Why does the ANTI-Cheat ban wemod?

[Daddydem1]

Wemod is for cheating and modding single player games and doesn't work with multiplayer games and with how the devs seemingly allow modding even though I don't mod personally so I'm unsure, why does the game close when I have software unrelated to this game?

[AtmaDarkwolf]

because it wouldn't take much effort to use a program like that(cheat engine and other similar script injectors) to change the way the game acts and do cheating(even in multiplayer games)

And when u run steam and multiplayer games, it will do what it can to protect other players.

It is all fine and dandy if you wanna rub one out in the privacy of your own home, or with other consenting adults, but if you whip it out and fap n'slap it in a crowded mall, not many people will be happy with you.

Cheating is the same way. Perfectly fine when single player games, or with other players in local coop, but not in multiplayer games.

[Daddydem1]

Originally posted by AtmaDarkwolf:

because it wouldn't take much effort to use a program like that(cheat engine and other similar script injectors) to change the way the game acts and do cheating(even in multiplayer games)

And when u run steam and multiplayer games, it will do what it can to protect other players.

It is all fine and dandy if you wanna rub one out in the privacy of your own home, or with other consenting adults, but if you whip it out and fap n'slap it in a crowded mall, not many people will be happy with you.

Cheating is the same way. Perfectly fine when single player games, or with other players in local coop, but not in multiplayer games.

I'll assume you understand coding and that you're correct inturn here.

[󠀡󠀡MɨxɇđǤȺmɨnǥ]

simply put your trying to cheat in a online game, witch is a scum thing to do. so yes ofc Anti-Cheat will prevent you from cheating in this online game. go play a offline singleplayer game and cheat there and leave online game to legit players.

[Daddydem1]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡MɨxɇđǤȺmɨnǥ:

simply put your trying to cheat in a online game, witch is a scum thing to do. so yes ofc Anti-Cheat will prevent you from cheating in this online game. go play a offline singleplayer game and cheat there and leave online game to legit players.

I have we mod downloaded, I didn't even have it open but the game still detects it, since I use it to skip the grind in single player games, but I've never even had it open while playing that game, so can you not accuse me of things it's pretty clear I've not done, and act like and adult instead as throwing a fit at me like a toddler won't change my mind or prove you right if you want to be right.

[Obi-Juan]

Originally posted by Daddy Demi:

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡MɨxɇđǤȺmɨnǥ:

simply put your trying to cheat in a online game, witch is a scum thing to do. so yes ofc Anti-Cheat will prevent you from cheating in this online game. go play a offline singleplayer game and cheat there and leave online game to legit players.

I have we mod downloaded, I didn't even have it open but the game still detects it, since I use it to skip the grind in single player games, but I've never even had it open while playing that game, so can you not accuse me of things it's pretty clear I've not done, and act like and adult instead as throwing a fit at me like a toddler won't change my mind or prove you right if you want to be right.

Just to be perfectly clear, there is absolutely no way for this partilcular anti-cheat to detect a program that is not currently running/trying to attach to F76 exe.
So you most likely had previously launched WeMod and had it minimized (it doesn't appear on taskbar but on hidden icons), it can also launch on Windows boot as minimised.

And to answer to this which is kinda wrong :

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡MɨxɇđǤȺmɨnǥ:

simply put your trying to cheat in a online game, witch is a scum thing to do. so yes ofc Anti-Cheat will prevent you from cheating in this online game. go play a offline singleplayer game and cheat there and leave online game to legit players.

WeMod has a strict policy and doesn't support cheating in online games and even has some built-in restriction anyway. In addition to that F76 now has most of the most important values server-sided to protect against 90% of script kiddies, sending modified data to a server is possible but a lot more complex and most cheater don't have the knowledge to do so.
Short answer OP probably didn't realise WeMod was running in the background...

[Vinnolo]

because the whole point of anti cheat software is to detect cheating software and possible code injection, we mod always gets picked up by anti cheats, you had it running in the background without realizing it and got picked off

[insert food here]

Is it telling you Wemod specifically is the problem or are you guessing because you have it installed?

I use cheat engine to test mods i have made tweaks to in a couple of single player games. I NEVER have it running when i am playing any MP online games. Never had a single issue with Fallout 76 or any other game. You must have had it running in the background for the games anti cheat to detect it

[DocBravo]

Cheating ruins 76.
It's the ONLY multiplayer game I play and I go it solo.
I join events but solo.
I've learned how to reduce the grind as best I can. I don't have FOMO.

WeMod is great for those of us who prefer and play mostly solo games.
Some even have an offline mode where you can use cheats but don't get curious.
Some companies will permaban when caught.

[BizarreMan]

You may not be cheating. But other people who have the same tool may use it to cheat. It’s easier for Bethesda to just block the game from running when the application is active than it is to determine is this or that particular user cheating.

Stop it before the cheat happens.

[Mooman]

Originally posted by FoxyRaven-TV:

Its the new EULA, only mods made directly and approved by ZeniMax made with ZeniMax own mod tools are allowed in their games, it says that in the new popup EULA aswell.

Meaning they are starting to ban every other mod for their online games.

That's not new in the EULA. The only new parts relate to arbitration and complainants having to pay up front before reimbursement.

Apparently it's a thing in the USA (arbitration isn't used worldwide) to enact arbitration to have the company pay up front (the old wording) in order to financially harm the company without really having a grievance.

The new way of having the complainant pay first is to discourage arbitration altogether.

[Aeon]

WeMod is an AIO trainer intended for single player titles, it isn't an online cheat tool, and wouldn't offer anything for FO76.

In general, even for the games it does offer features for (with online modes, like GTA5, RDR2, Ark, etc.), you'd actually have to attempt to use it in an online scenario for it to be flagged.

FO76 is finicky in general, it'll even CTD if process explorer running. Start WeMod and then close it via Task Manager, then check to see if FO76 launches.

[TwinChops]

Originally posted by Daddy Demi:

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡MɨxɇđǤȺmɨnǥ:

simply put your trying to cheat in a online game, witch is a scum thing to do. so yes ofc Anti-Cheat will prevent you from cheating in this online game. go play a offline singleplayer game and cheat there and leave online game to legit players.

I have we mod downloaded, I didn't even have it open but the game still detects it, since I use it to skip the grind in single player games,

Thats 110% Bullsh!t. I have it too, and 76 never even cared about it beeing just there, only time it said "Nope you cant play with it Open!" was when i had it open and simply forgot to close it.

[BetterDeals]

vortexmods for the W

[beagle]

Sounds like the anti-cheat is working.

[AtmaDarkwolf]

since it is highly illegal (at least currently lol) in most every non third world country to scan your system for INSTALLED programs, but is fully 100% allowed to scan for what is RUNNING, u have to have it active for it to popup in an anticheat scan.

Though it is very likely that such program runs quietly in your task tray (I never used wemod, but I DO Know it uses much of the same coding cheat engine does, and cheat engine will, if not set properly, to 'close to tray' which is NOT closed, it is simply minimized to your tray to use less resources (and to hide, shifty like..) - I figure wemod prob does the same, and very likely considering the nature, it runs at startup so u may not even REALIZE its running if u have no concept of 'checking task manager' and setting specific programs properly (in the settings of said program) to NOT run at startup/close out not minimize/etc) - I suggest you check your task manager for running processes(not just running programs, but the PROCESSES below that) for wemod, or whatever it tries to 'stealth' itself as (using a diff name)

But I for one would just uninstall that honestly... but again just it being installed would NOT trigger anticheat. It has to be running for it to trigger any anticheat. (Both legally and logically considering that to 'scan' an entire computer can take a LONG time, be similar length of time that some anti-virus scans would take.)