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2. If your impression of Haku is that he's "a lazy bum," you've missed quite a bit -- a major theme of the games is the difference between what he thinks, what he says, and what he does. He complains a lot, but he always goes out of his way to help anybody who needs him. Remember when he fixed the mill? Invented multiple new kinds of confections with Rulutieh? Framed Moznu for kidnapping Anju to protect Nosuri? Helped Ukon uncover and stop an underground bug-fighting ring? The list goes on -- he's not the lazy bum you think he is.
3. Of course he lived. Akuruturuka are nearly invincible; you can't assume they're dead until you've seen them turn to salt. You weren't ever supposed to think he was dead.
4. Raiko's characterization was totally off in the anime; best to completely put that aside, because you don't know anything about who he is. Real spoilers: he's not the real puppetmaster.
Seriously, you can't a 60+ hour VN to answer all of your questions right at the beginning.
Also, buy the game.
2. fixing the mill is more of a brain labor than manual labor (which is what he complains a lot). same with the recipes and framing. the bug fight is semi-coerced to him. helping Kuon is second nature to him as she's his savior and totally not because he's fallen for her. nope, he's not.
3. yea you got me here.
4. Ohh....
all I'll say is eventually. definitely low priority because there's an inch of censorship.
Oshtor saved his life and died in the process. Haku think he need to take his place because he´s feeling responsable about his death (he let Anju get close to the fight). Also, he care a lot about his friends, his brother, and the city where he lives. Those are his motivations. Sure, he is a lazy bum but a responsable one, if someone need him, he will help with no doubt.
I kinda agree with you here. I didn´t like it he survives.
The game kinda fooled you then. You´ll understand why if you play it until the end.
Don´t be impatient. Those are major spoilers.
The most important thing in a Visual Novel is the story, why would you search for spoilers? You will ruin the experience. Take your time and enjoy the story.
there you go.
This episode not having a controversial spanking scene doesn't mean anything. it only means that if this episode had any controversial topic aside spanking and worth censoring they'd still deem that censored.
You know what's funny? You asked the same question that Kuon asked at the end of the game.
He is just what he is. You may not accept this, like as I do not accept your position regarding certain points about the game, but not everything in the world is obliged to comply with your expectations. This rule also applies to the world of the game. Not to mention the fact that some of your nit-picking comes from a lack of understanding that may come after you finish the game.
Have played only up until fake Anju but lemme guess: It's either Woshis (that scene with the Assassins and the stage with the zombie monsters afterwards, as well as his "I'm totally innocent and just love peace and diplomacy"-demeanor makes him very very suspicious) or they manage to completely smash my expectations and it's just Maroro for some f****ed up reason lol. Nah, but it's pretty obvious that Raiko is just bait for the "plot twist". It's sorta cliché for those kinds of stories to the point of almost annoying me at this point.
btw not really a spoiler because except for fake Anju we all know this information at the end of MoD.
I have some intuition about those stories and most of the time, I seem to be spot-on, because the patterns are often rather stereotypical and innovative twists are rare. Here are my predictions; will be funny looking back on them when I've finished reading it:
Again, I suspect Woshis as the puppetmaster for now. Endboss gotta be some kind of big monster again (three times's the charm). Most likely Kuon herself. I bet that Oshtor only said something along the lines of "take my place" meaning "you the boss now" and Haku and Nekone just stupidly interpreted that as "impersonate me" (the fact that they didn't show what he really said shows me that they will pull this out of their ass later on). Kuon will probably end up in a battle against Haku where the masquerade will fall (maybe when she "kills him" for sure; that's how it usually goes). I just hope they don't wait too long because the whole situtation is really uncomfortable with everyone believing him to be dead and him getting constant guilt trips. That Vurai survived is another one that is rather cliché. I predict him to have a change of heart after almost killing Haku & Co. thanks to Entua (I really hope not, they wrote him as unlikable as possible and practically irredeamable; I just want him dead).
This has me a little bit uneasy as well but the important thing I can see for now is that they haven't touched them directly. Eruruu is only lightly alluded to as Kuon's mentor in things related to healing and the existence of Hakuowlo is just completely hidden by everyone (Oboro says he's her father but it's obviously Hakuowlo; I don't think that that guy impregnated his own sister. Plus, there was the epilogue scene in the first game). In all likelihood, both have a very important role and will play a big part in the major twist they probably try to pull off. Let's see how early I can figure out what exactly that is.
My intuition hasn't failed me in MoD but I guess the fact that the Mikado is Haku's brother was so obvious that you have had to be ignoring the flashback scenes if you could't guess that before the reveal. As I said, just some ideas how the whole thing could play out if I tried to write it as clichéd as possible. Please don't disappoint me, game.
I remember being very confused with Honoka too, at first I also thought she was also Human (as well as the Twins) since...well their animal features weren't as clear as the other characters pretty much.
I honestly really thought about saying (or just joke 'bout it) how many of them you did get right (or really close to right) but that in itself would be a spoiler.
Despite also enjoying the story a lot, I do have a lot (and I mean LOTS) of mixed feelings over quite a bit of events in the game, as far as storytelling goes.
I also didn't really like the fact that they seperated it all into character arcs. Seems forced, unnatural. I think it's better to have everyone develop step by step at the same time instead of splitting it up. The last arc kinda has the same problem as the first game that it seems to come out of nowhere and that the game's theme and feeling abruptly shifts into something entirely different. Other than that, it's a really captivating story.
Overall, I think the best thing about this story is its setup. MoD's plot has to be the best worldbuilding and establishment of major characters out of every story I have ever seen. It masterfully and organically sets up the stage (and main conflict with the false identity of Oshtor) for MoT. The ending of MoD is the most smooth build up to a sequel I've ever seen.
The game is also really good on the character side of things. At the end of it, we know the characters like our best friends. Best one I would say is without a doubt Nekone. I am kind of disappointed how bleak Kuon is in comparison even though she is supposed to be the main heroine.
I probably will end up making a post to discuss it properly since I always kinda wanted to see how other people would think about the things I think this series did wonderfully... and did awkwardly bad. For that I think I'll finish the game again tho, to make sure I don't end up missing important detail & say some BS for not remembering well.
As for Maroro, at first I never really found it too much of an asspull for him to be so blind in his quest for vengeance since in my mind the insect definitely messed up with his brain a lot, the thing is, when we see the insect's entry in the encyclopedia, it says the host MUST believe that his memories over the incident in question be real (the memories implanted by the insect per se) otherwise the insect eventually loses control over the victim, which is ...a bit awkward, because Maroro 100% believed Oshtor killed Haku, despite the OBVIOUS fact that he WASN'T there when it happened, so the memories he had could ONLY be fabricated, it does give an interesting insight on how blinded Maroro was with everything that happened, but it doesn't help much the fact that this reveal was dragged for a bit (I swear it was the first thing I thought "yo, just tell him HOW can he believe that if he wasn't there when Haku 'died'). It was still a pretty climatic and sad end for Maroro, which still hit me hard