is it just me or is the latest addition RAIDS way to difficult?

[Optical Optimus]

I came across the new RAID missions, they are fun the first Raid i started was succesful, even when i died at the end not knowing bloodied gets 1-shot by the spit, without vamp minigun.

But i have to say, the 4 man RAID is too difficult, especially when you got to dodge the spit and watch out for the Tail and platforms flooding, it takes a lot of practice and really good weapons, like a vamp gaussminigun for a heavy build to be effective, i even got to the floodings phase 1 alone becasue my team left after failure, we surely need a better camera position to see the puddles underneath our boots, and see which platforms flood, maybe add an indicator of some sorts, since then i never finished the Snake Boss ever again.

Anyone else havibg problems with the snake?

[SamsonOfOld]

To the idiots who actually even suggested the raid you guys are the biggest idiots in the gaming society as a whole these raids should never have even been brought back to begin with next case and point the f****** dumbass elites thinking the only they deserve the best of the best it's those type of dumb f**** and the gaming society that need to f****** be banned from every mother f****** game and community

[BizarreMan]

You're not expected to finish it the first time through. Maybe not the second either.

[BizarreMan]

Originally posted by put dispenser here:

Elite World of Warcraft guilds took days/weeks and hundreds of wipes to figure out raids during betas. They then made that info public for all to see.

F76 raids are 100x easier. Just give it some time and people will figure it out too.

I know people who already have it down. I have yet to be a beneficiary of their largesse. But I know it can be done.

[Mooman]

'Difficulty' is a matter of cheese. Like most games there are cheese strategies that make the difficulty trivial.

It's sad that gear ends up more important than skill. Whada ya mean ya haven't unlocked all the legendary mods yet? You had a few months... (this is what it feels like...).

[beagle]

It's difficult. More difficult to those who haven't been blessed with the more tanky stuff. Got through it but I didn't enjoy it. It's just not fun. Waste of resources and time.

They need to have an alternative way to earn the 4-5 star legendaries and the other loot. It's just not fair.

[beagle]

Originally posted by Optical Optimus:

I came across the new RAID missions, they are fun the first Raid i started was succesful, even when i died at the end not knowing bloodied gets 1-shot by the spit, without vamp minigun.

But i have to say, the 4 man RAID is too difficult, especially when you got to dodge the spit and watch out for the Tail and platforms flooding, it takes a lot of practice and really good weapons, like a vamp gaussminigun for a heavy build to be effective, i even got to the floodings phase 1 alone becasue my team left after failure, we surely need a better camera position to see the puddles underneath our boots, and see which platforms flood, maybe add an indicator of some sorts, since then i never finished the Snake Boss ever again.

Anyone else havibg problems with the snake?

I had o do the snake multiple times before I finally killed it. Not fun.

[The Grimm Reefer]

I hope they make it harder. Honestly. It's a breeze once you learn it. It ain't rocket science.

[beagle]

Originally posted by The Grimm Reefer:

I hope they make it harder. Honestly. It's a breeze once you learn it. It ain't rocket science.

Of course it is...a breeze. That's why you have to wait hours just to get a team and then they quit when they get killed.

Was stupid not to design it for all players, not just the prima donna's.

[Phantom]

Finally got my full vulkan set

Solo the first boss in about 2 minutes at range, and I could do it in about 30 seconds with the autoaxe and frame move

Autoaxe (Bloodied, power attack, str, pounders) + (full vulkan (ap regen on damage) troubleshooters, str, thru-hikers, reflective), using food buffs, drugs, and sugar free nukashine (of which I have 3 left I gotta figure out how to obtain more, probably one of the gold vendors sells it)



At range its the same set of armour but

Gatling Plasma (bloodied, faster fire, vats ap cost, -nothing- [[probably conductors when I get it, but maybe polished?]]) then I just stand and deliver the pain to him while he melts

Probably luck as my 2* armour mod would be a far superior choice here, but the autoaxe is so stupidly STUPIDLY powerful with pounders that str is my choice and vulkan sucks for carry weight so 50 extra weight is a nice qol bonus


Eitherway

Stage 1 solo easy... with my setup its actually easier than with a group, as his attacking me hurts him directly... with a group he only attacks me 1/4th of the time

Stage 2 I need help, just can't imagine anyone solo'ing it in its current form

Stage 3 I can solo, but solo'ing the trio is painfully slow as you've got to constantly take out the shield generators... The melee autoaxe melts them in seconds when I can hit them... just so much faster in a group though

Stage 4 This one is actually far easier solo than in a group... enemies all always aggro on you which makes them easy to group up and its easy to keep track of the mole

Stage 5 This one is pretty easy to solo (with the gatling plasma) and my full poison resist set

Stage 4 and 5 I use my union (jet pack) + overeaters + poisoners + thru-hikers set (also no 4*'s yet) and the gatling plasma

He goes down pretty easily

Using regular stimpacks on occasion to negate damage



Have started joining random raids and completing them for people at this point

Once people start getting their raid gear and weapons it'll become easier and easier for people to do it

Spent 3 hours+ hopping for the accelerated nozzle and stinging core for the gatling plasma, had no luck but one of my friends had friends who had either half and now he has a stack of 30+ of them to give out to buddies or sell to public

getting that easily tripled my DPS output at range over my previous godroll gauss minigun / .50 cal

[Anethin]

Everything depends on people i go there first time lvl 700 with OE, Endurance T-65, and AA gauss minigun, but before watch youtube, done it at first attempt with 2 deaths. We had one lvl 140 who mostly die fast, raid isnt hard if we compared it to The Division 2, community wanted F76 as looting shooter rater than survival game, so i dont understand blaming.

[DUP]

"community wanted F76 as looting shooter"
Community wanted.. what? When and where?

[Optical Optimus]

I see only people with the "full" gear can accomplish this raid with ease, but what abotu all the noobs who just want to test it out?

I agree on some parts Samsons said, this is elitist in a way that only rewards a small group of people.

i also thought i'd get plans for the power armor so i scraped the 3 peices i got from my first encounter, drill and 3 Powerarmor guys, and finaly the Snake Boss. I tried going in with the Robot and i can't do it, since i don't have the troubleshooters Power armor effects to make it easier i also don't have any vamp melee weapon except the Minigun shredder.

So should i just give up on RAIDS now? and "farm" my gear just like in any other MMO, is that it?

I still wished that the RAID was with 8 People instead of 4, you never Raid in a 4man group in any MMO and i played quite a lot of mmos and Raided there too.

Thank you all for your input i will try to farm the appopriate gear and get my Funkyduts to max, have it currently at 3rd stage.

[Optical Optimus]

Update


it is doable once you got the right perks and team, you can finish the whole gleaming pit in about 20 minutes

[Goof]

its really tedious and super unfun. maybe if you had irl friends to play with, it would be good.... but raiding with randos is terrible

[Optical Optimus]

Originally posted by Goof:

its really tedious and super unfun. maybe if you had irl friends to play with, it would be good.... but raiding with randos is terrible

yeah i lived through this, i had this one guy who didn't want to target the tail and wiped us both everytime.