this is what aloy was going to look like

[Lone Starr]

what she was supposed to look like
https://imgur.com/a/agTGTqI

instead we got this
https://imgur.com/a/oGHkMlm

[Lone Starr]

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She's a cutie. I think they made Aloy more masculine to "challange traditional gender roles", like they always do nowadays in big media productions. So it's a bit of cultural marxist, feminist propaganda, but the game is so good that one has to look past that and play it anyway.

Masculine? Lol, you don't hang around many women do you? They're quite different from the anime ones. You would notice if you had the chance to be near one.

no one said otherwise. why are you appealing solely to realism and averageness? art should be about making idealized and exceptionally beautiful creations too. im not saying video games themselves are art but their assets definitely can and should be if possible. this game is about fighting giant robot dinosaurs in a world that looks alien, so why should the people in it have to look so average and realistic? huge missed opportunity imo

[Ad Hominem]

I mean of course she isn't a runway model, the whole setting in neolithic with robot dinosaurs.

[Friends with Benedicts]

@Lone Starr that's the thing about design. Some will go for cartoonish and exaggerated proportions while others will try a more realistic view. That decision may have a huge number of different reasons for it, but that's what makes each game different. And of course it may be considered a bad choice by some while a good choice by others. To me this game feels better with a realistic look. I'm actually a little tired from cartoon games, I usually stay away from them. I'm glad they went for realistic on this one.

[Ad Hominem]

Publicado originalmente por CMDR Friends with Benedicts:

@Lone Starr that's the thing about design. Some will go for cartoonish and exaggerated proportions while others will try a more realistic view. That decision may have a huge number of different reasons for it, but that's what makes each game different. And of course it may be considered a bad choice by some while a good choice by others. To me this game feels better with a realistic look. I'm actually a little tired from cartoon games, I usually stay away from them. I'm glad they went for realistic on this one.

If anything that hair would probably get in the way and she would realistically have it cut shorter or braided back and out of the way.

[Hathur]

Publicado originalmente por Lone Starr:

what she was supposed to look like
https://imgur.com/a/agTGTqI

instead we got this
https://imgur.com/a/oGHkMlm

you're comparing concept art that was going for a cartoonish look to an image that is aiming for real-life depiction of a human. Comparing the two is idiotic.

[Lone Starr]

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you're comparing a cartoon to a much more detailed 3d render. if they created something more like the concept art it would be better and you know it

Isn't that what your post is aiming to do? Comparing a 2D drawing with a 3D render?
Rather hypocritical.

its not hypocritical, i concede that a 3d model looks "better" in a sense because its more detailed and realistic, but using my imagination i can tell that it could have been even better than that if it was based off the concept art

and theres nothing stopping them from making a 3d render that looks more like the concept art. even using scans of a real person doesnt stop them. it didnt stop the makers in RE2 remake from changing claire redfield to make her look more feminine than the girl she was based on. which reminds me how unfortunately it seems the only games made with extremely attractive and idealized feminine forms anymore are made in places like japan now

[energize]

Publicado originalmente por Hathur:

Publicado originalmente por Lone Starr:

what she was supposed to look like
https://imgur.com/a/agTGTqI

instead we got this
https://imgur.com/a/oGHkMlm

you're comparing concept art that was going for a cartoonish look to an image that is aiming for real-life depiction of a human. Comparing the two is idiotic.

Not to mention they tell someone in the thread they can't compare a 3D render they posted to a 2D drawing.

[Friends with Benedicts]

@Ad Hominem

Ah! By realistic I mean realistic proportions. I mean, I love Monster Hunter, a game about some dudes and gals running around with 4 meter (13 foot) long weapons while swinging them as if they were a baseball bat

[Ryan Fenton]

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Yeah - that's because her voice actor:

https://www.youtube.com/user/HAWPOfficial/videos

She's awesome.

I think it's fine to just get the voice though.

what did you mean by this?

HAWP stands for Hey Ash, Whatcha Playin? It's the series starring Ashley Burch, the voice acress for Aloy.

She also did the voice of Tiny Tina in the Borderlands series.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3950075/

But HAWP is still some of her best comedy.

[Lone Starr]

Publicado originalmente por Hathur:

Publicado originalmente por Lone Starr:

what she was supposed to look like
https://imgur.com/a/agTGTqI

instead we got this
https://imgur.com/a/oGHkMlm

you're comparing concept art that was going for a cartoonish look to an image that is aiming for real-life depiction of a human. Comparing the two is idiotic.

comparing the two isnt idiotic. im criticizing their choice to forgo a highly stylized and interesting looking character for boring realism

[Lone Starr]

Publicado originalmente por Ad Hominem:

Publicado originalmente por CMDR Friends with Benedicts:

@Lone Starr that's the thing about design. Some will go for cartoonish and exaggerated proportions while others will try a more realistic view. That decision may have a huge number of different reasons for it, but that's what makes each game different. And of course it may be considered a bad choice by some while a good choice by others. To me this game feels better with a realistic look. I'm actually a little tired from cartoon games, I usually stay away from them. I'm glad they went for realistic on this one.

If anything that hair would probably get in the way and she would realistically have it cut shorter or braided back and out of the way.

realistically she wouldnt be fighting giant robot dinosaurs 😂

[gh0stwriter]

@Spawn of Totoro Actually..... if you check the original game development footage (its on youtube if you look around for it) The original aloy character model was in fact based on the artwork... and it wasn't changed untill like 2014 or so? So for most of the development of the game she acutally looked like the artwork...

[Spawn of Totoro]

Publicado originalmente por Lone Starr:

comparing the two isnt idiotic. im criticizing their choice to forgo a highly stylized and interesting looking character for boring realism

I think that the one in the game is highly stylized and interesting looking.

But that is the issue with art, it is always subjective and in the eye of the beholder.

Publicado originalmente por gh0stwriter:

@Spawn of Totoro Actually..... if you check the original game development footage (its on youtube if you look around for it) The original aloy character model was in fact based on the artwork... and it wasn't changed untill like 2014 or so? So for most of the development of the game she acutally looked like the artwork...

And? The character in the drawing is still concept art and never intended to be in the game.
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[Lone Starr]

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I mean of course she isn't a runway model, the whole setting in neolithic with robot dinosaurs.

why not? if EA forgoes realism to put women as soldiers in a world war 2 game, why cant we have runway models in games about fighting robot dinosaurs?

[Ad Hominem]

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I mean of course she isn't a runway model, the whole setting in neolithic with robot dinosaurs.

why not? if EA forgoes realism to put women as soldiers in a world war 2 game, why cant we have runway models in games about fighting robot dinosaurs?

Idk I guess that's not how they wanted to make that character.