In a cauldron.

[LeftPaw]

I have entered my first cauldron, the one you are directed to and was wondering how you manage the boss robot and all the watchers when released. I have tried stealth but they seem to know where you are regardless. There are just to many of them plus the boss can near enough one shot you.

[Tiasmoon]

引用自 Lord Of War：

Bloody hell, I remember that cauldron, was stupid enough to get there literally right at the beginning with just arrow and few resources on Ultra Hard. Spends minutes dodging his fire spits and shooting weak arrows.

WetNose, tripwire is your best friend in this game. Upgrade it like there's no tomorrow (400+dmg per wire is not a joke :cupup: )

I remember I laughed the first time one of those spit fireballs. I dont laugh at them anymore, haha.

[Grizzly UK]

引用自 WetNose：

引用自 JapanGamer29：

Kill the watchers before releasing the Bellowback. That should help a bit.

There are only 2 watchers before you release the boss or Bellowback and you can't take them over as they walk near a electric field that knocks you back when you try.
After you release the Bellowback though you get a virtual army of watchers that enter.

I have tried a lot of things the first one being to target the Bellowbacks weak parts but it one shots me before I can do much damage. Traps and such just seem to get it angry.
I think I have gone in to early and need to be more powerful. I am attempting this just after clearing the bandit camp.

I am playing on easy.

When you first enter the main core of the Cauldron go into sneak and position yourself carefully, then use Lure Call on the Watchers to draw them away from their circular patrol. Once they approach you they are easy to kill, don't bother with Overriding them because they won't last long enough to make much difference. After that you should make sure you equip the right weapons for the coming fight. Fire Bellowbacks are weak to Freeze damage but strong against Fire damage. So you want to Freeze it first, which should cause it to stop, then add more Freeze damage to stack it up, finally hit the Blaze cargo on it's back and/or under it's neck to make it go boom! Just make sure you aren't standing too close! Alternate between adding more Freeze damage and shooting the Blaze containers. Take out the Watchers that join in once the Fire Bellowback is frozen.

If you're playing on Easy then your damage dealt is increased to 150% while damage received is only 50%, so if the Fire Bellowback one-shots you then check what armour you have equipped. In the early parts of the game the best option for fire resistance is the Nora Survivor Heavy, which gives 15 Resist to all elemental damage (Fire, Freeze, Shock & Corruption) plus 2 mod slots which you should fill with your best Outfit Weave mods. However, when you arrive at Daytower you'll find a merchant that sells much better equipment, including the Carja Blazon Heavy (50 Fire Resist plus 2 mod slots) and a few Shadow variant weapons.

[Zloth]

You can NOT lay down as many traps/wires as you like. I know, I tried that in cauldron zeta. I started right in front of the boss and, by the time I got around the circle to the front again, the stuff I had dropped had vanished. I think somebody said there was a limit of 30 items?

What skills you have will make a huge difference. When I did it, I had concentration and used it to shoot the 2 watchers right in the eye. One arrow takes them down. I didn't use any traps but I might have used a couple of electric tripwires - those don't do much damage but they can knock the boss down.

For the most part, though, I just did a whole lot of running away, jumping around, and shooting. If a watcher got close, I would give it a whack then keep running. I also used my healing. A lot.

One big thing I discovered: toggle sprint doesn't work well for me. When I stop, the sprinting toggles itself off so I kept getting confused about whether I was sprinting or not. I changed it so holding down shift sprints while not holding it doesn't and it helped me a ton.

[LeftPaw]

Just to clarify, I can't get the trip wires to finalise on any surface in there, they stick to one wall but not the other. There are TWO watchers until you release boss, then a load more come through the force field doors.
Are you sure it's not been updated and been made harder since you guys played it?

[CindyK_JA]

I used the Tripcaster successfully in the last few days for the first two cauldrons. I also killed the initial watchers from a distance before doing any 'site preparation.'

[Tiasmoon]

引用自 WetNose：

Just to clarify, I can't get the trip wires to finalise on any surface in there, they stick to one wall but not the other. There are TWO watchers until you release boss, then a load more come through the force field doors.
Are you sure it's not been updated and been made harder since you guys played it?

I played it minutes before I made the first comment here. And I was playing on Very Hard, not easy. Tripwires were my main source of damage.

The initial watchers were oneshot with an arrow to the eye. You can do that with the first bow and arrows, without any upgrades. I used explosive trip wires to take out the ones that spawned, but mostly because I didnt want to waste time on them. I didnt set any trip wires before the fight, just during.

They dont have to be placed on a wall. You can place it on most objects or even the floor. Outside an easy way to place them is to pick 2 trees or rocks and place it between them.

[Sunny]

Get some Fire resistance potions.
You become practically immune to the bellowback.

[gaqo]

引用自 WetNose：

Just to clarify, I can't get the trip wires to finalise on any surface in there, they stick to one wall but not the other. There are TWO watchers until you release boss, then a load more come through the force field doors.
Are you sure it's not been updated and been made harder since you guys played it?

The tripwires should work on any hard surface.

Sometimes it's best just to return later. The thunderjaw cauldron took me a number of attempts. Just go off, practice, get a few skills and some better weapons/armour, and when you return it'll be easier.

Two good skills(mentioned above, the one where you can call a robot, perfect for watchers as eye lens shot kills them. And pick up unused traps skill).

[RageOfPerun]

Spam it with Freeze arrows and bombs then target its 2 weak spots with damage arrows its should go down fast

[Grizzly UK]

引用自 WetNose：

Just to clarify, I can't get the trip wires to finalise on any surface in there, they stick to one wall but not the other. There are TWO watchers until you release boss, then a load more come through the force field doors.
Are you sure it's not been updated and been made harder since you guys played it?

If you can't get the Tripcaster to place Tripwires correctly then you're trying to place them in the wrong places. There are always two Watchers patrolling every Cauldron's core which can, and should, be killed before you release the "boss" machine! No, it hasn't been updated to be made harder, I completed it a couple of weeks ago (and multiple times before on both Normal and Ultra Hard) and I'm currently on a new play-through but I haven't quite gotten that far on this newest play-through! There's lots of advice being provided for you, but you seem to be a little fixated on "I can't place trip wires", so I'm wondering just what weapons and armours you've actually purchased so far?

If you're struggling on any part of the game, just leave it for a while, go off and do some other quests; farm machines for parts, mods, shards; purchase better weapons/armours to replace whichever ones you currently have; level up and earn more skill points so you can unlock more skills. Once you feel more confident and have better gear/skills etc then return to try again.

[Mc Dye O Reddy]

Easy mode? Use correct ammo versus primary nodes. Scan every enemy, read their weakness and respond accordingly. I rarely use trip wires in easy mode unless it's a hunter mission. In easy mode 90% of everything can be killed with 3 or less arrows. Too easy. Knowing is half the battle - aiming is the other half.
Edit: oh and dodging is the 3rd half...

[Xautos]

引用自 JL::Jose-Juan Kenobi：

What's the boss? is it the Fire Bellowback?
What weapons/outfits/mods/skills you have at hand? What difficulty?

The Bellowback has two very big target weaknesses, the sac at the front under the mouth then the big sac at the back. Use hardpoint arrows and only aim at those areas, use Concentration for better aim.
You should be able to take down the watchers fast with one good shot to their eyes (regular arrows), or the big explosions from the Bellowback when you destroy their sacs should be enough.

You can also try freeze arrows and/or bombs, or even tie it down and deal with the watchers first.

Before you start the fight you can lay down all the blast traps and tripcasters you want.
Use proper outfit, fire resistance outfit + melee or fire resist mods, and fire resistance potions.

Bellowbacks attacks are easy to evade, don't get up close and don't sit around, you roll to evade attacks, it'll be easy.

however you can easily negate any of this advice with a good stealth outfit and stealth mods, sharpshooter arrows and some good cover to hide behind the moment the arrow is away. The bellowback will go to investigate, but if you continue moving around the target enough and stay in cover, they will stop searching after a few seconds and go back to their original position, from where you can fire another arrow and take out the biggest weakness first, the bubble container on the back of the machine, above its tail.

[LeftPaw]

引用自 Xautos：

引用自 JL::Jose-Juan Kenobi：

What's the boss? is it the Fire Bellowback?
What weapons/outfits/mods/skills you have at hand? What difficulty?

The Bellowback has two very big target weaknesses, the sac at the front under the mouth then the big sac at the back. Use hardpoint arrows and only aim at those areas, use Concentration for better aim.
You should be able to take down the watchers fast with one good shot to their eyes (regular arrows), or the big explosions from the Bellowback when you destroy their sacs should be enough.

You can also try freeze arrows and/or bombs, or even tie it down and deal with the watchers first.

Before you start the fight you can lay down all the blast traps and tripcasters you want.
Use proper outfit, fire resistance outfit + melee or fire resist mods, and fire resistance potions.

Bellowbacks attacks are easy to evade, don't get up close and don't sit around, you roll to evade attacks, it'll be easy.

however you can easily negate any of this advice with a good stealth outfit and stealth mods, sharpshooter arrows and some good cover to hide behind the moment the arrow is away. The bellowback will go to investigate, but if you continue moving around the target enough and stay in cover, they will stop searching after a few seconds and go back to their original position, from where you can fire another arrow and take out the biggest weakness first, the bubble container on the back of the machine, above its tail.

That's just it, because of the confined space they are not easy to evade, also I have the best stealth gear available if that would be any good in a situation were the boss see's you whatever you do.
I have long left this caldron and am now miles further on in the game, and everything since has been a piece of cake.

[Grizzly UK]

引用自 WetNose：

引用自 Xautos：

Bellowbacks attacks are easy to evade, don't get up close and don't sit around, you roll to evade attacks, it'll be easy.

however you can easily negate any of this advice with a good stealth outfit and stealth mods, sharpshooter arrows and some good cover to hide behind the moment the arrow is away. The bellowback will go to investigate, but if you continue moving around the target enough and stay in cover, they will stop searching after a few seconds and go back to their original position, from where you can fire another arrow and take out the biggest weakness first, the bubble container on the back of the machine, above its tail.

That's just it, because of the confined space they are not easy to evade, also I have the best stealth gear available if that would be any good in a situation were the boss see's you whatever you do.
I have long left this caldron and am now miles further on in the game, and everything since has been a piece of cake.

Stealth gear isn't much use in the last part of any Cauldron, you should be using appropriate resistance gear and potions! But if you're having such trouble with the final machine in the easiest Cauldron then you're going to have problems with the final machines in every Cauldron. *shrug*

[Tiasmoon]

引用自 WetNose：

That's just it, because of the confined space they are not easy to evade, also I have the best stealth gear available if that would be any good in a situation were the boss see's you whatever you do.
I have long left this caldron and am now miles further on in the game, and everything since has been a piece of cake.

There's a dodge button in this game. Even up close its possible to avoid all attacks. I only use stealth gear myself, so no bonus resistance or anything like that. If you did use those (and potions) you could pretty much completely block elemental damage.

Dont know why this one gave you such a challenge when you can kill them outside no problem. They arent stronger in there. I had a hard time with that one, but I had a much harder one with the ones outside since there were 2 of them + other enemies there.

I found that most enemies in this game are only really hard untill you figure out what weapons or tactics work well against them.

Stalkers? Destroy their stealth generator. Freeze bombs. Explosive tripwires. Electric Trip wires. Glinthawk? Use fire arrows to drop them out of the sky. Etc.

Each enemy has a number of ways you can make fighting them much easier.

I guess outside you rely too much on stealth maybe? If you havent yet at this point, its a good idea to try out each of the different weapons and ammo types. Each of them can have a huge impact depending on the enemy you are fighting.