King Arthur: Knight's Tale

King Arthur: Knight's Tale

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ragen311 Jan 15, 2023 @ 4:43pm
Morality Chart
So, I really know nothing about this game and am diving right in. I feel I have enough RPG and Turn based tactical experience to navigate my way through for the most part without having to restart once I get the hang of things.

My biggest concern is the Morality chart. I know very little about Arthurian legend (lets assume basically none because what I do remember is probably not correct). I made the first decision about the throne to be the righteous one. When I found out there was another axis I was going to pick Old Faith because it sounded cool. I looked briefly around and found an overwhelming amount of discussions are about Tyrant Old Faith or Righteous Christian.

Should I just choose righteous christian for my first playthrough then? I don't want to miss out on major content, have a difficult time finding strategy help because I took the less traveled path, or basically enjoy the game less. Leaning towards Righteous Christian after my google searches, was it wise to change my mind from righteous old faith? Thanks
Originally posted by Iguana-on-a-stick:
My biggest concern is the Morality chart. I know very little about Arthurian legend

Very quick backstory, which is mostly but not necessarily entirely accurate for this game:

* Arthur becomes king of Britain and a golden age begins. (Whole story of Sword in the stone.)
* Arthur is seduced by his evil half-sister Morgawse and has a bastard son, Mordred. Morgawse raises Mordred to hate Arthur, but when he grows up, Mordred joins Arthur's cause.
* Most of Arthur's knights go off searching for the Holy Grail and many of them die.
* At a certain point Mordred rebels and takes over the kingdom. (It has to do with Arthur's best friend/knight Lancelot and his queen Guinevere having an affair, it's a whole thing.)
* Arthur and Mordred fight the battle of Camlann. Everybody dies (except sir Bedivere.)
* Arthur kills Mordred but is mortally wounded. The Lady of the Lake takes away Arthur to the mystical island of Avalon to heal.
* There is a prophecy that Arthur will return to lead Britain in its greatest hour of need.

The game starts at the penultimate point here: something goes wrong, Avalon is corrupted, and the plot happens.

Now because of this backstory I am playing Mordred as a tyrant in my first game. Mordred the righteous knight just feels wrong. He's a bastard (in both senses of the word) and a villain. Everybody in-story remarks on this all the time. But that's just what I think makes sense: the story supports both interpretations, and you can also read Mordred as more of a misguided guy manipulated by others.

Old Faith vs. Christian is not part of the original legends. (Those were written in the middle ages where Christianity was just assumed, though there are also fairies and wizards and such)

But a lot of the more modern versions of the Arthur story do add this dimension. (i.e. Bernard Cornwell's Winter King and sequels, Zimmer Bradley's Mists of Avalon, probably lots more.) They do this because if a historical King Arthur existed, it would have been much earlier (around 500 A.D.) at a point where Christianity was still spreading to England.

I went with Old Faith because Mordred wasn't particularly pious and blood sacrifices seem to fit him more. Also his evil mother and aunt are old faith in the game. But Christian works just fine too.

But I don't think you're "supposed" to combine any of them. All the combinations make sense and all of them have characters representing them. It's a fun system.

I don't think there's much content to miss, it's more about which characters you can use.
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Uryens Jan 15, 2023 @ 5:30pm 
The most relevant thing is that all mages are old faith followers and/or of tyrannic alignment. That´s one of the reasons why a lot of people goes in those directions.

Also, if you started going in one direction and now want to go in another one, then it´s better to just restart the game.
ragen311 Jan 15, 2023 @ 7:33pm 
I have not had to do anything for religion. I am going to stick with Righteous. I was thinking Old Faith would be cool for no particular reason. It just sounds like it is more canon or "supposed to be" Christian with Righteous from what I have read....that's all.

No big deal if I don't end up doing Old faith since I already started the righteous path.
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Iguana-on-a-stick Jan 16, 2023 @ 2:10am 
My biggest concern is the Morality chart. I know very little about Arthurian legend

Very quick backstory, which is mostly but not necessarily entirely accurate for this game:

* Arthur becomes king of Britain and a golden age begins. (Whole story of Sword in the stone.)
* Arthur is seduced by his evil half-sister Morgawse and has a bastard son, Mordred. Morgawse raises Mordred to hate Arthur, but when he grows up, Mordred joins Arthur's cause.
* Most of Arthur's knights go off searching for the Holy Grail and many of them die.
* At a certain point Mordred rebels and takes over the kingdom. (It has to do with Arthur's best friend/knight Lancelot and his queen Guinevere having an affair, it's a whole thing.)
* Arthur and Mordred fight the battle of Camlann. Everybody dies (except sir Bedivere.)
* Arthur kills Mordred but is mortally wounded. The Lady of the Lake takes away Arthur to the mystical island of Avalon to heal.
* There is a prophecy that Arthur will return to lead Britain in its greatest hour of need.

The game starts at the penultimate point here: something goes wrong, Avalon is corrupted, and the plot happens.

Now because of this backstory I am playing Mordred as a tyrant in my first game. Mordred the righteous knight just feels wrong. He's a bastard (in both senses of the word) and a villain. Everybody in-story remarks on this all the time. But that's just what I think makes sense: the story supports both interpretations, and you can also read Mordred as more of a misguided guy manipulated by others.

Old Faith vs. Christian is not part of the original legends. (Those were written in the middle ages where Christianity was just assumed, though there are also fairies and wizards and such)

But a lot of the more modern versions of the Arthur story do add this dimension. (i.e. Bernard Cornwell's Winter King and sequels, Zimmer Bradley's Mists of Avalon, probably lots more.) They do this because if a historical King Arthur existed, it would have been much earlier (around 500 A.D.) at a point where Christianity was still spreading to England.

I went with Old Faith because Mordred wasn't particularly pious and blood sacrifices seem to fit him more. Also his evil mother and aunt are old faith in the game. But Christian works just fine too.

But I don't think you're "supposed" to combine any of them. All the combinations make sense and all of them have characters representing them. It's a fun system.

I don't think there's much content to miss, it's more about which characters you can use.
Last edited by Iguana-on-a-stick; Jan 16, 2023 @ 2:21am
Багряный Jan 16, 2023 @ 3:04am 
In my opinion, the righteous of the old faith gives the best knights.

In my opinion, the righteous of the old faith give the best knights. Sir Bedivere and Lady Morgana le Fay are very strong and hardy knights. The christians have a White Knight, but Sir Galahad is completely useless.

Then you get Sir Geraint, he is the best archer in the game.

I didn't like the knights of the tyrants, the Red Knight is strong, but he is worse than Sir Bedivere. In addition, other knights of the old faith are generally superior to Christians. Other than the White Knight, Sir Balin and Sir Tegyr, I didn't meet any really strong knights there. The Old Faith gives Merlin or Lady Morgawse, Lady Guinevere and Lady Isolde. Sir Balan and Faerie Knight.
ragen311 Jan 17, 2023 @ 9:05pm 
Thanks for clearing a lot of that up Iquana. It is strange to play a game where you choose your morality, even though it seems like your morality was chosen long before the game started. Still gonna go with righteous...have issues playing the bad guy. Since it seems like no matter what, I'll be mixing some type of bad guy in; I'll try to help out people with righteous answers.

Aside from roleplaying, I think the quality of knights is a good way to go as well, person who's name is in a different alphabet than my own. Thank you and I will stick with my original combo of righteous and old faith. and done
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