Thanks for wasting my time

[tm0Lif3]

Not sure why the devs like to waste gamers time. The event Blood Money. Sent Sir Tegyr and he returned with just +20% XP and suffers an injury. Read somewhere that it should add +40% XP and increase loyalty by 2.

So i have to replay a whole mission (Curse of Sir Bors) which took roughly 2 hours again to try out what are the outcomes of other Knights? This is really not a good game design. Whoever designs this deserves even more tight slap.

[LastMinit]

Just take the injury. You'll recover. It'll be okay.

[Brannigan's Law]

Wait, so you "read somewhere" spoilers with conflicting information and are blaming the developers for your failure? Maybe if you actually spent 15 seconds reading the prompt you'd have have gleaned a clue as to who to send.

Or if you are going to reload anyway you could have just quickly failed a mission and viewed the event outcome before reloading and finishing the mission.

[Tom Cormie]

I think Sir Tegyr was too low level.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2835913556

[Hugh J. Load]

You're partially correct, OP. It does reward 40% xp and 2 loyalty, but only if you succeed. In this case, the success parameter is that the knight is no more than 2 levels below the current maximum. E.g. If your highest level knight is level 10, then Tegyr would need to be level 8 or higher to succeed.

The parameters for every event are actually in a config folder in the game files - here's the specific lines for Blood Money:

 Type=FollowEvent
			EventName=BloodMoney_Success
			EventFailed=BloodMoney_Failed
			ConditionValue=2
			ConditionType=herolevelmaxdiff 

Most events give hints in the text as to who should be sent, though I agree that some could be made more clear. For my first playthrough, I found the file and copied it into a blank txt file so I could refer back to it easily. I'd highly recommend it!

From the game's installation folder, go to "Cfg" > "Event" > then open the "AllEvents" file in Notepad. It can be a bit difficult to read at first, but you eventually figure it out. Feel free to reply here or DM me if you need a hand working it!

[tm0Lif3]

Originally posted by TheGrongler:

You're partially correct, OP. It does reward 40% xp and 2 loyalty, but only if you succeed. In this case, the success parameter is that the knight is no more than 2 levels below the current maximum. E.g. If your highest level knight is level 10, then Tegyr would need to be level 8 or higher to succeed.

The parameters for every event are actually in a config folder in the game files - here's the specific lines for Blood Money:

 Type=FollowEvent
			EventName=BloodMoney_Success
			EventFailed=BloodMoney_Failed
			ConditionValue=2
			ConditionType=herolevelmaxdiff 

Most events give hints in the text as to who should be sent, though I agree that some could be made more clear. For my first playthrough, I found the file and copied it into a blank txt file so I could refer back to it easily. I'd highly recommend it!

From the game's installation folder, go to "Cfg" > "Event" > then open the "AllEvents" file in Notepad. It can be a bit difficult to read at first, but you eventually figure it out. Feel free to reply here or DM me if you need a hand working it!

thanks! that helps alot. found the file too.

[tm0Lif3]

Originally posted by TheGrongler:

You're partially correct, OP. It does reward 40% xp and 2 loyalty, but only if you succeed. In this case, the success parameter is that the knight is no more than 2 levels below the current maximum. E.g. If your highest level knight is level 10, then Tegyr would need to be level 8 or higher to succeed.

The parameters for every event are actually in a config folder in the game files - here's the specific lines for Blood Money:

 Type=FollowEvent
			EventName=BloodMoney_Success
			EventFailed=BloodMoney_Failed
			ConditionValue=2
			ConditionType=herolevelmaxdiff 

Most events give hints in the text as to who should be sent, though I agree that some could be made more clear. For my first playthrough, I found the file and copied it into a blank txt file so I could refer back to it easily. I'd highly recommend it!

From the game's installation folder, go to "Cfg" > "Event" > then open the "AllEvents" file in Notepad. It can be a bit difficult to read at first, but you eventually figure it out. Feel free to reply here or DM me if you need a hand working it!

i have a follow up question.. since max level of 2.. when is the trigger point? let's say Isolde is currently level 10 and Sir Tegyr is Level 8. the max level is 2. what will happen if upon returning from mission, Isolde level increased to level 11?

[Hugh J. Load]

The trigger is when you start the event. So as long as Tegyr was within those 2 levels when you sent him, it'll succeed even if Isolde levelled from completing the mission

[tm0Lif3]

Originally posted by TheGrongler:

The trigger is when you start the event. So as long as Tegyr was within those 2 levels when you sent him, it'll succeed even if Isolde levelled from completing the mission

thanks that is good to know. anyway to reduce the frustration i purposely put isolde idle without training afraid that i need to waste time again to replay the same mission 3 times.

[Frank Reynolds]

Originally posted by tm0Lif3:

Not sure why the devs like to waste gamers time. The event Blood Money. Sent Sir Tegyr and he returned with just +20% XP and suffers an injury. Read somewhere that it should add +40% XP and increase loyalty by 2.

So i have to replay a whole mission (Curse of Sir Bors) which took roughly 2 hours again to try out what are the outcomes of other Knights? This is really not a good game design. Whoever designs this deserves even more tight slap.

LOL the game is supposed to be about making the best out of bad situations, and you're getting mad at the dev. because you made the wrong choice and don't want to deal with the minimal set back.
You rode the short bus to school didn't you?

[tm0Lif3]

Originally posted by Bruce Mitchell:

Originally posted by tm0Lif3:

Not sure why the devs like to waste gamers time. The event Blood Money. Sent Sir Tegyr and he returned with just +20% XP and suffers an injury. Read somewhere that it should add +40% XP and increase loyalty by 2.

So i have to replay a whole mission (Curse of Sir Bors) which took roughly 2 hours again to try out what are the outcomes of other Knights? This is really not a good game design. Whoever designs this deserves even more tight slap.

LOL the game is supposed to be about making the best out of bad situations, and you're getting mad at the dev. because you made the wrong choice and don't want to deal with the minimal set back.
You rode the short bus to school didn't you?

explain how you have no idea on what you are talking about? events are random and loyalty heavily depends on the events. and they are fixed. a wrong decision will end up not getting fully loyalty for the required team that you want.

how is it not wasting gamers time to know what are the outcomes before trying each of them out by repeatedly replaying the same mission? the only way are the people who have already provided the config files and its conditions and those who really have repeatedly replayed the missions. so before trying to act smart just use some common sense.

[kirill-busidow]

Originally posted by tm0Lif3:

how is it not wasting gamers time to know what are the outcomes before trying each of them out by repeatedly replaying the same mission? the only way are the people who have already provided the config files and its conditions and those who really have repeatedly replayed the missions. so before trying to act smart just use some common sense.

This is called "choice and consequences". Not all choices are optimal.


Also, if you match heroes with your alignment, you can just ignore this events. They are mostly for heroes of opposite alignment to yours.

[Pure Pwnage]

"Generally if it's a duel, it needs a defender/champion, if it's a beast hunt/assassination/anything like that, vanguard/marksman, and if it requires magic or talking send an arcanist/sage. Then, separately, there are obvious religious restrictions, like you shouldn't send a pagan to answer a church's request for aid." -RPG Codex

[DaviddesJ]

I'm really confused by the whole idea of this thread. "I was given some choices, I chose one, I don't like the result, so I have to waste my time replaying the entire level"? Why not just keep the choice you made?

[Frank Reynolds]

Originally posted by DaviddesJ:

I'm really confused by the whole idea of this thread. "I was given some choices, I chose one, I don't like the result, so I have to waste my time replaying the entire level"? Why not just keep the choice you made?

These people should be watching movies/reading books, they can't handle consequences to their actions. I'm sure he's like that in his everyday life too, blame everyone but himself for his failures.

[DaviddesJ]

Originally posted by Bruce Mitchell:

These people should be watching movies/reading books

Reading books is even more painful. When you get to the point in the book where something happens that isn't what you wanted to happen, you have to throw that book away and start another book!