Reforge Rarity

[Hawara]

I haven't used it but before i do i have a question. Does the item keep it's traits or do i get a completely different one with higher rarity?

[Bluem00n111]

Originally posted by sandman25dcsss:

Max item level is 20.
I stopped selling relics, hopefully it maximizes my chances to get other relics instead of the same bad relic again.

It doesn't. In my current playthrough I have rolled Multiple times 2x the same relic inthe merchant (at the same time) and once it was a relic I already owned.
Feels bad.

[Alan]

I really wish the level up function kept bonuses intact. It's looking like I'll keep Mordred's level 10 sword through level 25 simply because no new weapon can match its bonuses.

[M€M3!N$]

Originally posted by Alan:

I really wish the level up function kept bonuses intact. It's looking like I'll keep Mordred's level 10 sword through level 25 simply because no new weapon can match its bonuses.

Totally agree. Make more sense if all the stats got kept and it just got upgraded. Right now I rock this with Mordred and I keep this one on hand for others but I'm mostly level 10-11 right now.
Fomorian Rune of War
Relic Rune for One-Handed Weapons
14 75
+4 Damage for Melee Basic Attacks
+10% Armour Breaking
Level Requirement: 5
Defender, Vanguard, Sage only

Dutmaneuvering
Rune for One-Handed Weapons
13 10
* +3 Damage against
Slowed Units
* +3 Damage against
Knocked Down Units
Level Requirement: 5
Defender, Vanguard, Sage only

But that's the thing about this game you gotta mix and match your weps/armor for each mission and what heroes you have at the time. That other sword won't work unless you have an arcanist with a slowing hex and a shield/meele with knockdown. Maybe everyone LOL I'm using level five on my 10s but I haven't gotten a bunch of level 10 gear yet. Still pwns. Hard to explain this game to people who never played. Loyalty is pretty big and you can swap those guys around at the round table and their 1-5 system is weird. Is there even a benefit for maxing out someone's loyalty to 20? As far as I can tell once I hit 16 with the +1AP that's it. Take the person with Max loyalty out of the round table and replace them with somebody who will jump to the next level with the three loyalty points there. That's basically what this game is. If you don't like paying attention and swapping things around constantly you probably won't like it. And again my comments are not directed towards you. I just jump on your posts like Lil Jon used to jump on tracks.
(OKAY? Whaaatt? Yeeyayyy!)

[Landorf]

Most useless forge function. To make yellow out of blue, you need to invest topaz. These gems are very rare and needed for future relics upgrades, so you'd prefer to keep em.

[Landorf]

Originally posted by AT1st:

Also you can save before you hit the end mission button and reload if the random item in the forge is not what you were hoping for.
You can do that for merchant and magic tower restock, too. It's a bit lame to do but items are quite important in late game so it is hard to say no to a good "free" item from the forge (I also don't like that you can't upgrade/level up your desired item there but always get a random item - stupid design decision imo)

Thats what everyone who plays this gamee needs to know.

[M€M3!N$]

Originally posted by Landorf:

Originally posted by AT1st:

Also you can save before you hit the end mission button and reload if the random item in the forge is not what you were hoping for.
You can do that for merchant and magic tower restock, too. It's a bit lame to do but items are quite important in late game so it is hard to say no to a good "free" item from the forge (I also don't like that you can't upgrade/level up your desired item there but always get a random item - stupid design decision imo)

Thats what everyone who plays this gamee needs to know.

+1
And not just that. It applies to any chest you open during a mission.

[Alan]

Originally posted by M€M3!N$:

Originally posted by Landorf:

Thats what everyone who plays this gamee needs to know.

+1
And not just that. It applies to any chest you open during a mission.

In my experience, rerolls happen at mission start/end. Loading a mid-mission save has no apparent impact on chest content.

I'll note that rerolling the Merchant/Tower/Forge is SO much more efficient than attempting to reroll mission chests that there's no point in doing anything else.

[M€M3!N$]

Originally posted by Alan:

Originally posted by M€M3!N$:

+1
And not just that. It applies to any chest you open during a mission.

In my experience, rerolls happen at mission start/end. Loading a mid-mission save has no apparent impact on chest content.

I do a quick save before I open every chest and I'll get a different item. But I've only done it twice.

[Alan]

Originally posted by M€M3!N$:

Originally posted by Alan:

In my experience, rerolls happen at mission start/end. Loading a mid-mission save has no apparent impact on chest content.

I do a quick say before I open every chest and I'll get a different item. But I've only done it twice.

Hrm. I've never really bothered to go back to saves to reroll items, but I have gone back when I wanted to redo a battle, and the items from chests after the battle have been the same.

I'll have to check again.

[Alan]

Originally posted by Bluem00n111:

Originally posted by sandman25dcsss:

Max item level is 20.
I stopped selling relics, hopefully it maximizes my chances to get other relics instead of the same bad relic again.

It doesn't. In my current playthrough I have rolled Multiple times 2x the same relic inthe merchant (at the same time) and once it was a relic I already owned.
Feels bad.

I can confirm this. I'm looking at two of the same relic sword on my screen right now.

[M€M3!N$]

Originally posted by Alan:

Originally posted by M€M3!N$:

I do a quick say before I open every chest and I'll get a different item. But I've only done it twice.

Hrm. I've never really bothered to go back to saves to reroll items, but I have gone back when I wanted to redo a battle, and the items from chests after the battle have been the same.

I'll have to check again.

The mission I initially noticed on was a barrel behind me I didn't even notice the first time. Soon as the mission started you were pointing "north" and the barrel was "south". Now I always rotate the camera when I start, just to check. I think that's the only one I ever missed at first. So far. First time I got the yellow pot, second time I got I think 17 gold, 3rd time it was a blue armor pot. But like you say I don't take the time for those random things like I used to do in Starfield. Not really worth the time.
But I'm pretty sure they're all randomly generated I'll test it a few more times but it's not that big of a deal.

[AT1st]

You don't see the item stats until the end screen of the mission anyway, so how would you know if the item is good or bad when it drops from a chest? Since relics are not necessarily better than other items.

[M€M3!N$]

Originally posted by AT1st:

You don't see the item stats until the end screen of the mission anyway, so how would you know if the item is good or bad when it drops from a chest? Since relics are not necessarily better than other items.

Guess maybe we're talking about different things. I'm talking about during a mission..the random piles and barrels. I guess I shouldn't have said "chests" specifically because I've never tested those specifically. But the barrels and the piles of bones or whatever are randomly generated from what I can tell. You can't see the stats when you pick them up as you say… But from what I can tell there's only like five different pots in this game and you can see the color real quick as soon as you pick it up. Just like you can see if you pick up a blue, green, or relic item. And it specifically tells you how much gold was in it if that's the reward. You can't see the specs, but you can see what it is going to be when the mission is done. The alters always have the same effects. So I quick save before I touch those if I don't have somebody with enough spellcraft to recognize what they actually do. If they debuff me I'll just restart and not do it.

[Alan]

Originally posted by M€M3!N$:

Originally posted by Alan:

Hrm. I've never really bothered to go back to saves to reroll items, but I have gone back when I wanted to redo a battle, and the items from chests after the battle have been the same.

I'll have to check again.

The mission I initially noticed on was a barrel behind me I didn't even notice the first time. Soon as the mission started you were pointing "north" and the barrel was "south". Now I always rotate the camera when I start, just to check. I think that's the only one I ever missed at first. So far. First time I got the yellow pot, second time I got I think 17 gold, 3rd time it was a blue armor pot. But like you say I don't take the time for those random things like I used to do in Starfield. Not really worth the time.
But I'm pretty sure they're all randomly generated I'll test it a few more times but it's not that big of a deal.

Just tested, no matter how many times I reload I always get the same loot from a given chest, even down to the exact number of gold.

[M€M3!N$]

Originally posted by Alan:

Originally posted by M€M3!N$:

The mission I initially noticed on was a barrel behind me I didn't even notice the first time. Soon as the mission started you were pointing "north" and the barrel was "south". Now I always rotate the camera when I start, just to check. I think that's the only one I ever missed at first. So far. First time I got the yellow pot, second time I got I think 17 gold, 3rd time it was a blue armor pot. But like you say I don't take the time for those random things like I used to do in Starfield. Not really worth the time.
But I'm pretty sure they're all randomly generated I'll test it a few more times but it's not that big of a deal.

Just tested, no matter how many times I reload I always get the same loot from a given chest, even down to the exact number of gold.

OK. Just to clarify, is that a chest? Or is that a Loot pile or a barrel? Because like I said before that's the difference for these. The chests are set in stone. Just like the altars.
The Loot piles and barrels and such seem to be randomly generated items.