Update on ruler designer?

[ReDDrag00n]

Is there any update for when the ruler designer will be out? I love the game so far, but I've always preferred playing as my own characters.

[Arson]

Originally posted by ReDDrag00n:

Is there any update for when the ruler designer will be out? I love the game so far, but I've always preferred playing as my own characters.

I've not heard of any unless today's livestream said something about it. It was intended to be available upon release before it was delayed, so I don't expect it will be too long away.

[sudokek]

Ruler designer imo is a dumb update. I hope they dont rush this content. It breaks the game and defeats the purpose of the rng

[Arson]

Originally posted by sudokek:

Ruler designer imo is a dumb update. I hope they dont rush this content. It breaks the game and defeats the purpose of the rng

Hardly. The main idea is to create your own dynasty, name, motto, and coat of arms. You'd only be "customizing" the first ruler. Not game-breaking stuff.

[sudokek]

But everyone adds traits and stuff. It's dumb. You can just change all that stuff ingame without the possibility of cheating. You play how you want ofc, dont get me wrong, I just hope they dont rush this feature. There's better stuff they could work on, fleshing out some event chains would be rad. I'd like supernatural stuff too, like spawn of satan and immortality. I also think the religious traits arent that great when you make a faith. There's really only a few really good ones that really change the way it works. Ruler designer is such a low priority imo.

Red dragon dont be mad bro, I wasnt being incendiary. At least Arson is mature enough to not default to hostile. Also, you did ask my opinion by posting anything on a discussion that I happen to browse and I happened to click your post. I can say anything I want man. You dont have to ask.

[ReDDrag00n]

Originally posted by sudokek:

Red dragon dont be mad bro, I wasnt being incendiary

I just fail to see why you would comment on the thread when your comment had nothing to do with answering the question. In fact, all your comment did was try to put down a concept that makes the game more fun for many players. Then you went ahead and hoped that that concept would be delayed. I don't think incendiary is the right word, but you definitely didn't have good intentions.

[Arson]

Originally posted by sudokek:

But everyone adds traits and stuff. It's dumb. You can just change all that stuff ingame without the possibility of cheating. You play how you want ofc, dont get me wrong, I just hope they dont rush this feature. There's better stuff they could work on, fleshing out some event chains would be rad. I'd like supernatural stuff too, like spawn of satan and immortality. I also think the religious traits arent that great when you make a faith. There's really only a few really good ones that really change the way it works. Ruler designer is such a low priority imo.

Red dragon dont be mad bro, I wasnt being incendiary

Low priority for you. Ruler designer is one of the most desired features by the community and was a big selling point for CK3. Also, the feature is already designed, just not implemented due to some issues they ran into. It's not like the whole team is on hold until this single feature is done.

The point about designing a ruler being "overpowered" is quite moot. If someone wanted to game the system to get the best traits they could simply search through the thousands of starting rulers until they find one with the "perfect" traits for them. Also, the designer is almost certain to have some sort of points-based system for assigning traits so you don't simply create a superhuman.

Which, by the way, people can already do if they are really intent on doing it. This begs the question...what do you really care? It's a single-player game. If you don't want to create your own ruler for whatever reason, don't do it. Just know that almost everyone else does, and that is what the developers are interested in.

[Moist Butt]

Originally posted by Arson:

Originally posted by sudokek:

Ruler designer imo is a dumb update. I hope they dont rush this content. It breaks the game and defeats the purpose of the rng

Hardly. The main idea is to create your own dynasty, name, motto, and coat of arms. You'd only be "customizing" the first ruler. Not game-breaking stuff.

damn didnt know about this. Really hope this comes out soon. I love challenging starts, but some of the coat of arms is a big turn off for me. All the powerful dynasty get the nice looking coat of arms.

[Rhyagelle]

Originally posted by sudokek:

Ruler designer imo is a dumb update. I hope they dont rush this content. It breaks the game and defeats the purpose of the rng

What a stupid opinion.

[sudokek]

Originally posted by ReDDrag00n:

Originally posted by Rhyagelle:

Super cool guys. Im just gonna talk to this other guy.

Originally posted by Arson:

Originally posted by sudokek:

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The idea behind the whole creating your own custom dude from scratch is just dumb in my view. While it is a feature that I realize will and should be implemented, I just hope they dont make it a top priority unless it's super easy to implement. I realize people think it's cool to negate the starting rng and just do your own thing, but pretty sure you can actually already do something pretty darn close to ruler designer. You can edit the starting characters dna allowing you to change apperances a lot, and I'd suspect traits along with that. It's already in the game as I've seen. You just have to enable a dev mode of sorts.

I play this game multiplayer oftentimes. It's why I care. In ck2 it was an issue a lot, as I'd try to coordinate groups but then that one guy always had to make a super op character when everyone else didnt use the creator. It was pretty stupid in thos situations and we just had to restart the save otherwise that one dude has an advantage.

I cant care less what someone does in their own game and their own save. I just dont want that feature first. It's not that important and is purely cosmetic with no real gameplay addition.

[Arson]

Well again, it's not important to you, but is a feature the community has wanted and is looking forward to. If it's that big of a concern for you it's probably best to simply ignore it and move on. It's being worked on and will be coming soon.

As for multiplayer you can set the parameters of what types of character can be played. I don't see any reason why, if you wanted, that a host could disable custom rulers.

Lastly, using a mod or digging into editing files in the game is not a player-friendly method to creating a custom ruler. A major part of CK3 is the narrative of the game, and being able to start with creating your own ruler and dynasty from scratch adds a lot of investment for players to appreciate.

So again, the feature was already planned for release and was delayed. It's not holding anything up for development. That's not how the process works. If you don't like or care or want the feature then I'm not really sure why you're even here.

[Klutch]

not sure if you saw but they did speak about the ruler designer and said they wanted to do something fantastic with it and thats why its been held back

[bidbihS]

Originally posted by Klutch:

not sure if you saw but they did speak about the ruler designer and said they wanted to do something fantastic with it and thats why its been held back

I don't want fantastic.. I just want the basic ruler designer

[sudokek]

Originally posted by Arson:

Well again, it's not important to you, but is a feature the community has wanted and is looking forward to. If it's that big of a concern for you it's probably best to simply ignore it and move on. It's being worked on and will be coming soon.

As for multiplayer you can set the parameters of what types of character can be played. I don't see any reason why, if you wanted, that a host could disable custom rulers.

Lastly, using a mod or digging into editing files in the game is not a player-friendly method to creating a custom ruler. A major part of CK3 is the narrative of the game, and being able to start with creating your own ruler and dynasty from scratch adds a lot of investment for players to appreciate.

So again, the feature was already planned for release and was delayed. It's not holding anything up for development. That's not how the process works. If you don't like or care or want the feature then I'm not really sure why you're even here.

Fair enough man, I feel you've made plenty of valid points. Thanks for your perspective. Hopefully it doesnt take much resources for them to push this update so they can do the other stuff too.

[Arson]

Originally posted by sudokek:

Originally posted by Arson:

Well again, it's not important to you, but is a feature the community has wanted and is looking forward to. If it's that big of a concern for you it's probably best to simply ignore it and move on. It's being worked on and will be coming soon.

As for multiplayer you can set the parameters of what types of character can be played. I don't see any reason why, if you wanted, that a host could disable custom rulers.

Lastly, using a mod or digging into editing files in the game is not a player-friendly method to creating a custom ruler. A major part of CK3 is the narrative of the game, and being able to start with creating your own ruler and dynasty from scratch adds a lot of investment for players to appreciate.

So again, the feature was already planned for release and was delayed. It's not holding anything up for development. That's not how the process works. If you don't like or care or want the feature then I'm not really sure why you're even here.

Fair enough man, I feel you've made plenty of valid points. Thanks for your perspective. Hopefully it doesnt take much resources for them to push this update so they can do the other stuff too.

I don't have any numbers for you, but they've got a pretty large team. I'm sure the designer feature is not any kind of hitch. All sorts of people work on various assets and features all the time. You can be sure they have people working on bugs, QA, current improvements, future improvements, and even people working on future expansions. It's a large effort. They're not going to hold up anything for this one feature. They've already shown us that by releasing the game without it.

[Zatara]

I wish they would include a 'reform' dynasty option, giving one the option of customizing the dynasty from scratch in-game. I really hope to see this future in the ruler designer.