Additional Female Characters from the Arthurian Lore

[Dumeka]

Hi everyone!
As we know, there are only 6 Female characters in the game and one can only be recruited if you decide to not recruit Merlin so if you do that you end up with only 5.
We know that the most popular Books of the Arthurian Legends were men heavy because the main focus was always Arthur, Merlin and the Knights with the only woman mostly mentioned being Guinevere since she was Arthurs Wife.

However, there were several other books that mentioned also other female characters between the Centuries that existed in the lores and legends which would be cool to have in game like the following:
- Elaine of Astolat (The Lady of Shallott)
- Elaine of Corbenik
- Enid
- The Grail Maiden
- Lynette
- The Novice
- Ragnell (The Loathly Hag)
- Sandy
- Vivien ( also known as Nineve, Nimue or Niniane)

So I wouldn't mind some additional side quests added from which we could recruit these or maybe other ways to unlock them like in a new mini campaign (DLC) that connects to the main campaign (like trying to rebuild everything and looking for more legendary characters to help with that) to extend the replayability of the game.

I for one like the game a lot and since the Devs still bring updates out I wouldn't mind to see them also expanding it with additional lore, quests and campaigns that introduce more characters from the Arthurian Lore. :)

[Xan84]

I would love more DLC but the problem with women... I don't really care the number of them, it also makes sense since women and battlefields don't match.
Take for instance Lady Dindraine, why in the world would you give her a bow and not a crossbow?! Crossbow one of the best weapons for women, bow one of the worst.

Its not easy to feet women on the battlefield in a medieval setting and actually make sense.

[Dumeka]

Originally posted by Xan84:

I would love more DLC but the problem with women... I don't really care the number of them, it also makes sense since women and battlefields don't match.
Take for instance Lady Dindraine, why in the world would you give her a bow and not a crossbow?! Crossbow one of the best weapons for women, bow one of the worst.

Its not easy to feet women on the battlefield in a medieval setting and actually make sense.

It actually is if done right. Some of them would fit in as arcanists or sages and as you said a crossbow type of character would be great too.
I don't see the problem with the bow though.
There are several female characters across the mythologie, fantasy, legends and even in real life that were holding bows.

One of the best turn based games out there it's Wartales in my opinion (check it out in the store!) which also has a co-op mode that works well ( would be great to have in this game aswell). It is also mild fantasy and brings rather the realism of the medieval time.
In that game you can have any profession or class being male or female without being forced to have the one or the other in the process. :)

[Xan84]

Originally posted by Dumeka:

Originally posted by Xan84:

I would love more DLC but the problem with women... I don't really care the number of them, it also makes sense since women and battlefields don't match.
Take for instance Lady Dindraine, why in the world would you give her a bow and not a crossbow?! Crossbow one of the best weapons for women, bow one of the worst.

Its not easy to feet women on the battlefield in a medieval setting and actually make sense.

It actually is if done right. Some of them would fit in as arcanists or sages and as you said a crossbow type of character would be great too.
I don't see the problem with the bow though.
There are several female characters across the mythologie, fantasy, legends and even in real life that were holding bows.

One of the best turn based games out there it's Wartales in my opinion (check it out in the store!) which also has a co-op mode that works well ( would be great to have in this game aswell). It is also mild fantasy and brings rather the realism of the medieval time.
In that game you can have any profession or class being male or female without being forced to have the one or the other in the process. :)

Wartales seems interesting, going to have a look at it later. That said, I would like more DLCs with single player campaign, don't need coop in this type of games, I like to play them by myself.

As for bows, its not that woman are not showed using them in different media, its just that to use a bow that is made for war, not hunting, needs a strong man. Otherwise, good luck even pulling back the string. I am no expert but I've seen video of how hard it is to use bows 100 lbs bows. Men who are objectively stronger then women, will make better bow users for obvious reasons. You also need a very strong bow to even go trough armor(and I don't mean plate, you are not getting trough that unless its a weak spot).

[jdpvagabond]

I knew there would be at least one thread whining about representation on the first page. There's always at least one.

[Dumeka]

Originally posted by jdpvagabond:

I knew there would be at least one thread whining about representation on the first page. There's always at least one.

It has nothing to do with representation. Would just be cool to have more characters to recruit and I personally would like some more females since there are a lot male characters in the game already. That doesn't mean that I would mind to see more male characters.
They can aswell add a mix of both.

[Dumeka]

Originally posted by Xan84:

Originally posted by Dumeka:

It actually is if done right. Some of them would fit in as arcanists or sages and as you said a crossbow type of character would be great too.
I don't see the problem with the bow though.
There are several female characters across the mythologie, fantasy, legends and even in real life that were holding bows.

One of the best turn based games out there it's Wartales in my opinion (check it out in the store!) which also has a co-op mode that works well ( would be great to have in this game aswell). It is also mild fantasy and brings rather the realism of the medieval time.
In that game you can have any profession or class being male or female without being forced to have the one or the other in the process. :)

Wartales seems interesting, going to have a look at it later. That said, I would like more DLCs with single player campaign, don't need coop in this type of games, I like to play them by myself.

As for bows, its not that woman are not showed using them in different media, its just that to use a bow that is made for war, not hunting, needs a strong man. Otherwise, good luck even pulling back the string. I am no expert but I've seen video of how hard it is to use bows 100 lbs bows. Men who are objectively stronger then women, will make better bow users for obvious reasons. You also need a very strong bow to even go trough armor(and I don't mean plate, you are not getting trough that unless its a weak spot).

Yeah I get that.
However, even in movies you see that good bow users find spots they can place their arrows in vulnerable spots through good aiming cause otherwise they can't do any damage against a armored unit at all OR they have iron or a other type of hard metal at the arrowhead to be able to do damage .
That's of course mostly if they are the hero/heroine for the most part. ^_^
In other cases you see that they are rather just dropping a rain of arrows through several bow users from a higher place cause they wouldn't be able to do a good amount of damage on the same level and such.

As about Wartales you can play it either way and have a lot of fun.
I have some solo runs and saves myself while I also have a co op save with a friend. :)

[Dumeka]

Originally posted by PowerMan:

This is a dark and atmospheric world about tough men, in heavy armor with heavy swords and axes, they are the main force, women are there more for variety, in the early stages they are still playable, but in later stages they are simply useless, and this is logical.

For lovers of women in such games, I can only wish for a separate paid DLC “Women’s Feminine Squad”, which will be bought by those who are really interested in it, the rest will simply ignore it.

We are not talking here about custom females, we are talking about lore based ones that exist in the Arthurian Lore and are part of the story. Why would be a good arcanist or sage useless? It's like saying a male arcanist can throw his fireball further then a female even magic is not strength related and rather illogical then logical.
As about the game being men based only because it's dark and atmospheric it's another illogical thought since corpses are corpses no matter what gender and witches and banshees are females too.

[Balgin Stondraeg]

Originally posted by Dumeka:

- Lynette

Which Lynette? There's something like six of them. All with the same name (some slight variants on spelling not withstanding, Lunette etc).
There's also two or three ladies of the lake (depending on whether Arthur gained Excalibur as a replacement for the original sword in the stone which he broke in battle with king Pellinor) before or after sir Balin murdered one of them in cold blood.

[Dumeka]

Originally posted by Balgin Stondraeg:

Originally posted by Dumeka:

- Lynette

Which Lynette? There's something like six of them. All with the same name (some slight variants on spelling not withstanding, Lunette etc).
There's also two or three ladies of the lake (depending on whether Arthur gained Excalibur as a replacement for the original sword in the stone which he broke in battle with king Pellinor) before or after sir Balin murdered one of them in cold blood.

I meant the one from the Nightbringer which has some healing and magical abilities.
She would make a good arcanist or healer/buffer in the game. :)

[Swordsman]

I want my harem of lady combatants.

[Dumeka]

Originally posted by Balgin Stondraeg:

Originally posted by Dumeka:

- Lynette

There's also two or three ladies of the lake (depending on whether Arthur gained Excalibur as a replacement for the original sword in the stone which he broke in battle with king Pellinor) before or after sir Balin murdered one of them in cold blood.

The last one on the list is the lady of the lake and they also known names include also Nimue which is rather like the second lady of the lake that was portraied in the series Cursed as the daughter of Merlin too. :)
Of course they could split them and include both in the game since Nimue is depicted more like a warrior with magical abilities while Vivien (or Viviene) was a pure Enchantress but it's up to them if they ever consider to add anyone at all anyway.
Maybe they even planning a second game that includes them, who knows?

[Nozan]

a simple no