new fallout game when?

[fredrik513]

does anyone know when we will get a new fallout game?

[ULTRA]

Originally posted by Phantom:

2024 - TES is on the books to be released

Uh, could I see those books? My books are saying we're like 4 or more years out from the release of TES 6, and probably a decade or more from the release of another main line Fallout game.

Originally posted by Deklend:

Originally posted by JBrown247:

Chris Avellone is the most overrated name in gaming.

Must be why The Outer Worlds was so much better than New Vegas then, eh?

Edit: almost forgot this is the internet, so yeah, that's very obvious sarcasm.

Quite amusing considering New Vegas is one of the most overrated games that he worked on; I love seeing people try to cope when I tell them that Fallout 3 had better reviews. But yes the Outer Worlds writing was horrendous.

[PotatoBasket]

Originally posted by ULTRA:

Originally posted by Phantom:

2024 - TES is on the books to be released

Uh, could I see those books? My books are saying we're like 4 or more years out from the release of TES 6, and probably a decade or more from the release of another main line Fallout game.

You can always check up with Kotaku. They've been blacklisted from Bethesda since 2013 but never officially communicated as such. Their scorn is for mining and journalinginging that kinda stuff before they announced it... I sense seduction - monetary, or the naughty business - and some shady stuff going on, but that's clearly my overactive imagination - so much anger at kotaku... why?! They do have a clear bias in their writing though.

Also... Fallout 3 was excellent. Made the Fallout series viable for me. Don't get me wrong, I've played through FO2 a number of times, and touched tactics the same. Fo1 I can not replay. The games did improve from that jump to FO3. The wasteland was still a wasteland. What I'm hoping will come of 76->fo5 is team members capable of combining all lore into a viable story - that's it. There are a million ideas of things that could be done with the title so far as making it cover everyone's wants, but that's a game vestibule leading to multiple games not one title. Anyway I digress. Good day.

[The Fattest Blunt]

wow this was fun to read. also reviews don't make a good game, just like votes don't make a good president :^)

[Deklend]

Originally posted by PotatoBasket:

Originally posted by Deklend:

Though if the Fallout Amazon show does really well, Microsoft may put pressure on BGS to ease up on entries from other developers, and it is a possibility we could see something like New Vegas/76/Tactics releasing sooner rather than later. There are a lot of probabilities to take into consideration so it's a hard question to answer.

The opposite is true. If the show does poorly it may be the end of big name Fallout titles; I doubt the franchise will die so long as there's money in it - unless of course MS decides we have arrived at a point of social tension where the subject material of FO is no longer sellable (as Moomaster mentioned). Currently the doomsday clock still sits at 90 seconds to midnight with the constant threat of the Ukrainian war escalating to world- or nuclear war being that at least one side is led by someone entirely unhinged. If nukes start dropping you can bet it's off the list, even for mobile games. The reality of melting from radiation is far too gruesome to find entertainment in once you have witnessed it.

Originally posted by Deklend:

false accusations and spreading misinformation based on political bias are very serious things

Please don't bring your personal political agenda into it; as a centrist, this activity disgusts me from either extremist end that are the general scope of political arguments on Steam forums. Not only are the arguments redundant they are almost always in some form hypocritical. I will remind you just once that personal experience has nothing to do with politics, and that slander/defamation/misinformation goes both ways as well - both for those "blowing a whistle" to whatever degree falsely in whatever form and those who choose to actively ignore and suppress accurate accounts.

If that happens then it isn't just Fallout that'll be in that situation. And I very clearly didn't bring my own "political agenda" into it. All I stated was that Avellone was exonerated, which he was. As you pointed out he was the one who received the settlement. JBrown made those comments and false accusations while bringing politics into the equation. Calling it what it was isn't "blowing a whistle".

[PotatoBasket]

My misunderstanding then
I am trying to be less constantly on the defensive. My issue.

[Deklend]

Originally posted by PotatoBasket:

My misunderstanding then :temhug:
I am trying to be less constantly on the defensive. My issue.

No worries, I understand how that goes. It DOES become exhausting.

[Mooman]

Originally posted by PotatoBasket:

You can always check up with Kotaku. They've been blacklisted from Bethesda since 2013 but never officially communicated as such.

This point is interesting. Since SFs release I've been doing a lot of research into Bethesda and it has made me unhappy.

Kotaku isn't the only outlet that has been blacklisted. Microsoft played 'funny buggers' with the SF review process too.

When the UK regulators tried to block the Activision/Microsoft merger Bobby Kotick said that the UK would become "death valley". Microsoft so afraid of backlash from UK outlets delayed giving out review codes.

It is suspected this was to ensure their (potential) low scores didn't lower the metacritic score. This is relevant in historic context of denying Obsidian bonuses from New Vegas based on metacritic scores.

But it goes further as outlined in another Kotaku article. One of the main sources of web traffic to websites is from writing guides, important for add revenue. Having to wait till the official release dates delays their abilities to compile the guides. They are beaten to press by other outlets and lose that traffic.

Bethesda have been scum for a long time and now they are in bed with Xbox that has been even more apparent in the failings of SF. As FO76 players we should care as the resignations continue caused by their ♥♥♥♥♥♥ practices.

[PotatoBasket]

Yep, that was Pete Hines deal, or so it seems from what I've been reading; he made the announcements (dunno if he made the call but he was in charge) to not permit pre-order copies of games to critics, and a bunch of other stuff. I hate marketing and I hate theirs strongly, but I don't know if dude peacing out is actually a good thing; a replacement might be far, far worse.

MS has a litany of bad business practices on their record; hell, Steam EXISTS because of them - the two founders(Heroes) were MS employees who felt the workers should be the ones making profit instead of shady corporate overlords . Things do change, and Valve hasn't made me thrilled by any means when it comes to keeping a clean house; hopefully that's improving, but either way Valve not selling out to MS (which MS would very much like) is definitely keeping both in check. Beyond that, to Zeni or Beths or Steam, poopoo just rolls down hill; can't tell me a subsidiary is evil without the main body being a direct cause of it.