Utawarerumono: Mask of Truth

Utawarerumono: Mask of Truth

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.vu Feb 3, 2020 @ 5:09pm
[SPOILERS] Ending interpretation
Has anyone understood how Haku is able to freely roam the world after taking over as the host for Witsuarunemitea? I have a couple of theories myself, but I feel like none of them are water-proof, so I was wondering if anyone has any theories of their own they'd like to share.

My theory is based on the Great Sealing in MoT being a sham compared to the one in the original game (with Hakuoro as the protagonist), another deception weaved by Haku and the Twins (who were directly involved with this sealing), which would maybe explain why they brought up the malformed wishes of the people again in the epilogue and Haku going around to fix those. There is a chance more of these are popping up, as the Seal was nowhere as complete as in the first game, allowing both sides of Wistuarunemitea to influence the world?
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Minneyar Feb 3, 2020 @ 5:57pm 
So, the ending is open to interpretation, but my take is:

(Whole series spoilers) Haku isn't sealed at all in the same way that Hakuowlo was. Hakuowlo had to be sealed because he couldn't control Uitsualnemetia's dark side. After Mutsumi originally sealed him, eventually the seal began to weaken, and that allowed Uitsualnemetia's dark and light sides to begin taking turns awakening. The light side used Iceman's body, and the dark side possessed whoever awakened it (Diy), but they were significantly weakend while they were split. After recombining, Hakuowlo would have been unable to stop his dark side from wrecking civilization, and so the Onkamiyaryu sealed him away again in order to prevent that from happening.

In the ending to the MoT, Haku used his akuruka to defeat Woshis, but he used its powers too much and it killed him. Uitsualnemetia's dark side had been trying to manifest through Kuon as a way to escape the seal, and due to her grief at Haku's death, it was able to take control of her. While that was going on, Haku, in Kotuahamuru (aka the Twilight Gardens), was able to use the mask he had been given by Hakuowlo in order to take his powers and assume his godhood. The important thing to note here is that Haku is still dead; he doesn't have a body and only exists spiritually. He's able to save Kuon because she wishes for him to save her, and with Uitsualnemetia's power, he's able to save her. Similarly, his wishes have a price -- after he saves Kuon, he takes the twins with him and then disappears.

After that, there's no need for Hakuowlo to be sealed any more because he's powerless. Uitsualnemetia's dark side still exists within Kuon -- see Dream Arena #14 -- but she is in control of herself and so it's effectively powerless. Haku is effectively a god now and can use his powers to grant wishes (such as visiting Kuon but taking the fan), undo the damage that Woshis did, and release humanity by turning the tatari into vegetation.
.vu Feb 4, 2020 @ 12:23am 
I haven't played the post-game but is there actual plot in it?

Also ultimately what was sealed then, if the dark side of that god still exists within Kuon? Or is the intent that it was sealed WITHIN her?
Because if that were true, that's actually an incredibly cruel ending. We would be back in the state similar to before the light and dark sides were reunited within the sealed Hakuowlo, meaning those 2 are never supposed to meet, unless of course they are able to fully control their powers, which I feel like is a stretch, considering Iceman seems to have went through untold numbers of awakenings (his own words when Haku first reaches the Twilight Gardens) and never found a way to free himself of his fate, with the only iteration where both sides were awake at the same time ultimately ending in tragedy as well.

I know I'm being pessimistic, but so much of the ending scenes in MoT were similar to the original, that I am having difficulty finding a meaningful difference for why Haku can control this god's power better than Iceman.
The only thing I could attribute it to, is that it has something to do with him being significantly different to normal humans, as he and his brother do not turn into Tatari. Something about the True Humanity Project changing their genetic make-up to the point of distinguishing them from humans.

Let's try a different angle, since this is anime.
Oshtor promises not to use his mask during the fight against Woshis, yet understanding Kuon's deliberations to tap into her own powers after understanding that the "kindred" was not him but her, he sacrificed himself anyway, because that is simply how he is: he cares more about his comrades than himself to the point of self-sacrifice.
After reaching the Twilight Gardens he is urged by both Iceman as well as the spirits of the real Oshtor and Maroro to return, as they are able to watch the events of the living from that plane in between. It's highly implied that he wouldn't have, if he wasn't able to see Kuon turn for himself, as he believes to have done enough at this point. I believe he even says that he has to go as "his girl is calling for him", further reciprocating her feelings for him.

Him disappearing after The Great Sealing performed by the Twins is by my interpretation a deception, he is once again trying to fool Kuon into believing that he is gone, however the question remains: Why?
They clearly love each other to the point where Fumirul is actually mad for the first time in the entire game after Haku's sacrifice (I wholeheartedly share her sentiments btw).

The only reason I can think of is that the Dark Side really was sealed within Kuon. Haku is thus probably trying to distance himself from her for safety as he does not wish to stir the seal. This draws a parallel to how the seal on Hakuowlo was weakened and Eruru had to bind herself to it to strengthen it. Eruru was the one who loved Hakuowlo the most and it is implied that her yearning after his sealing is what weakened the seal. Thus it makes sense that binding herself to the seal and to Hakuowlo would help stabilize it.

Haku did free Hakuowlo and Eruru from their fate though, albeit through the only way possible to him: Sacrificing himself and his own desires. However, if a sequel was able to fix the tragedy of the original, here's hoping that another sequel can fix this one.


I'm just a bit bummed, that the game ended on that note. For every hole closed left from the original, I felt like MoT cleaved new ones into my poor heart. I originally played the first game over a decade ago, yet the yearning for answers after the ending never subsided, lmao.
I guess it was the fans' fault that the seal weakened... :D

Also try reasoning with Atuy and Nosori, if they ever find Haku. Atuy herself is probably enough to cause another calamity... :D
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Minneyar Feb 4, 2020 @ 5:22am 
There aren't any major plot twists or revelations left, but like MoD's Dream Arena, which is all just joke stages, MoT's DA is actually canon, in a weird sort of way, and has a little bit more information in it (but also some joke stages). It's worth playing through (or just watching on Youtube if it's too frustrating). I don't think anything is sealed at this point; Uitsualnemetia's dark side still exists within Kuon but is powerless, and Haku has all of Uitsualnemetia's power but no dark side, so he's in full control of it.

For better or worse, something else to keep in mind is that the twins are actually very bad at sealing things. No, seriously -- if you go back and look at it, every time they tried to seal something in either MoD or MoT, they failed at it. So much for "Kamunagi of Chains"...

There's also one more useful piece of information, which is the cover to the MoT soundtrack:
https://www.amazon.com/Utawarerumono-Futarino-Hakuoro-Additional-Soundtrack/dp/B073JWRY3F (look closely at the shadow and the figure on it)

I think they'll meet again; Haku said earlier in MoT that he wanted to be able to just travel and explore the world, and now he has the chance to do that, plus finish cleaning up after humanity, but he'll find a way back.
ArtyomMMM Feb 4, 2020 @ 10:39am 
Hakuowlo had a grudge against humanity, and there was nothing he could do about this hatred. Therefore, he could not prevent the awakening of the dark side, which feeds on dark emotions, even if he wanted to.

Haku, being positive and gifted with care since the "past" life, is free from dark emotions, therefore he is able to avoid awakening the dark side. In addition, he does what he likes. Saraana & Uruuru help him by being nearby as psychological support to suppress any dark emotions in the bud, because despite the spiritual embodiment of Haku, he retains his human consciousness and needs moral support. Ironically, in this way they justify their name as Kamunagi of Chains.

Kuon remains the conductor of Witsuarunemitea (Uitsualnemetia) thanks to her blood, originating from the past wearer of the original mask. But this time, Haku is watching over her.
.vu Feb 4, 2020 @ 10:59am 
You know I own the entire soundtrack and I didn't notice that on the cover, holy...

Haku and Hakuowlo being fundamentally different in their mindset on humanity as a whole is something I haven't thought about, but is true... it definitely explains why the dark side has no grip on him as it did on other vessels.

What are your thoughts on a sequel at this point? I think I'm actually fairly happy with how the franchise ended after thinking about it more and I feel like a sequel with recurring characters would be mostly fan service than anything else...

I think the only question that remains is what Uitsualnemetia really is, as he is a central God figure with all that Power of the Origin and what not, though I'm personally not sure if exploring that direction would make much sense in terms of telling a story. If memory serves, the first encounter with Uitsualnemetia was him as a fossil while Iceman was still a normal human being.
ArtyomMMM Feb 4, 2020 @ 11:25am 
Personally, I am pleased with the ending, and I'm not really looking forward to the sequel. But if it would be an equally wonderful story with other characters from this universe, I would be happy.

As for Witsuarunemitea, no one knows what it is, I think even the creators. One thing is clear - it’s just an ancient power that anyone who needs it can take possession of, giving in return their entire being, including their undefiled soul. And that any stain on the soul gives rise to its dark embodiment.
Rachito Feb 4, 2020 @ 11:57am 
The difference between Hakuoro and Haku is, the former didn´t want the power, he couldn´t control it and, in some point he wanted use it for revenge. Haku is willing to use the power and his carefree personality will help him to control it better.
Also, i don´t know if you know but there´s a new game coming up. The protagonist use a new black mask, so i don´t know if it´s conected to Witsuarunemitea.
I think too the ending in this game is perfect, it close the three games really well, and i don´t think a new game is necessary, but i don´t mind to play it if it´s a good game.
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Minneyar Feb 4, 2020 @ 6:20pm 
I'm happy with how the series ended; there's room for them to make a sequel if they wanted, but I'm perfectly satisfied with it as it is. I feel like trying to explain exactly what Uitsualnemetia is or where it came from is unnecessary; taking away from the mystery and putting limits on it would just make the story less thought-provoking. If they do make another story set in the same world, I hope that, like Mask of Deception, it's set in a different region and has some cameos of characters we know but focuses on a new cast.

Speaking of which...

Also, i don´t know if you know but there´s a new game coming up.

Just for reference, for anybody who doesn't know, Utawarerumono: Lost Frag is a mobile gacha game that has been running for a few months now. It's actually got a pretty interesting story, although it seems like it's set in a different dimension than the main series and its place in the timeline is... flexible. It's only in Japanese right now, but there's a wiki where people have been documenting info and translations for it: https://utawarelf.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
Pay Child Suport Feb 26, 2020 @ 6:35am 
as much as I'd like to say I enjoyed this, there's one glaring flaw that I find.

How hard is it to just slip Anju back to Yamato when all the generals know that the princess is just an impostor. I'm talking of the scene where Mikazuchi shows himself in Enkamuy (go to event viewer #55). So they KNOW the real princess is there, so what's stopping them from slipping her back to the castle? Anju doesn't necessarily want revenge right?

they're trying too hard to prolong the story when it didn't needed to. and that became glaringly obvious when she finally returns to the throne, only to have to it burn down for plot reasons. oh right, we totally forgot about the tatari and stuff. and Witsuarunemetia. and Uta1 characters. and of course, Eruruu. yep, we have to burn down Yamato.

that ending where Haku just disappears is reminiscent of Uta1 ending. a total copypasta. can't say I'm surprised with that half-assed ending when they have no idea how to progress the story from that point. let alone finally putting an ending to everything.

I already had my hunch that the storyboard (is this right?) doesn't know what to do with itself when they revealed that Vurai survived. sure you can explain it with the mask having insane regen capabilities, but what I mean is, what's his purpose from the plot? well aside from just dying again?

Oh and Maroro did nothing wrong. best boy.

favorite character in battle: Ougi
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Minneyar Feb 26, 2020 @ 12:42pm 
Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:
How hard is it to just slip Anju back to Yamato when all the generals know that the princess is just an impostor. I'm talking of the scene where Mikazuchi shows himself in Enkamuy (go to event viewer #55). So they KNOW the real princess is there, so what's stopping them from slipping her back to the castle? Anju doesn't necessarily want revenge right?

And if they did that.. then what? They would have to convince everybody that their Anju is real and the impostor is a fake. Keep in mind that most citizens have never even seen Anju's face before and have no reason to doubt that the "fake" one is real; the only difference between them is that Oshtor says one is real and Raiko says the other is real. Somebody assassinated the Mikado and tried to assassinate Anju, and Oshtor and company still don't know who; whoever's responsible is obviously in league with Raiko, though, and until he's taken care of, Anju's liable to just get assassinated again.

Raiko and Woshis don't want the real Anju back. Raiko wants a puppet he can control, Mikazuchi's loyalty is to Yamato (not Anju), and Woshis wants Mito and his family to just be completely gone.

Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:
they're trying too hard to prolong the story when it didn't needed to. and that became glaringly obvious when she finally returns to the throne, only to have to it burn down for plot reasons. oh right, we totally forgot about the tatari and stuff. and Witsuarunemetia. and Uta1 characters. and of course, Eruruu. yep, we have to burn down Yamato.

I'm not sure what you're objecting to here. It was established partway through Mask of Deception that the mausoleum was built on top of an Onvitaikayan facility that was filled with Tatari, and Mito's goal the entire time was to find a way to save humanity; that never got forgotten at all. That's why he started the war with Tuskur and sent Haku to the ruins. Woshis' plan the entire time was to get Mito out of the way so that he could use humanity's technology to take what he believed was rightfully his, and his folly lead to disaster -- and humanity's hubris leading to disaster is really the core theme of the entire series. If anything I feel like the civil war arc in Mask of Truth dragged out a little too long and distracted people away from the real core of the story.

Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:
that ending where Haku just disappears is reminiscent of Uta1 ending. a total copypasta. can't say I'm surprised with that half-assed ending when they have no idea how to progress the story from that point. let alone finally putting an ending to everything.

Of course the ending to a trilogy recapitulates on the themes of the first arc. That's what narratives do. I'm not sure why you think they had no idea how to progress the story; Suga Munemitsu (the primary writer) said in an interview around the release of the 2006 remake that they were already planning a sequel. While it echoes the themes, it's hardly a "copypasta"; most significantly, in Uta1, Hakuowlo had to be sealed away to stop Uitsualnemetia's dark side from destroying civilization, but Haku is free because it doesn't have a dark side. After taking Hakuowlo's power, Hakuowlo can finally be with his family while Haku heals the world and releases humanity from their curse.

I already had my hunch that the storyboard (is this right?) doesn't know what to do with itself when they revealed that Vurai survived. sure you can explain it with the mask having insane regen capabilities, but what I mean is, what's his purpose from the plot? well aside from just dying again?

Narratively speaking, Vurai's purpose is to push Nekone's character development forward. She was severely traumatized by Oshtor's death and being forced to lie about it to everybody, and her only way to cope with it was to convince herself that Hakutor was her real brother; it's made even worse because she adored her brother but despised Haku. It had gotten bad enough that she couldn't even tell Haku and Oshtor apart any more. Being forced into the same situation again -- Vurai trying to kill "Oshtor" -- made her confront the fact that the real Oshtor was dead and even though Haku was impersonating him, she had grown to love him as much as her brother.
ArtyomMMM Feb 26, 2020 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:
How hard is it to just slip Anju back to Yamato when all the generals know that the princess is just an impostor.
Back to Yamato full of unknown enemies? Why send her to death?

Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:
we totally forgot about the tatari and stuff
From the very beginning, his brother said that he wanted to save humanity. What is the problem? You need to be more attentive to the development of the plot. There were many Chekhov rifles that you might not even notice.

Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:
we have to burn down Yamato
Why not? lol

Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:
what's his purpose from the plot? well aside from just dying again?
He was needed for the character development of the protagonist and Nekone, and Entua.
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ArtyomMMM Feb 26, 2020 @ 2:31pm 
Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:
they're trying too hard to prolong the story when it didn't needed to. and that became glaringly obvious when she finally returns to the throne, only to have to it burn down for plot reasons. oh right, we totally forgot about the tatari and stuff. and Witsuarunemetia. and Uta1 characters. and of course, Eruruu. yep, we have to burn down Yamato.

that ending where Haku just disappears is reminiscent of Uta1 ending. a total copypasta. can't say I'm surprised with that half-assed ending when they have no idea how to progress the story from that point. let alone finally putting an ending to everything.

I already had my hunch that the storyboard (is this right?) doesn't know what to do with itself when they revealed that Vurai survived. sure you can explain it with the mask having insane regen capabilities, but what I mean is, what's his purpose from the plot? well aside from just dying again?
Try to find out what symbolism is. Your problem is that all you see is the bare facts that you learned during the playthrough. And you analyze these facts alone and do not see (or do not want to see) what the writer want to show you. If something happens due to some reasons, maybe that reason is that writer wanted to show you something between the lines. To make you think about eternal maters not bound to certain plot.
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Pay Child Suport Feb 28, 2020 @ 12:54am 
Originally posted by Minneyar:

And if they did that.. then what? They would have to convince everybody that their Anju is real and the impostor is a fake. Keep in mind that most citizens have never even seen Anju's face before and have no reason to doubt that the "fake" one is real; the only difference between them is that Oshtor says one is real and Raiko says the other is real. Somebody assassinated the Mikado and tried to assassinate Anju, and Oshtor and company still don't know who; whoever's responsible is obviously in league with Raiko, though, and until he's taken care of, Anju's liable to just get assassinated again.

the citizens? they don't have to know. as long as they live in ignorant peace.

and you brought up a good point on the assassination. this begs the question: if Anju wins this "war" and reclaim the throne does that solve the assassin problem? the argument can easily be made: her going back there whether by slipping or by defeating Raiko are just as both dangerous.

Raiko and Woshis don't want the real Anju back. Raiko wants a puppet he can control, Mikazuchi's loyalty is to Yamato (not Anju), and Woshis wants Mito and his family to just be completely gone.

here is where I disagree. Mikazuchi is definitely loyal. Raiko just want to play live action Civilization. but to say these two [don't want] Anju back is ridiculous.

I'm not sure what you're objecting to here. It was established partway through Mask of Deception that the mausoleum was built on top of an Onvitaikayan facility that was filled with Tatari, and Mito's goal the entire time was to find a way to save humanity; that never got forgotten at all. That's why he started the war with Tuskur and sent Haku to the ruins. Woshis' plan the entire time was to get Mito out of the way so that he could use humanity's technology to take what he believed was rightfully his, and his folly lead to disaster -- and humanity's hubris leading to disaster is really the core theme of the entire series. If anything I feel like the civil war arc in Mask of Truth dragged out a little too long and distracted people away from the real core of the story.

you've pointed it out yourself: the civil war act was dragged too long. only for Yamato to just burn down again because the writers forgot to tackle the tatari and the more important stuff.

Of course the ending to a trilogy recapitulates on the themes of the first arc. That's what narratives do. I'm not sure why you think they had no idea how to progress the story; Suga Munemitsu (the primary writer) said in an interview around the release of the 2006 remake that they were already planning a sequel. While it echoes the themes, it's hardly a "copypasta"; most significantly, in Uta1, Hakuowlo had to be sealed away to stop Uitsualnemetia's dark side from destroying civilization, but Haku is free because it doesn't have a dark side. After taking Hakuowlo's power, Hakuowlo can finally be with his family while Haku heals the world and releases humanity from their curse.

I mean sure it is a complete story from the narrative perspective. but saying Haku is a sinless guy and thus he won't succumb to the dark side of Witsuarunemetia is a hard sell for me. if anything he is the incarnation of Sloth. and he still is at the end when he says "oh, I don't get to do anything and just sit back? sign me up!".

Narratively speaking, Vurai's purpose is to push Nekone's character development forward. She was severely traumatized by Oshtor's death and being forced to lie about it to everybody, and her only way to cope with it was to convince herself that Hakutor was her real brother; it's made even worse because she adored her brother but despised Haku. It had gotten bad enough that she couldn't even tell Haku and Oshtor apart any more. Being forced into the same situation again -- Vurai trying to kill "Oshtor" -- made her confront the fact that the real Oshtor was dead and even though Haku was impersonating him, she had grown to love him as much as her brother.

to be honest my first hunch was that Entua was Mito's assassin and thus why the writers needed Vurai. but that wasn't the case.
Newbie4life!!! May 14, 2020 @ 6:26pm 
I'd use spoiler tags but since this whole thread is LITERALLY spoilers, I'll just add a warning in the beginning.

I think Haku is roaming the world but spiritually and can only be seen sometimes (saving the girl in the village etc). The first Utawareumono tells us that the black (Witsuarunemetia) is merged with white (ICEMAN archaeologist who was killed) and that one usually roams the world while the other slumbers, except in rare instances like the white vs black god (grandma Tuskur's adventure) and the first season of Utawarumono. Hakuoro(ICEMAN) could NOT roam the world because he fused with black (Witsuarunemetia) being sealed together. Haku himself wasn't fused with the black god when sealed and the black god was sealed by himself. Maybe
Ulthury and Camyu alone could not seal it without Hakuoro's help but now the got the chains of kamunagi? Therefore as with the first Utawareumono's rule, one may roam the world. That is proven at the end where Haku tells Kuon that he was by her side the whole time (she just couldn't see him) and gives her his coat in exchange for the fan.

The only questions I have are who is the alternate personality in Kuon because in the OVA special (where it shows Kuon's childhood) it clearly shows the alternate personality being not witsuarunemetia but herself and even in the game the alter Kuon calls kuon herself as well. If you can take the dream arenas (which has serious times) as canon then altar kuon also has feelings for Haku since altar and kuon are both the same.
Which then begs the question how Witsuarunemetia spawned in Yamato when it was sealed in Tuskur, through her blood? From the calls of woshis's power and Kuon's wish? Becuase you know the black god is the real one because Camyu calls it her Father which she specifically reserves for the white&black god.


Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:

the citizens? they don't have to know. as long as they live in ignorant peace.

and you brought up a good point on the assassination. this begs the question: if Anju wins this "war" and reclaim the throne does that solve the assassin problem? the argument can easily be made: her going back there whether by slipping or by defeating Raiko are just as both dangerous.

Raiko and Woshis don't want the real Anju back. Raiko wants a puppet he can control, Mikazuchi's loyalty is to Yamato (not Anju), and Woshis wants Mito and his family to just be completely gone...

So like the real Anju comes back what happens? Raiko is just going to kill her once she steps in for being an imposter. The adage "you and what army" is whats important here. She has to march in with a show of force or else they are just going to A) declare her false and kill her or B) drug/poison her and make her a puppet again (think maroro's parasite). Remember like Tokibusa or tokikoki not all leaders CARE which on is real, just which one is going to win.

Mikazuchi is loyal to the people not Anju that is clearly stated and not a room for debate. Raiko clearly states there is no need for a mikado and Anju is exact opposite of what he wants (he has a fake Anju only for he reason of controlling the populace).

Literally from the beginning of the game (mask of deception) the writers had been tackling the tatari and "stuff". The whole reason Ukon was there was to deliver relic that was found in Kujyuri and the twins where there to seal the ruins. Then we get back to it during the Uzurusha's invasion (ruins) and of course the whole invade Tuskur thing.
Pay Child Suport May 15, 2020 @ 10:43am 
Originally posted by Newbie4life!!!:
I'd use spoiler tags but since this whole thread is LITERALLY spoilers, I'll just add a warning in the beginning.

I think Haku is roaming the world but spiritually and can only be seen sometimes (saving the girl in the village etc). The first Utawareumono tells us that the black (Witsuarunemetia) is merged with white (ICEMAN archaeologist who was killed) and that one usually roams the world while the other slumbers, except in rare instances like the white vs black god (grandma Tuskur's adventure) and the first season of Utawarumono. Hakuoro(ICEMAN) could NOT roam the world because he fused with black (Witsuarunemetia) being sealed together. Haku himself wasn't fused with the black god when sealed and the black god was sealed by himself. Maybe
Ulthury and Camyu alone could not seal it without Hakuoro's help but now the got the chains of kamunagi? Therefore as with the first Utawareumono's rule, one may roam the world. That is proven at the end where Haku tells Kuon that he was by her side the whole time (she just couldn't see him) and gives her his coat in exchange for the fan.

The only questions I have are who is the alternate personality in Kuon because in the OVA special (where it shows Kuon's childhood) it clearly shows the alternate personality being not witsuarunemetia but herself and even in the game the alter Kuon calls kuon herself as well. If you can take the dream arenas (which has serious times) as canon then altar kuon also has feelings for Haku since altar and kuon are both the same.
Which then begs the question how Witsuarunemetia spawned in Yamato when it was sealed in Tuskur, through her blood? From the calls of woshis's power and Kuon's wish? Becuase you know the black god is the real one because Camyu calls it her Father which she specifically reserves for the white&black god.


Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:

the citizens? they don't have to know. as long as they live in ignorant peace.

and you brought up a good point on the assassination. this begs the question: if Anju wins this "war" and reclaim the throne does that solve the assassin problem? the argument can easily be made: her going back there whether by slipping or by defeating Raiko are just as both dangerous.

Raiko and Woshis don't want the real Anju back. Raiko wants a puppet he can control, Mikazuchi's loyalty is to Yamato (not Anju), and Woshis wants Mito and his family to just be completely gone...

So like the real Anju comes back what happens? Raiko is just going to kill her once she steps in for being an imposter. The adage "you and what army" is whats important here. She has to march in with a show of force or else they are just going to A) declare her false and kill her or B) drug/poison her and make her a puppet again (think maroro's parasite). Remember like Tokibusa or tokikoki not all leaders CARE which on is real, just which one is going to win.

Mikazuchi is loyal to the people not Anju that is clearly stated and not a room for debate. Raiko clearly states there is no need for a mikado and Anju is exact opposite of what he wants (he has a fake Anju only for he reason of controlling the populace).

Literally from the beginning of the game (mask of deception) the writers had been tackling the tatari and "stuff". The whole reason Ukon was there was to deliver relic that was found in Kujyuri and the twins where there to seal the ruins. Then we get back to it during the Uzurusha's invasion (ruins) and of course the whole invade Tuskur thing.

you're forgetting a much bigger problem. not that I blame you since not even the writers know who poisoned Mikado and Anju's drinks. oopsies, they completely forgot to add that in. which just tells me the atrocious writing this VN had. again, they don't even know what to do with this title.

here's another lazy writing: amaterasu key. it got """"conveniently"""" destroyed after single use.
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