12 Knights

[lochinvar1]

Great game overall, but I dislike being forced to boot knights if you need to free up room at the table. The mechanism doesn't even contribute to replay value since I'm discovering there's nothing much more tedious in-game than a second playthrough that involves quests to unlock characters you know in advance have to be cut. But you feel compelled to do the quests because you need the loot and Xp.

I love the game enough to kind of slog past this aspect, but a slog it is.

[kbiz]

Twelve knights is more than enough.

On your second playthrough, you should switch your morality path to the diametric opposite. Best way to do different missions.

[pascal.difolco]

I tend to agree that doing missions for useless dudes isn't very fun on replays, there could be a choice between recruiting the knight or getting some more XP/loot/whatever

[Brady4444]

I would like the game to have an option for the extra knights akin to the 'Titles' feature. Let these knights be given some sort of passive effect if you've recruited them, but have chosen not to use them in an active role. They would then be in a resource pool that could be used for solving events without using gold/materials.

[holy-death]

Originally posted by kbiz:

Twelve knights is more than enough.

On your second playthrough, you should switch your morality path to the diametric opposite. Best way to do different missions.

1) The problem with having only 12 spots is that characters take the spot automatically as soon as one is free, meaning you HAVE to boot them, because you can't make them aspirants. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

I think you should just have a pool of knights and simply nominate who sits at the round table. Kind of like it works with the titles. This could allow for some experimentation as well, especially if you give the option to upgrade Joust to level a character to the maximum level, not just a single level.

2) The beginning is still going to be the same (Kay -> Dindraine -> Balin/Balan -> Ector -> Lanval -> Ector, for example). It will take you a bunch of missions for your playthrough to diverge, even if you are going for a complete opposite of your previous alignment. And you still want experience from all missions that you can do.

[lochinvar1]

I like your ideas, Brady and Holy Death. Definitely not knocking the game--it's terrific. I just haven't enjoyed the mechanics of acquiring and booting knights. And yes, I'm playing through the different moralities/faiths.

[kbiz]

Originally posted by holy-death:

1) The problem with having only 12 spots is that characters take the spot automatically as soon as one is free, meaning you HAVE to boot them, because you can't make them aspirants. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

I think you should just have a pool of knights and simply nominate who sits at the round table. Kind of like it works with the titles. This could allow for some experimentation as well, especially if you give the option to upgrade Joust to level a character to the maximum level, not just a single level.

The devs are thinking about creating the ability to swap knights back and forth. We'll find out their decision tomorrow.

I understand the appeal of coveting every single knight. Mine, mine, mine. I just want to sample everybody. You can - for at least one mission. If you like them, keep them.

The reality is you have a make decisions anyway given a four person party. It's difficult to keep even 8 knights at max level.

Another option is playing the game more than once and focusing on different characters.

[lochinvar1]

Agreed. But the problem with multiple playthroughs (for me) is I'm finding it a slog to replay missions for knights I know won't be around. Need the loot and XP, so I play every mission. It could be better.