Islam is done pretty Badly in CK3 (pls devs)

[Desert_Dweller]

As a Muslim, It is very disappointing what they have done to Islam. For example, the virtues and sins are done very badly. Arrogance is a really sinful trait in the real-life Islam, as if you we a little bit arrogant, it is believed that you will go to hell for that.
Here is some evidence.

Abdullah ibn Mas’ud reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “No one who has the weight of a seed of arrogance in his heart will enter Paradise.” A man said, “But a man likes to have nice clothes and nice shoes.” The Prophet said, “Verily, Allah is beautiful and He loves beauty. Arrogance is to reject the truth and to look down upon people.”

In addition, being sadistic or callous in Islam is a big fat sin too.
Abu Musa Al-Ash`ari (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “You can never be (true) believers until you show mercy to one another. “ The Companions said, “We all show mercy, O Messenger of Allah.”
In addition, same sex relations should be criminal in Islam. No imams ever supported the same sex relations. Even mualladis (which in game, they thing that same sex relations are accepted)

The Quran narrates the story of the "people of Lot" destroyed by the wrath of God because the men engaged in lustful carnal acts between themselves.] Some hadith collections also condemn homosexual and transgender acts, prescribing death penalty for male homosexual intercourse.
Pls devs, fix that.

Also, people like Uthman Bin Affan should not be pictured, and should not be added with random traits. They should be in a form of a floating circle with their Arabic names on it, just like Muhammad. Also, some of these have bad sinful traits (such as Fatima, the daughter of prophet Muhammad). I find this inappropriate, as these people are loved and idolized by many.

If the devs somehow refuse to make these changes, I'd like to ask them to remove the characters in this games respecting the Muslim community.

[Finarfin]

The irony of talking about religion in a game when religion itself is just a game.

[EA Latium]

引用自 Twelvefield：

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I generally really like your witty posts, but this was something else. Thanks for sharing this mate, was really interesting.

[PDX_Moderator_2]

This is a tricky subject assuming OP is not trolling. Religion is a no-no, but it is related to religion in-game so please keep it civil and respectful.

[AdahnGorion]

OP you are tainted by bias, that is the issue (We are all biased btw, the trick is to know your own bias). The cults of Abraham all have millions of subcults and all have their own take on paradise... basically culture had a much higher impact on how the religion was integrated, compared to static fundamentals

So take it for what it is.. a representation of various forms of religions in a videogame.


As for the male to male sexual relations, you should look up the thread about it on the paradox forum (albeit locked you can still see the answers) thare are well documented facts about this being a thing in Iberia, it is nothing weird, infact same sex relation between males were very relaxed and public. It makes no sense to clinc to modern day eternal truth, based on region branches of religion.

[Squashbuckler]

The Concept of "Chaste" is also done completely wrong for Christianity. However, this is just a game, not a religious document. Lets let them pass.

[Squashbuckler]

"If the devs somehow refuse to make these changes, I'd like to ask them to remove the characters in this games respecting the Muslim community."
Are you serious? How about changing your belief system to accept more tolerant views.

[AdahnGorion]

引用自 76561198006875525：

"If the devs somehow refuse to make these changes, I'd like to ask them to remove the characters in this games respecting the Muslim community."
Are you serious? How about changing your belief system to accept more tolerant views.

Some people are pressed hard when their beliefs are challanged.

[TheDogeOfSwabia]

引用自 taher.alqamhawi：

If the devs somehow refuse to make these changes, I'd like to ask them to remove the characters in this games respecting the Muslim community.

I find religious people in general pointless and in many parts offensive. And i´d like all people believing in some sort of god banned from the game.
So if the devs somehow refuse to make these changes, I´d like to ask them to remove these players from playing this game, respecting the atheist community.

[Stoltverd]

Homosexuality a crime?
Please... You really need to study theology done by authors BEFORE the islamic revolution if you want to know how was homosexuality and sins treated back then (and to be honest, just like 60 or 70 years ago...)
Muslims were not such fanatics as they are today.
In medieval times, MUSLIM poets made homoerotic poesy and recited it publicly.
People like Abū ‘Alī al-Husayn ibn ‘Abd Allāh ibn Sĩnã (Avicena to the west) were OPNELY ALCOHOLICS.

If you are being serious, I suggest you give this a read:
https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1231&context=utk_chanhonoproj

[Tiberius]

引用自 Stevo：

引用自 taher.alqamhawi：

If the devs somehow refuse to make these changes, I'd like to ask them to remove the characters in this games respecting the Muslim community.

I find religious people in general pointless and in many parts offensive. And i´d like all people believing in some sort of god banned from the game.
So if the devs somehow refuse to make these changes, I´d like to ask them to remove these players from playing this game, respecting the atheist community.

Me too.

I tolerate religion and religious people but my tolerance stops where they start to not tolerate my non-believe in religion and force their ideas and ideology on me through restricting me, changing or banning stuff in any way such as the OP tries on this game.

Muslims are absolutely intolerant and non of them I have encountered has ever been understanding or tolerant.

[Finarfin]

Trolls aplenty in this thread.

[Othobrithol]

引用自 Hans-Peter：

引用自 Stevo：

I find religious people in general pointless and in many parts offensive. And i´d like all people believing in some sort of god banned from the game.
So if the devs somehow refuse to make these changes, I´d like to ask them to remove these players from playing this game, respecting the atheist community.

Me too.

I tolerate religion and religious people but my tolerance stops where they start to not tolerate my non-believe in religion and force their ideas and ideology on me through restricting me, changing or banning stuff in any way such as the OP tries on this game.

Muslims are absolutely intolerant and non of them I have encountered has ever been understanding or tolerant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcUs5X9glCc&ab_channel=hotmonger

[Dufflebags]

8/10 troll on the richter scale.

Haven't seen one this good in awhile.

[myperfectvictory]

Don't really see how OP is a troll post.

Is it because he brings up credible points that many of you can't wrap your brains around, so you use the troll card due to your lack of understanding?

There is a lot of technical knowledge in OP's post to backup his claims/statements. It's not half-assed, made-up, sensationalized ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that is typical of a troll post.

[Finarfin]

引用自 Mr. A：

Don't really see how OP is a troll post.

Is it because he brings up credible points that many of you can't wrap your brains around, so you use the troll card due to your lack of understanding?

There is a lot of technical knowledge in OP's post to backup his claims/statements. It's not half-assed, made-up, sensationalized ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that is typical of a troll post.

It falls under the category of 'ridiculous' no matter how you slice it.