Horizon Zero Dawn™ Complete Edition

Horizon Zero Dawn™ Complete Edition

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Alex_Khves 2022년 2월 14일 오후 3시 05분
VRAM usage is terrible
It's a great game, but for heaven's sake, how technically bad it is. If your game have 3Gb VRAM in Minimal system requirements 3Gb VRAM should be enough to load all textures properly. But even 4Gb not enough for lowest textures. Guerilla are you okay with it?
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Monsieur blap 2022년 2월 14일 오후 3시 23분 
Clearly they are ok with it, and frankly I can't really see what your issue with this is. Care to elaborate? And it is hard to judge about this without knowing the design and implementation choices that were made during the development of the game, don't you think?
WreckWren 2022년 2월 14일 오후 4시 29분 
Sadly this game's VRAM usage & texture streaming are totally whack/broken, and since the devs refuse to address it this long after launch I would say they never will.
It's hilarious to set the game to Ultra textures and watch it just choose to display the low textures despite 2GB+ free VRAM at the time.
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Eye of Newt 2022년 2월 14일 오후 7시 06분 
The VRAM indicator in the Graphics tab definitely produces lowball estimates. I think at one point I saw the game take up 6 - 7 gigs on my 6700XT, but the actual indicator claimed only ~4.8 GB.
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Alex_Khves 2022년 2월 14일 오후 10시 23분 
Monsieur blap님이 먼저 게시:
Clearly they are ok with it, and frankly I can't really see what your issue with this is. Care to elaborate?
I don't want to look at blurry textures in the game if my PC meets the minimum system requirements
Eye of Newt 2022년 2월 14일 오후 10시 32분 
There are known issues with <=4GB cards and this game. The usual workaround is to lower the resolution or quality or both.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBD3xzJd5KU

This is old, and some of the issues may have been patched out, but this should give you some idea of what you can optimize for to reduce VRAM usage without really negatively affecting your gameplay experience.
DM 2022년 2월 15일 오전 7시 24분 
Alex_Khves님이 먼저 게시:
It's a great game, but for heaven's sake, how technically bad it is. If your game have 3Gb VRAM in Minimal system requirements 3Gb VRAM should be enough to load all textures properly. But even 4Gb not enough for lowest textures. Guerilla are you okay with it?

Minimum requirements are basically "get the game to load and run, but will look like ass"

Anyone gaming right now on a 3GB GPU should expect to be upgrading soon, as even 4GB would be considered below spec for modern games.
David / Waveshaper 2022년 2월 15일 오전 7시 39분 
Alex_Khves님이 먼저 게시:
Monsieur blap님이 먼저 게시:
Clearly they are ok with it, and frankly I can't really see what your issue with this is. Care to elaborate?
I don't want to look at blurry textures in the game if my PC meets the minimum system requirements
Well bad news for you then, because that's quite what minimum requirements is all about. You can run the game and it should look like crap if you only hit the bare minimum. If you own a 3Gb VRAM GPU, I don't know what to tell you if you think that is enough. It was when the one before the previous console generation limited most game's hardware requirement. My only upgrade with with now 9 generations old i7 2600k, 8Gb RAM combo was going from a HD4850 to a GTX1060 6Gb when it came out, and that was the low budget version from the 3 available, and this was roughly 5 years ago.

I don't know what hardware you are rolling with but it sounds like an upgrade is way overdue and you have the audacity to blame others for... progression, that you are not keeping up with I guess? I'm not one to upgrade every year as you can see but frankly even from my perspective you are brutally behind.
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Tiasmoon 2022년 2월 15일 오전 8시 10분 
Alex_Khves님이 먼저 게시:
It's a great game, but for heaven's sake, how technically bad it is. If your game have 3Gb VRAM in Minimal system requirements 3Gb VRAM should be enough to load all textures properly. But even 4Gb not enough for lowest textures. Guerilla are you okay with it?

VRAM usage is based on graphics settings and resolution too. Are you trying to play the game at lowest settings and resolution and still dont have enough VRAM? Or are you using higher settings/resolution?
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Alex_Khves 2022년 2월 16일 오전 12시 03분 
Powerwank3000님이 먼저 게시:
Alex_Khves님이 먼저 게시:
It's a great game, but for heaven's sake, how technically bad it is. If your game have 3Gb VRAM in Minimal system requirements 3Gb VRAM should be enough to load all textures properly. But even 4Gb not enough for lowest textures. Guerilla are you okay with it?

Minimum requirements are basically "get the game to load and run, but will look like ass"

Anyone gaming right now on a 3GB GPU should expect to be upgrading soon, as even 4GB would be considered below spec for modern games.
4GB enough for medium/high settings in the most of current games. Playing Cyberpunk 2077 without any problems since release
Alex_Khves 2022년 2월 16일 오전 12시 04분 
Tiasmoon님이 먼저 게시:
Alex_Khves님이 먼저 게시:
It's a great game, but for heaven's sake, how technically bad it is. If your game have 3Gb VRAM in Minimal system requirements 3Gb VRAM should be enough to load all textures properly. But even 4Gb not enough for lowest textures. Guerilla are you okay with it?

VRAM usage is based on graphics settings and resolution too. Are you trying to play the game at lowest settings and resolution and still dont have enough VRAM? Or are you using higher settings/resolution?
Minimal system requirements for 1080p not for minimal resolution
Alex_Khves 2022년 2월 16일 오전 12시 07분 
David / Waveshaper님이 먼저 게시:
Alex_Khves님이 먼저 게시:
I don't want to look at blurry textures in the game if my PC meets the minimum system requirements
Well bad news for you then, because that's quite what minimum requirements is all about. You can run the game and it should look like crap if you only hit the bare minimum. If you own a 3Gb VRAM GPU, I don't know what to tell you if you think that is enough. It was when the one before the previous console generation limited most game's hardware requirement. My only upgrade with with now 9 generations old i7 2600k, 8Gb RAM combo was going from a HD4850 to a GTX1060 6Gb when it came out, and that was the low budget version from the 3 available, and this was roughly 5 years ago.

I don't know what hardware you are rolling with but it sounds like an upgrade is way overdue and you have the audacity to blame others for... progression, that you are not keeping up with I guess? I'm not one to upgrade every year as you can see but frankly even from my perspective you are brutally behind.
It's just an excuse for poor optimization. The game requires more than the minimum system requirements, while in other modern games I have no problems. I haven't played any game on the lowest graphics settings yet. The same God of War works excellent on my PC
Alex_Khves 2022년 2월 16일 오전 12시 09분 
Xenophobe님이 먼저 게시:
Alex_Khves님이 먼저 게시:
I don't want to look at blurry textures in the game if my PC meets the minimum system requirements
minimum requirements usually means 'at low/medium settings' ... even recommended doesn't mean ultra with all the bells & whistles enabled ...

have you tried the upscaling settings yet? for your card put it on Simple and Balanced (Quality works for my 1070, but it's an 8gig card).
Yeah, I tried upscaling and all lower than max setting looks like a crap. As a rule, System Requirements are specified for 1080p
Eye of Newt 2022년 2월 16일 오전 6시 38분 
You might want to try the kinds of optimizations a player using a Ryzen 5600G used. Now that said, because the APU has to use sytem RAM, the "GPU" effectively had 8GB of RAM to work with, but because it was using Vega cores it had comparatively weak graphics processing power. With that caveat in mind,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywq59DYXKbY
Tiasmoon 2022년 2월 16일 오전 10시 50분 
Alex_Khves님이 먼저 게시:
It's just an excuse for poor optimization. The game requires more than the minimum system requirements, while in other modern games I have no problems. I haven't played any game on the lowest graphics settings yet. The same God of War works excellent on my PC

Min specs dont assume high settings. Meeting them doesnt automatically mean you can run the game at 1080p on high settings.
Ofcourse it requires more then the minimum, that is what recommended is for.
The recommended for this game is 6GB. On 1080p with higher settings the game uses just over 4GB. (up to 4.3GB ish) With performance settings, it uses just below 4GB.

You can still play a game if you dont have enough VRAM, but it will slow the game down to some extend.

Nothing to with ''excuse for poor optimization''. Its always been that way. If you want a good experience aim for atleast recommended. Otherwise accept minimum and hope they were modest or just didnt test enough, and it still ends up running very well for you.

Most devs or publishers set their recommended pretty low too (because they want more people to play their game and have a good experience), so its not a hard standard to meet for most games.
Tiasmoon 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2022년 2월 16일 오전 10시 55분
Alex_Khves 2022년 2월 16일 오후 2시 24분 
Eye of Newt님이 먼저 게시:
You might want to try the kinds of optimizations a player using a Ryzen 5600G used. Now that said, because the APU has to use sytem RAM, the "GPU" effectively had 8GB of RAM to work with, but because it was using Vega cores it had comparatively weak graphics processing power. With that caveat in mind,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywq59DYXKbY
I guess I don't understand something about FSR. In this video graphics very good with Performance mode. On my PC graphics very blurry and with a lot of jaggies in the image even in the Quality mode. What am I doing wrong?
Alex_Khves 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2022년 2월 16일 오후 3시 02분
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