Isn't this the game where they scammed people?

[Waltzing]

Why wasn't this game shutdown? When they were advertising products with the special editions and people were got cheap knock offs? Who could honestly even play a game with a company like that?

I don't think this game deserved to even break 1000 sales if a company is going to screw you like that.

[globefish23]

Originally posted by Waltzing:

Why wasn't this game shutdown? When they were advertising products with the special editions and people were got cheap knock offs? Who could honestly even play a game with a company like that?

I don't think this game deserved to even break 1000 sales if a company is going to screw you like that.

The carrying bag of one of the merchandise items in the first run wasn't made of sturdy canvas, but thin nylon cloth because of alleged production issues from the manufacturer.
Buyers got the proper replacements several months later.
https://www.eurogamer.net/7-months-later-bethesda-has-finally-delivered-the-fallout-76-canvas-bags

No one got scammed.

[Wurm65]

No clown for you OP.

[AlexSledge]

I, as a buyer, can say I did get a proper canvas bag a few months later - AFTER MUCH OF THE UNIVERSE YELLED AT THEIR EVIL MANAGEMENT FOR TRYING TO SCREW US.

The PA helmet is epic though. Electronics in it are crap, but it's a great platform to begin building your own cosplay helmet.

[Shacck]

Originally posted by globefish23:

Originally posted by Waltzing:

Why wasn't this game shutdown? When they were advertising products with the special editions and people were got cheap knock offs? Who could honestly even play a game with a company like that?

I don't think this game deserved to even break 1000 sales if a company is going to screw you like that.

The carrying bag of one of the merchandise items in the first run wasn't made of sturdy canvas, but thin nylon cloth because of alleged production issues from the manufacturer.
Buyers got the proper replacements several months later.
https://www.eurogamer.net/7-months-later-bethesda-has-finally-delivered-the-fallout-76-canvas-bags

No one got scammed.

If you buy a product and you receive a cheap knockoff, then complain and then receive the actual product months later that's... not a scam because you still got your product... eventually.
Not saying this was a straight forward scam but that's actually one of the ways scams opperate.

[Waltzing]

So they did try to scam and only reverted back to the original product when people complained. I don't know how people say they didn't.

[RACHMANOVSKI]

System Shock Remake, the game nobody called Scam today was a Scam because they delay the game, thankfully it's just 7 years late.

[Xafron Chi]

Originally posted by globefish23:

Originally posted by Waltzing:

Why wasn't this game shutdown? When they were advertising products with the special editions and people were got cheap knock offs? Who could honestly even play a game with a company like that?

I don't think this game deserved to even break 1000 sales if a company is going to screw you like that.

The carrying bag of one of the merchandise items in the first run wasn't made of sturdy canvas, but thin nylon cloth because of alleged production issues from the manufacturer.
Buyers got the proper replacements several months later.
https://www.eurogamer.net/7-months-later-bethesda-has-finally-delivered-the-fallout-76-canvas-bags

No one got scammed.

Let's not sugar coat what Bethesda did here. Reviewers and influencers got the proper canvas bag. Meanwhile, despite advertising a canvas bag, people who had to pay were sent a cheap nylon bag. That is called false advertising.

And customer service basically attempted to wash their hands of everything. Like damn guys that sucks, but canvas is hard to come by, ya know? Then they tried getting everyone to shut up about it by offering them 500 atoms (that's $5 of in game money).

The proper canvas bags were only sent out due to severe backlash.

The power armor helmet was also recalled due to mold.

And the game was a disaster. That is an objective fact.

Now I am guessing OP is here to troll in the hopes of some Steam points, and I am enjoying Fallout 76 a lot (I bought it for $7 a few weeks ago and they've consistently worked on it for years to improve it significantly, credit where credit is due), but I am not going to let someone gloss over Bethesda's biggest middle finger ever to their own fanbase lmao.

At best I'd call it an attempted scam. They caved, because the negative response was bigger than any of them ever anticipated.

[william_es]

This game was worth playing, for what I paid for it. I remember it being about 13 dollars. I've spent more money on lunch in a single day.

Pretty lazy troll post.

[Sel Und Irae]

The game for first year was rough, It's absolutely redeemed itself since. I wouldn't have bought it on steam if it hadn't.

That being said, Probably won't buy any future Bethesda Products after what they did in Starfield.

[Xafron Chi]

Originally posted by Sel Und Irae:

The game for first year was rough, It's absolutely redeemed itself since. I wouldn't have bought it on steam if it hadn't.

That being said, Probably won't buy any future Bethesda Products after what they did in Starfield.

76 is leagues better than what it was. I don't know if I would say it is a great Fallout RPG as I think that's a bit too high of praise, but it is a great Fallout amusement park. That's how I feel when I'm in there at least.

Starfield wasn't what I would call a terrible game. But it wasn't what I'd call a great one either. Pretty concerned about ES6 at this point.

[Sel Und Irae]

Originally posted by Xafron Chi:

Originally posted by Sel Und Irae:

The game for first year was rough, It's absolutely redeemed itself since. I wouldn't have bought it on steam if it hadn't.

That being said, Probably won't buy any future Bethesda Products after what they did in Starfield.

76 is leagues better than what it was. I don't know if I would say it is a great Fallout RPG as I think that's a bit too high of praise, but it is a great Fallout amusement park. That's how I feel when I'm in there at least.

Starfield wasn't what I would call a terrible game. But it wasn't what I'd call a great one either. Pretty concerned about ES6 at this point.

I just wish 76 was a lot harder, At start the difficulty is fine (Ammo Scarcity) but when you get to stage where you just basically float around everywhere in your power armor with no reprecussion and low cooldown the game trivializes itself.

The economy needs to be a lot more scarce, Stop handing out Fusion Cores like candy and increase recharge time drasticly.

Enemies like Ferals do no damage, Most Robots are jokes & Mirelurks are weak af.

76 Is fun to run around observing the Wackiness that is the Wasteland but that's bout it, The Endgame ain't hard people have hyper grinded the game to the point where every encounter is done within 30s with other players.

Anyways, Yeah i'm not hopeful for ES6 or Fallout 5. How they treated people that responded negatively to Starfield was enough of a red flag ontop of the poor delivery that was Starfield.

Bethesda is 100% in Damage control mode right now, That might transfer over to the games if lucky but i'm highly doubting it considering the track record here.

[Xafron Chi]

Originally posted by Sel Und Irae:

Originally posted by Xafron Chi:

76 is leagues better than what it was. I don't know if I would say it is a great Fallout RPG as I think that's a bit too high of praise, but it is a great Fallout amusement park. That's how I feel when I'm in there at least.

Starfield wasn't what I would call a terrible game. But it wasn't what I'd call a great one either. Pretty concerned about ES6 at this point.

I just wish 76 was a lot harder, At start the difficulty is fine (Ammo Scarcity) but when you get to stage where you just basically float around everywhere in your power armor with no reprecussion and low cooldown the game trivializes itself.

The economy needs to be a lot more scarce, Stop handing out Fusion Cores like candy and increase recharge time drasticly.

Enemies like Ferals do no damage, Most Robots are jokes & Mirelurks are weak af.

76 Is fun to run around observing the Wackiness that is the Wasteland but that's bout it, The Endgame ain't hard people have hyper grinded the game to the point where every encounter is done within 30s with other players.

Anyways, Yeah i'm not hopefuly for ES6 or Fallout 5. How they treated people that responded negatively to Starfield was enough of a red flag ontop of the poor delivery that was Starfield.

Bethesda is 100% in Damage control mode right now, That might transfer over to the games if lucky but i'm highly doubting it considering the track record here.

Your second to last paragraph. Same. They even went as far as to have their people respond to negative Steam reviews. And their responses amounted to "Astronauts weren't bored on the moon." The fact they can't even wrap their brains around any kind of critique of their games is astonishing. They apparently think they are untouchable.

[EJR]

Originally posted by Sel Und Irae:

I just wish 76 was a lot harder, At start the difficulty is fine (Ammo Scarcity) but when you get to stage where you just basically float around everywhere in your power armor with no reprecussion and low cooldown the game trivializes itself.

The economy needs to be a lot more scarce, Stop handing out Fusion Cores like candy and increase recharge time drasticly.

Enemies like Ferals do no damage, Most Robots are jokes & Mirelurks are weak af.

76 Is fun to run around observing the Wackiness that is the Wasteland but that's bout it, The Endgame ain't hard people have hyper grinded the game to the point where every encounter is done within 30s with other players.

Anyways, Yeah i'm not hopeful for ES6 or Fallout 5. How they treated people that responded negatively to Starfield was enough of a red flag ontop of the poor delivery that was Starfield.

Bethesda is 100% in Damage control mode right now, That might transfer over to the games if lucky but i'm highly doubting it considering the track record here.

Fallout 76 used to be a lot more challenging at launch, being more of a Survival game with Fallout elements. I remember required to craft my own equipment and ammo all the way to level 40 because the game didn't hand them out like a goodie bag at a kid's birthday. This all changed because people thought it was too hard.

Agreed on the last paragraph, Fallout 5 isn't looking desirable to me after Starfield.

[PotatoBasket]

Originally posted by Waltzing:

Why wasn't this game shutdown? When they were advertising products with the special editions and people were got cheap knock offs? Who could honestly even play a game with a company like that?

So at the time 76 was developed Zenimax was in the process of selling out to Microsoft.

Much of the launch confusion surrounding marketing to completely different clientele resulting tin the game not knowing it's own identity, and even mechanic confusion in game can be attributed to Marketing.

MS = money lust; the more money Zenimax made via Bethesda the more attractive that transaction.

The majority of those associated with 76 during that time are not longer with the company, including long time and new employees, community managers, actors, core team members, etc.

There are more big dev studios than I can shake a stick at that lie to or scam their customers. They're "big" because they're usually owned by some of the same corporations/dev empires. If you look, just a google or two, you can find some pretty disgusting dirt on most of the CEOs and "big names" (things that will get me immediately banned for posting)

[KillerFrost11692]

Just another T post with a pvt profile so you should already know what's going on here. Skip the post and move on to the next.