
When you reform a faith, a number of the gender quality/succession laws get changed back to their default values without your consent. Check to see what they are set at after you reform the faith, do not simply say to yourself well I didn't change them so they must be the same. I've even seen the laws reset twice - once when you click reform, and once again about 5 seconds later when you get that popup that has a lot of flavor text regarding the reforming of the faith.
linkfire12 Jan 7, 2022 @ 3:10am 
The confusing issue is my heir was a woman, but now it's a cousin, who is also a woman, so I have no idea what caused it. The only thing I can think of is that the game might be bugging out since it doesn't keep track of your grandkids if you reform the faith?
vortex_13 Jan 7, 2022 @ 3:18am 
When you reform your faith it will change your succession law to match your religion. IE: Equal Religious law will change your Succession law to equal. What happened is that you probably took the decision to take female preference succession Daurama gets at the start of the game. When you reformed the faith you left it at "equal" so the game recalculated the succession to put it through the oldest child. I'm guessing the oldest child was a male and so wouldn't have been heir originally. Under the new law he is so it gave the inheiretence to his descendents.
linkfire12 Jan 7, 2022 @ 3:25am 
My eldest is my deceased daughter and her grandchild, I'd have to check the lineage of the cousin to see why it's jumping to them. When I check my empires succession post reformation it is still "female preference", so my assumption is that it just is bugging out and not acknowledging my grandchildren since all my kids are dead, so it's jumping to a random cousin.

I find female preference with equality useful because it lets me freely land my sons with any territory I conquer and have a more stable succession with my daughters simultaneously.

I have a backup save so I suppose the question is whether I should bite the bullet and play as the cousin (which monumentally screws up my eugenics), or try and reform the religion later with another descendant.

Am I correct in assuming you can't usually change gender preference for tribal governments? I haven't found the option for such.

Edit: I just checked and it still swaps to my cousin if I use female preference in the religion, so I'm assuming this is a bug.
Last edited by linkfire12; Jan 7, 2022 @ 3:40am
BaCaz Jan 7, 2022 @ 8:15am 
Make sure you check if the heir to be changed religion to the new one.
titanopteryx Jan 7, 2022 @ 12:46pm 
My guess is when you reformed the religion you made it do a check to see who the heir should be again, and your cousin currently has the most claim. Whereas when it originally picked your grandkid, your grandkid had more of a claim. And it stayed with your grandkid when whatever variables changed because it didn't do a check again until you reformed.
linkfire12 Jan 7, 2022 @ 8:13pm 
Yeah that is my guess as well, the good news is my grandchild is an excellent scholar, so I decided to just wait a bit longer before reformation.
Emperor2000 Jan 7, 2022 @ 8:50pm 
Originally posted by linkfire12:
My ruler has outlived all her children, and her first grandchild was set to inherit the Empire via confederate partition. Upon reforming the faith, my heir becomes my vassal cousin, and I can't really figure out why, I haven't changed any of the gender equality or succession laws.

Is this a unknown bug where creating/reforming a religion refreshes your succession and the code misses your grandchildren? Or is there some unknown rule I am completely unaware of.

Thank you in advance.
Only direct relatives(father, mother and your childs and spouse) convert to the new faith and your vassals.
So if you have made a new faith, you must first demand conversion from your grandchildren, before they are can become your heir again.
Azoniar Jan 7, 2022 @ 9:37pm 
Originally posted by vortex_13:
When you reform your faith it will change your succession law to match your religion. IE: Equal Religious law will change your Succession law to equal. What happened is that you probably took the decision to take female preference succession Daurama gets at the start of the game. When you reformed the faith you left it at "equal" so the game recalculated the succession to put it through the oldest child. I'm guessing the oldest child was a male and so wouldn't have been heir originally. Under the new law he is so it gave the inheiretence to his descendents.
Im pretty sure that this is your answer.
linkfire12 Jan 7, 2022 @ 9:41pm 
I checked and the religious succession law made no difference, it's possibly the religion of my grandchild but I'm pretty sure they were my vassal. None the less I already moved on in my playthrough anyway.
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