Enemy AI

[Rizilliant]

I am once again, trying to get myself to finish this game.. The problem I keep running into, is that enemies will flat out REFUSE to walk into my Overwatch zones, onto my traps, or into my firing lines. They even know which squares to stop at, to force my archers to move JUST enough to only get a single attack! it feels almost like cheating tbh..

Take the mission where we acquire Yven for example. Theres a nightmare knight that requires me to kill his totem, or I damage myself by harming him.. This battle, the enemies will literally run around the entire map, to avoid my overwatch. Likewise, they will sit and skip their turns, forcing me to run through their traps, into their firing lines, and only utilize ranged attacks until I brute force my way through their traps and ambushes! Ive decided to play it this time on Normal, and Im still finding it far too frustrating!

[Wendek]

You might be too used to XCOM and the likes. Overwatch is a niche feature in this game, you're absolutely not supposed to use "Overwatch creep" as your main battle strategy. As in, I'm pretty sure I've had stretches of 5+ missions where I didn't use Overwatch a single time on Hard, and had no problems.

[Uryens]

I have finished the game in Hard without losing any knight and only used overwatch to control enemy movements and make them better targets for area attacks.
Also, all those things you are complaining about are exactly the same things a careful player can do, so it´s not "cheating". the AI is just using the smartest tactic to lure you in.

And regarding traps, I have used them successfuly in a dozen of missions at least.

[Dani Mcfly]

The AI seems very Solid, they don't fall for Traps that easily and Retreat or Flank when they know they will get Butchered. Strategy matters.

[Rizilliant]

So,... Youve all just said you dont use Overwatch, a game feature, because it doesnt work, and enemies dont fall for trap.... Thats my point! You only have 2 abilities, and overwatch for the opening hours! If you cant use overwatch, and traps are useless, that leaves some knights with only the basic attack.. You dont see a problem with that?

Originally posted by Wendek:

You might be too used to XCOM and the likes. Overwatch is a niche feature in this game, you're absolutely not supposed to use "Overwatch creep" as your main battle strategy. As in, I'm pretty sure I've had stretches of 5+ missions where I didn't use Overwatch a single time on Hard, and had no problems.

As I said, I dont expect to turtle.. but the abilities feel useless, and the AI feels like I am playing against a computer, as opposed to playing a game

[Uryens]

Originally posted by Lets Go Brandon! FJB:

So,... Youve all just said you dont use Overwatch, a game feature, because it doesnt work, and enemies dont fall for trap.... Thats my point! You only have 2 abilities, and overwatch for the opening hours! If you cant use overwatch, and traps are useless, that leaves some knights with only the basic attack.. You dont see a problem with that?

No, I have specifically stated that I used overwatch precisely because I know the enemy will avoid to attack those knights, which allows me to control their movements.

I would see a HUGE problem with an Ai that it´s unable to counter such a basic tactic as "I stay here and the enemy comes to be killed."

Originally posted by Lets Go Brandon! FJB:

, and the AI feels like I am playing against a computer, as opposed to playing a game

WHat? What do you think is "playing a game" but "playing against a computer"?
It looks like you just want an easier game.

[Rizilliant]

Originally posted by Uryens:

Originally posted by Lets Go Brandon! FJB:

So,... Youve all just said you dont use Overwatch, a game feature, because it doesnt work, and enemies dont fall for trap.... Thats my point! You only have 2 abilities, and overwatch for the opening hours! If you cant use overwatch, and traps are useless, that leaves some knights with only the basic attack.. You dont see a problem with that?

No, I have specifically stated that I used overwatch precisely because I know the enemy will avoid to attack those knights, which allows me to control their movements.

I would see a HUGE problem with an Ai that it´s unable to counter such a basic tactic as "I stay here and the enemy comes to be killed."

Originally posted by Lets Go Brandon! FJB:

, and the AI feels like I am playing against a computer, as opposed to playing a game

WHat? What do you think is "playing a game" but "playing against a computer"?
It looks like you just want an easier game.

You seem to be deliberately misinterpreting what is being said.

Overwatch is not "Ice Wall".. Thats not its purpose.. You just have decided to make use of it as a non functional mechanic.

You know exactly what was meant by "playing against a computer".. Youre being disingenuous, and its childish

[Uryens]

No, I dont know what you mean.

Playing a singple player game is ALWAYS playing against a computer. Your issue is you just want an AI unable to counter a tactic as simple as "I´m standing here".

If a human player would not move their knights against enemies with overwatch active... why the AI must do it?

[Rizilliant]

You dont know the difference between playing a well designed game, and playing against a computer... Then we have nothing more to discuss..

No, youre not playing against a computer.. You are playing a stage, set by the developers.. Its set dressing.. Not an actual opponent. The design should have moves and countermoves, and more counter moves.. Not a single, binary response to each player move. Thats poor design! There is nothing dynamic about this design. As you said, overwatch doesnt work.. Its a fence.. Apparently not working, is good game design for you

[Darkeus]

Lol, A bunch of words that really say... nothing at all.

What is the AI? The computer controlling enemies through programming. You are playing against the AI AND the set piece of the battle.

And no, enemies should not just walk into your overwatch blindly lol.