Why should i use anything but EXCAVATOR PA?

[Dean-G]

sorry for my grammar in advance...

I want to start by saying why after so many years people still compare PA based on resistance numbers while they are completely pointless in actual use case? why almost nobody talks about hidden bonuses that bing 42% dmg reduction and 90% radiation resistance when using PA, 42% dmg alone put all resistance numbers to bed let alone radiation resistance, i just tested union vs excavator in Mirelurk queen acid attack and union survived for like 3s longer (no perks just bare pa) and this is by peoples opinion best PA, why would i trade 25 carry weight for surviving 3s more in battle and this is against battle that is only poison damage, in other is even less difference so why are people still praising 150 poison damage resistance like it's holy grail than actually testing it? do people just see numbers on paper rather than actually testing it? not to mention how much harder is to get union than excavator. i dont have 1st so weight mangment is real deal so i have union PA colecting dust after long grind actually thinking it's going to be quite the diffrence and even in raids my excavator isn't even remotely challenged i dont even need stimpaks if you have vamp.

[Mr G]

Without looking into the technical aspects, the main reason for me would be that the Union armor has a jetpack mod, whereas the Excavator does not. The jetpack is very handy in raids for avoiding the Ultragenetic Mole Miner and for hovering in place to avoid the blowback attack from the Ultracite Terror.

[Anethin]

Yep i use Vulcan full set and with full hp build i can go shoping in middle of fight and when i return im still alive, ppl wanted F76 to be GOD simulation so it is. It dosent rly matter what you use, when everything dies in one shot. Im waiting for items or perks that will kill lower lvl mobs in 50m radius becouse its anoying when mole rats atacks you.

[Phantom]

1 - Union provides good carry weight and poison resistance
2 - Strangler adds (very minor) poison damage to every attack
3 - Vulkan adds ap regen and core use reduction - BUT has gimbled bracers which massively boost both vats accuracy and out of vats hip fire accuracy... also has some other things like elastic which let you jump higher (but since calibrated is basically essential you won't likely use these)

[Mooman]

Mirelurk Queens have one of the strongest poison attacks in the game. Where that 150 resistance shines is against the lowest poison attacks as it negates most fully.

Toxic blood mutation, Mirelurk King psionic attack, Trogs etc. are all nullified by the resistance. While it's true you could just heal through it all, sometimes it's better to just ignore it instead.

Next update the carry weight difference won't be as useful as all PA is getting an effective 50lbs increase via a strength boost (+10 strength).

[kitekrazy]

Excavator is an easy death in the last 2 rounds of a raid.

[Traveler]

Why would anyone use other than T65?

[lockwoodx]

Union is top dog but it comes with a steep grind.

[ǼȘȈȒ ȂȘǺȾȬȐ]

I take it simply.

T65 for non-ghouls
Vulcan for ghouls

Both have the highest overall set of ballistic+energy resistances,
while T-65 is high rad res and Vulcan low rad res.

Min/max of union poison res, excavator carry weight or hellcat ballistic res would be too much of grind effort.

[Zardvark]

I have a set of Excavator Armor and T-65. I use the Excavator to just that mining like lead and ultracite ores. With the right combinations of legendary perks and mods both sets give me plenty of protection. The extra carry weight on excavator is really good for scrounging, you just need to have different perk card builds to complement each type of PA.

[beagle]

Originally posted by kitekrazy:

Excavator is an easy death in the last 2 rounds of a raid.

Not if the Excavator armor was modded with poisoners and funky duds is used. I have started doing the fourth round with just my SS armor and no problem.

[Dean-G]

Originally posted by Traveler:

Why would anyone use other than T65?

easy weight.

[Dean-G]

Originally posted by kitekrazy:

Excavator is an easy death in the last 2 rounds of a raid.

like i said there is barely any difference between PA due to damage reduction in every PA

[Candidia6]

more carry weight and mineral farming, no more

[Dean-G]

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

Union is top dog but it comes with a steep grind.

to survive 3s more in acid attacks and to lose 25 carry weight? debatable

[Traveler]

Originally posted by Candidia6:

more carry weight and mineral farming, no more

There's so much scrap in the world why would anyone do something as dull as mining?