Ammo converter worth the 500 atoms?

[DigiAngel]

I remember that the use of this was meh at best when it came out...how it it now?

[Razer]

I personally really like it. |t gives you 25% of the ammo you trade in for ammo you do need. Since there's so much useless ammo to be found it's worth it for me.

[DarkTemplarlord]

You can also get it with gold bullion. For me its usefull getting explosive ammo by farming cannon balls that Angry Turtle showed cannonball farming is far best way to get points,
but yea other use is quite tedious to use

[Razer]

引用自 DarkTemplarlord：

You can also get it with gold bullion. For me its usefull getting explosive ammo by farming cannon balls that Angry Turtle showed cannonball farming is far best way to get points,
but yea other use is quite tedious to use

Note that this is per character, while bought with atoms unlocks for all your characters. Good to keep in mind.

[AimlessArrow]

So-so.
If you loot every piece of ammo on sight, just because its there, than its handy.
Otherwise because of the terrible Ui, its not worth the time to use. I still has ~50000 points from the max. so i got covered with arrow for the time being, and I'll pass on it, once it emptied.

[Razer]

引用自 FalseProphet：

So-so.
If you loot every piece of ammo on sight, just because its there, than its handy.
Otherwise because of the terrible Ui, its not worth the time to use. I still has ~50000 points from the max. so i got covered with arrow for the time being, and I'll pass on it, once it emptied.

I use it once every week and it takes like 30 seconds to convert all ammo. The interface is far from optimal, but it's not as terrible as people make it out to be. You can use it pretty quickly. You just have to press back and then convert again, but the interface doesn't lag or anything so you can do this fairly quickly.

[AimlessArrow]

I learned the options, it gives to a certain ammo-type. Eg. . 50 ball: 5, 50, 500
.45: 12, 120, 1200 and so on. It made the thing lot easier to use. But I given up using it once it reached full. Until then it required 5-10 mins/day from my life. (yeah, I sometimes loaded well over 1000, but short of the next higher option of that ammo-type).

[GeneralGamePlaying]

Selling some ammo is realy slow too :p. I'm giving away .308 and 5mm just so, since they've short-circuited my stash once or twice. Explosive and weight-heavy ammo, .38, .50 caliber balls... not even collecting anymore.

Otherwise the ammo converter is pointless with the raider ammo machine already, i assume. Really may depend on how and how much time people play and if they're set to use the scrounger perk, diligently go through containers etc., but the machine might have a higher output than you can collect and convert in the same time.

I'd rather do a "can do" run at the fair, waterpark or valley galleria mall for canned coffee. That's something with useful output.

Certainly legendary ammo factory and the raider machine should make it entirely superfluous, as people pointed out already. The daily ops may double the balance towards not buying, depending on ammo type and state of things, concerning play style and ammo-efficiency. And if you are using prime ammo, ammo factory is the way to go anyway.

[Mooman]

Another thing to consider is the next patch will add contextual ammo to containers and mobs, much like daily ops/seasonal gifts now.

I don't have experience from the pts but I'm sure it will help with ammo supply a lot so converting won't be as necessary (might even be impossible if you don't get other ammo).

Patch is planned for Dec 7th.

[The Commendatore]

lolno

[Vic Evicerator]

Tedious to use but very useful for packrats like me. I pick up every ammo piece I come across (super light), then convert en masse for the types I actually use. Once you make a cheat sheet to keep by your (console/PC) that tells you the default amounts that the machine trades in for each ammo type you can minimize the tediousness - e.g. if 10mm ammo trades in 24/240/2400 bunches, save it up until you have 480 or 960 and then it's just a few clicks.

Another useful aspect - railroad spikes take steel only to craft at a Tinker's Workbench. If you're dripping in steel, craft a buttload of RR spikes then trade them into the converter for stuff you can actually use. The trade ratio isn't quite good enough for you to completely rule out Lucky-Hole-Mine-Excavator runs, but it works in a pinch.

[GeneralGamePlaying]

引用自 Vic Evicerator：

for packrats

Makes sense. Maintaining such a detail may not be tedious for some people or within specific play styles at all, or even be helpful earlier on as well. After all it's not complicated to do, compared to maintaining a low health or junkie's build...

If it pays to spend the atoms... or buy atoms... another question. You could spend atoms on lunch boxes or progress within the season. All options making more or less sense, depending on further circumstances.

[Razer]

引用自 GeneralGamePlaying：

Selling some ammo is realy slow too :p. I'm giving away .308 and 5mm just so, since they've short-circuited my stash once or twice. Explosive and weight-heavy ammo, .38, .50 caliber balls... not even collecting anymore.

Otherwise the ammo converter is pointless with the raider ammo machine already, i assume. Really may depend on how and how much time people play and if they're set to use the scrounger perk, diligently go through containers etc., but the machine might have a higher output than you can collect and convert in the same time.

I'd rather do a "can do" run at the fair, waterpark or valley galleria mall for canned coffee. That's something with useful output.

Certainly legendary ammo factory and the raider machine should make it entirely superfluous, as people pointed out already. The daily ops may double the balance towards not buying, depending on ammo type and state of things, concerning play style and ammo-efficiency. And if you are using prime ammo, ammo factory is the way to go anyway.

To be fair, Legendary Ammo factory is nice, but levelling it up takes a long time. You want to waste 100s of levels of perk points on this thing while you could be getting more actual value out of your legendary perks? I have mine sitting at Rank 2 for a long time. I'm not looking to put in 100 perk points for Rank 3 while I could be spending this on things that actually give value. I use the ammo converter in combination with the Raider Collectron (which generates random ammo) so it actually has more value to buy this thing as opposed to maxing ammo factory and not being able to equip perks that actually affect your stats.

Don't know why people respond to this looking at it from a level 300+ perspective to give advice to newer players. Sure if you're level 1000 and all your stuff is maxed then this thing has less value. But picking this up early has a lot of value. It's like the other day I'm reading a vet give advice to a new player stating he should rank up a legendary perk to rank 4. I mean...

[Mooman]

引用自 Razer：

Don't know why people respond to this looking at it from a level 300+ perspective to give advice to newer players. Sure if you're level 1000 and all your stuff is maxed then this thing has less value. But picking this up early has a lot of value. It's like the other day I'm reading a vet give advice to a new player stating he should rank up a legendary perk to rank 4. I mean...

Yeah, that's one thing that always makes me scratch my head. They forget they have multiple seasons of perk coins/card packs, NW coin conversion, and probably an alt that already unlocked the slots >level 50.

The advice I try to give low levels is to level up as a melee character without many cards and collect ammo and perk cards before focusing on your chosen weapon. It can be hard without the knowledge of what is good or can be left till later, buff vs utility is an important balance post One Wasteland.

On a side note. Destiny 2 has realised ammo gathering in shooter games is not fun and have changed their guns ammo generation. I know Fallout is technically an RPG but as it moves to more ammo hungry horde events I'd hope the devs realise the penalty to fun, efficient combat ammo management brings.

Ammo management is fine, just have to reduce the number of bullet sponges around.

[m142]

引用自 Mooman：

Another thing to consider is the next patch will add contextual ammo to containers and mobs, much like daily ops/seasonal gifts now.

I don't have experience from the pts but I'm sure it will help with ammo supply a lot so converting won't be as necessary (might even be impossible if you don't get other ammo).

Patch is planned for Dec 7th.

Wouldn't that mean it'll be harder to farm Rockets & Nukes? For some it might make ammo converter more convinient.
Also 0.44 is great for convertion into points.

[Dwarf80]

might be ok for private server since not able to sell excess...