Magical railway spikes

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I crafted a railway rifle and had it in my inventory for maybe 10 minutes and somehow 551 railways spike appeared out of nowhere (it's possible I'd had 6 or so). Later they grew to 584.
Then yesterday I dumped 250 of them because I'm not currently using them and now I have 584 again...

I do remember when I last played that I suddenly got encumbered while walking somewhere because the few spikes I had on me had multiplied to 666 for no apparent reason.

Really weird thing. And, of course, it doesn't happen on the characters I have who use auto-railway rifles...

[Sgt.HomeSkillet]

Dont eat brownies that are baked by other people.

[PotatoBasket]

Are you group looting?
Mods, perhaps?
I had my own ammo increase by about 2x yesterday but on my main I only use arrows and sometimes 10mm (yes, seriously, I drop anything else I get for others at events or the station boxes) and thought it rather odd since I keep special attention to how much weight I have in that regard. I thought maybe a group loot at the end of an event added late, as last night I noticed many of the Event Complete procs were going off several minutes after completion. Would be interesting if that's a new bug though. Specifically affected my arrows.

**I hadn't seen a lot of the Satan obsessed exploiter group since NW, and the "666" thing makes me immediately think of them, so it might do to validate, though I don't recall them being particularly malicious so much as justifiably petty.

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Originally posted by PotatoBasket:

Are you group looting?
Mods, perhaps?
I had my own ammo increase by about 2x yesterday but on my main I only use arrows and sometimes 10mm (yes, seriously, I drop anything else I get for others at events or the station boxes) and thought it rather odd since I keep special attention to how much weight I have in that regard. I thought maybe a group loot at the end of an event added late, as last night I noticed many of the Event Complete procs were going off several minutes after completion. Would be interesting if that's a new bug though. Specifically affected my arrows.

I haven't noticed, but are arrows one of those things other people can find on things you kill, similarly to rail spikes? Might be some relation there.

I knew I had 6 or so spikes when I crafted the railway rifle and I'm pretty certain I didn't do any events between then and when I had 551 (it'd have to be quite an event to find that many too).
Right now weight is, weirdly, rarely a problem, so I haven't really kept an eye on my ammo as much as I usually do and I'm not sure exactly when 6 turned into 551.

I haven't fired a single shot with a railway rifle on this character either so far. I haven't really done anything with railway rifles or spikes at all, except for crafting that one (and making it legendary, which, of course, turned out to be a Bloodied explosive that I can't really use yet).

No mods, if you mean for the game. I don't dare to use any. But also no weapon mods or perks that should be able to cause this sort of thing.

So far it seems stable at 584 today...

Originally posted by PotatoBasket:

**I hadn't seen a lot of the Satan obsessed exploiter group since NW, and the "666" thing makes me immediately think of them, so it might do to validate, though I don't recall them being particularly malicious so much as justifiably petty.

Haven't heard of those, but that incident happened over a year ago. It was a peculiar number, though (which is the reason I still remember it).

[PotatoBasket]

most likely a random reward from an event, or a group loot glitch

[Zinx]

Originally posted by PotatoBasket:

Are you group looting?
Mods, perhaps?
I had my own ammo increase by about 2x yesterday but on my main I only use arrows and sometimes 10mm (yes, seriously, I drop anything else I get for others at events or the station boxes) and thought it rather odd since I keep special attention to how much weight I have in that regard. I thought maybe a group loot at the end of an event added late, as last night I noticed many of the Event Complete procs were going off several minutes after completion. Would be interesting if that's a new bug though. Specifically affected my arrows.

**I hadn't seen a lot of the Satan obsessed exploiter group since NW, and the "666" thing makes me immediately think of them, so it might do to validate, though I don't recall them being particularly malicious so much as justifiably petty.

Actually you hit it on spot, could be a another player messing around.

Originally posted by Similar:

Originally posted by PotatoBasket:

Are you group looting?
Mods, perhaps?
I had my own ammo increase by about 2x yesterday but on my main I only use arrows and sometimes 10mm (yes, seriously, I drop anything else I get for others at events or the station boxes) and thought it rather odd since I keep special attention to how much weight I have in that regard. I thought maybe a group loot at the end of an event added late, as last night I noticed many of the Event Complete procs were going off several minutes after completion. Would be interesting if that's a new bug though. Specifically affected my arrows.

I haven't noticed, but are arrows one of those things other people can find on things you kill, similarly to rail spikes? Might be some relation there.

I knew I had 6 or so spikes when I crafted the railway rifle and I'm pretty certain I didn't do any events between then and when I had 551 (it'd have to be quite an event to find that many too).
Right now weight is, weirdly, rarely a problem, so I haven't really kept an eye on my ammo as much as I usually do and I'm not sure exactly when 6 turned into 551.

I haven't fired a single shot with a railway rifle on this character either so far. I haven't really done anything with railway rifles or spikes at all, except for crafting that one (and making it legendary, which, of course, turned out to be a Bloodied explosive that I can't really use yet).

No mods, if you mean for the game. I don't dare to use any. But also no weapon mods or perks that should be able to cause this sort of thing.

So far it seems stable at 584 today...

Originally posted by PotatoBasket:

**I hadn't seen a lot of the Satan obsessed exploiter group since NW, and the "666" thing makes me immediately think of them, so it might do to validate, though I don't recall them being particularly malicious so much as justifiably petty.

Haven't heard of those, but that incident happened over a year ago. It was a peculiar number, though (which is the reason I still remember it).

If something like that happens leave group it's the best some people hack simple, I don't joke here!

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hm. And again. From 68 spikes to 751 to 1390 in one day. Just magically multiplying.
Haven't been in a team since over a year ago, so it can't be that. Done very few events today and nobody used railway rifles in those (not that you'd pick that many up anyway).

I did have to close the game with task manager once when the favorite wheel got stuck and blocked the whole screen, so maybe something went wonky then, but that was only once and they've multiplied twice.

Shame it doesn't happen with .45 or .50...

[slippingsnake]

Originally posted by Similar:

I crafted a railway rifle and had it in my inventory for maybe 10 minutes and somehow 551 railways spike appeared out of nowhere...

seriously...

Let's have a scientific approach and see what possible sources can give you Ammunition:

-crafting guns gives you ammo for 1 magazin, added to your inventory.
-rewards for missions and events
-looting from containers and death enemies (area looting)
-looting dropped items from other players
...


To bring it to the point: how many Railwy Rifles and Fixers did you craft?

[ender_wiggins]

I got a similar effekt happend to me some time ago ,i think there are"invicible" railwayrifel ammo in your inventory. They give you weight but you can see them. I think it happens sometimes if you crash your game. if im remember right the best way to get your real ammocount ,drop all your Railway ammo and pick it up again.

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Originally posted by slippingsnake:

Originally posted by Similar:

I crafted a railway rifle and had it in my inventory for maybe 10 minutes and somehow 551 railways spike appeared out of nowhere...

seriously...

Let's have a scientific approach and see what possible sources can give you Ammunition:

-crafting guns gives you ammo for 1 magazin, added to your inventory.
-rewards for missions and events
-looting from containers and death enemies (area looting)
-looting dropped items from other players
...


To bring it to the point: how many Railwy Rifles and Fixers did you craft?

Yesterday I crafted maybe 10 railway rifles, which would only be 100 spikes. With the incident in the original post I only crafted one.
No Fixers, or any other weapons.

I'd done maybe three events yesterday at that point, but you don't get several hundreds as rewards, and when you actually use the railway rifle, which I hadn't, you don't get very many pickups either. And even fewer when another player uses it, of course.
Nothing from dead players either (never killed one and I don't pick stuff up from someone who gets killed by mobs).
And no OPS or Expeditions.

Not exactly sure when it went from 751 to 1390. At some point I just noticed I was way heavier than I should have been.

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Originally posted by ender_wiggins:

I got a similar effekt happend to me some time ago ,i think there are"invicible" railwayrifel ammo in your inventory. They give you weight but you can see them. I think it happens sometimes if you crash your game. if im remember right the best way to get your real ammocount ,drop all your Railway ammo and pick it up again.

yeah, I have a feeling it has something to do with stacks in some way. With some things, like railway spikes, the game seems rather relaxed about the actual number you have. And maybe a wonky server (though, the servers I was on yesterday seemed weirdly well behaved) or having to force quit the game like I had to, might cause some odd things to happen.
I'll try dumping them in a container and picking them up again, though it probably won't do much now that I've actually been using a railway rifle. Maybe if I'd done it after force-quitting the game.

[slippingsnake]

sounds like a glitch, though if this happens often we would hear more about that.

picking up ammo by the hundreds happens during/ after rad rumble, daiily Ops, Expeditions and maybe someother events...

Could it be that the ammo already was in your inventory, you picked up something else and that pushed you over the limit?

Like "Cop a Squatter" will give you rewards when another plyer kills the squatters inepenent where you at.

Don't get me wrong, but with all these Cultists, Hippies and Drug Users in this forum I'm used to "visionary" reports like fighting Space Aliens and so on...

[jcv5000]

Don't forget ennemies you loot drop railway spikes 20 at a times! It is the easiest ammos to get if you use railway gun. What kind of ammos is railways spikes, to lower their weight? Just drop all your spikes in 1 shot, and exit the game and steam, to see if that will repair the problem! Or, if they will still multiply when you get some! I use railwat gun a lot, and never had that multiplier problems!

[Bored Peon]

If you get shot by a railway spike they can be added to your inventory. The same way that when you shoot a mob with a railway rifle it can add a spike.

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Originally posted by slippingsnake:

sounds like a glitch, though if this happens often we would hear more about that.

It's not a new thing for me. When I played a year ago it also happened and I posted about it back then too, but apparently more people had it happen then than now (at least it was familiar to some). Which is also weird.

Originally posted by slippingsnake:

picking up ammo by the hundreds happens during/ after rad rumble, daiily Ops, Expeditions and maybe someother events...

I've never come away from an event, or anything else, with more ammo than I went in with, though. Not even close.

[slippingsnake]

Originally posted by Similar:

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I've never come away from an event, or anything else, with more ammo than I went in with, though. Not even close.

it depends on the weapon, if you use grenades and being in team helps :)
Daily OPS is frequently recommanded for farming costly Ammo, but this wasn't the question...

I don't use rhe Choo-Choo Gun (should give it another try), if I randomly find spikes their number is consistent.

So the game mixes up ammo numbers for Railway-Rifle Users and adss ammo? sounds more like a feature then a bug.

btw, at the Ammo converter 300 Spikes are worth 1000 points.
(for comprison: 25,000 points get you 3,000 fusion cells)