THE RAID ARE PURE CANCER - THE APOTHEOSIS OF WRONG DESIGN

[Darius]

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[Zardvark]

Well it looks like everyone is fixated on "RAIDS" there are no one doing any coop events anymore. I don't think doing "Eviction Notice" or the like is fun without at least 6 or 8 players or more.

[Global Rage]

Publicado originalmente por Deklend:

Publicado originalmente por The Grimm Reefer:

Loving the raids. It sucked at first it really did. getting 1 and 2 shot by everything. At this point only need myself and the wife to get through after all the grinding and slowly putting together raid armor.

Sorry if it's TOO HARD for you and you don't wanna put in the effort to get better.,

being forced into a meta build that someone else created for you isn't "getting better".

They built a asymmetrical game, threw in mutations and legendaries, but instead of understanding what they did wrong cough cough look at (CCP GAMES DUST 514) they doubled down on stupid. They did everything that CCP did after CCP failed-but it is Bethesda. Dust 514 was a better game..no really it was.

[Unexpected Outcome]

Publicado originalmente por Zardvark:

Well it looks like everyone is fixated on "RAIDS" there are no one doing any coop events anymore. I don't think doing "Eviction Notice" or the like is fun without at least 6 or 8 players or more.

I love eviction notice and it's a mystery to me how I can be on a full server and have NO ONE show up to do it. Tons of legendaries, ammo, and other trinkets and it's fun. Idk.

[Zardvark]

Publicado originalmente por Unexpected Outcome:

Publicado originalmente por Zardvark:

Well it looks like everyone is fixated on "RAIDS" there are no one doing any coop events anymore. I don't think doing "Eviction Notice" or the like is fun without at least 6 or 8 players or more.

I love eviction notice and it's a mystery to me how I can be on a full server and have NO ONE show up to do it. Tons of legendaries, ammo, and other trinkets and it's fun. Idk.

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Yea I agree. After all the quests are done the game is pretty much done too. All the events that are not connected to the quests provide a way to "level up" and collect tons of scrap, weapons and mods. However a couple of new events (Raids) have gone to the extremes. I stick around just for the diversion and to relax. Also building camps and changing them is fun to me also. I did like the old way of getting mods and legendary weapons but the new twist is crippled on that.

[NIkto Barada]

dont need em. drove me away from the game, cant compete and it would require extra time on top of dailies. so whatever.

[Darius]

For complete a raid immense resource are needed, immense, and the reward are NOT guaranteed and pityfull

[OGPG]

I've never run the Gleaming Depths and I dont think I ever will.
I'm a solo player and I dont like PUG's for Raids.

[Urban Legend]

Publicado originalmente por Deklend:

Publicado originalmente por The Grimm Reefer:

Loving the raids. It sucked at first it really did. getting 1 and 2 shot by everything. At this point only need myself and the wife to get through after all the grinding and slowly putting together raid armor.

Sorry if it's TOO HARD for you and you don't wanna put in the effort to get better.,

being forced into a meta build that someone else created for you isn't "getting better".

No one is forced into anything. When I first started raiding I just used whatever builds I already had with whatever gear I had at the time and did fine. Of course since then I've gone on to create my version of an 'optimum setup', but nobody forced me to do that and I could still be doing the raid even if I had not.

[Urban Legend]

Publicado originalmente por Darius:

at least this awful eyebot, why are infinite?

The simple answer is 'because that is the mechanic of the challenge'. If you could exhaust the number of repair bots, the already easy for 4 people challenge (since that is what the raid is designed to be, 4 people) would become even more easy to the point of completely trivial.

If you want an answer that 'makes sense', it would be that the machinery that generates replacement repair bots still has more than enough reserve material to keep you busy killing repair bots until you die of old age.

[BumFight]

youve been carried

[Urban Legend]

Publicado originalmente por BumFight:

youve been carried

You, who? I never needed anyone to carry me and you aren't locked into any specific build in order to do this raid. On top of which, it just gets easier and easier every time you complete it and incorporate the new gear you get into your setup. Not that it ever started out all that hard in the first place.

[kitekrazy]

worst part is toxic players - rare to have team players
If you are the leader and you get the one speed run guy that starts before everyone is ready I want to kick them. I don't do it because do unto others.

I find the biggest issue is the lack of zooming out. For the difficulty of the raids the player is at the mercy of poor visuals and player control. Nothing like moving the mouse around and the E button still fails to pick up a gas can.

[BumFight]

yeah sure mate, your super special snowflake builds dont need to be optimal to do raids whatever opinion discarded

[Percello]

No real point in doing the whole raid. Just farm the first boss.

[uebie420]

Publicado originalmente por OGPG:

I've never run the Gleaming Depths and I dont think I ever will.
I'm a solo player and I dont like PUG's for Raids.

The first part of the raid is soloable even without cheesing it and for me it's been a good source for legendary mods.