Enclave turrets, is it definitive that they are stronger than normal turrets?

[Bobby Digital™]

Looking for a straight forward answer, yes or no. I'm wanting to buy the bundle if it is "yes".

Ty in advance

[Bobby Digital™]

i'll mostly be glad to have some different stuff to build with. i've had the same main camp, the exact same design for a long time. it's not like a dedicated builder type camp, it just had all the stuff i needed and my store and crafting stuff easy for ppl to find.

that said, i've been crafting stuff in my camp and half the time ghouls, rad scorpions and other things get through while i do that and they break stuff, so it will be fun to see the turrets in action :)

[Mooman]

zephyrillo の投稿を引用：

How can my camp fight back when my turrets are weaker. Not fair.

Ok, but how often is anyone in camp vs camp combat?

If your opponent has an advantage, retreat and only attack from a position of strength. That's strategy as defined by Sun Tzu.

[zephyrillo]

<-._.-._BloodPie_.-._.-> の投稿を引用：

zephyrillo の投稿を引用：

Fine, then Bethesda should say Fallout 76 is "Pay to Win" when they say it is not. Truth in advertising because customers buy this game because they say it is not "Pay to Win".

Having a scrap box is convenience, just helps with inventory management and does not give a player a rate of fire and damage advantage over me and NPCs.

If the scrap box is what you call convenience then the turrets are the same dude, you can kill the turrets in 1 or 2 shots, if you are bad you might need to shoot them 3 times with a BB gun xD Also people who put up there camps just to have a little ekstra firepower have to be weak in the first place, also takes time to place and cost some caps, doing this every time you run into a larger enemie isnt worth it.

But i still respect you opinion that you think the paid turrets are P2W i have never lost to a turret though and i run with a total of 140 DR/ER thats it.

You write that other players have unfair fire rate and damage? You do understand that the Turrets are only placeable in you camps right? Its not like they sit on the back of you or on you shoulders xD
You cant just place turrets where ever you want to place them.


Edit: I have to ask you about this, but are you Russian by any chance and just mad that you cant pay for anything and just want to call it P2W because you cant buy Atoms and Fallout First?

That is so wrong, I have been gunned down by my six turrets at a "claimed workshop" when I was a newbie when a much higher player started pvp and I did not arrive soon enough or understand what was going on. Now some players will have more than twice the fire power at "clamed workshops" than other players.

That Russian stuff is just stupid so I will not reply.

[zephyrillo]

Mooman の投稿を引用：

zephyrillo の投稿を引用：

How can my camp fight back when my turrets are weaker. Not fair.

Ok, but how often is anyone in camp vs camp combat?

If your opponent has an advantage, retreat and only attack from a position of strength. That's strategy as defined by Sun Tzu.

I wasn't even there. I just showed up and saw the camp killer and took some pics. If my turrets were stronger though I might have caused more damage to them.

Again, some people are getting an advantage over others.

[Mooman]

zephyrillo の投稿を引用：

I wasn't even there. I just showed up and saw the camp killer and took some pics. If my turrets were stronger though I might have caused more damage to them.

Again, some people are getting an advantage over others.

No, in this case it's griefers using a PvP mechanic with splash damage. Your camp won't fight back unless they are PvPing you.

[zephyrillo]

<-._.-._BloodPie_.-._.-> の投稿を引用：

camp vs camp, never, camps cannot legit be places so close to each other that turrets starts shooting at other players base, even if that would be the case i would just place one of my other camps in the map away from that camp and then wreck that other players base to paste! If a player truely places a base in range of another players base and it starts shooting at the camp/base that means they are in pvp and that also means they have to be kinda close to there base/camp both of them or this would not be the case, are you sure its not the same person who have that base? He/She might just thought it would be funny to build this kinda way?

Also the two pictures you have put up shows a base that is wrecked with 0 turrets and then a tower turret camp, i truely think its the same person who made the base look like that.


EDIT:
I have been playing sence 2018 and have way more than 4000 hours in the game, i have never seen base vs base battles.

You have to accept the duel by shooting back at the other player who is shooting at you and are you shooting back at that other player in you own base you deserve to get you base destroyed. Never accept a PvP fight in you own camp/base.

Besides you can wreck players bases in a few seconds by using legit weapons like two shot grenade launcher, rocket launchers, mirv mininukes and so on, and trust me not even 100 turrets will save you base if that happens. All Turrets are weak in pvp, like insainly weak.

I actually made a series where i raid peoples work shop with TS auto grenade launcher and in workshops you can place 20 turrets but that wont help agenst me, here is the link to the playlist of the mini series i made.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9rBGvj2hGr3CF7ULTE6dV9uKongMreDn

I don't know what happened, but I know who did it, but I don't know the person or had interactions with them before. With over 2000 hrs myself I have never been hit before by a griefer where actual damage was done to my camp when I was there. And I have been hit by all that you mentioned and nothing, not even the crops damaged because I just "laugh" at them and watch the show. Those are actual aftermath pictures on the same road with the same cliffline on the same cloudy day and something happened when I was not there. I just had the basic turrets for occasional pest and it worked well. From the pictures though, It sure looks like that "killer" camp had a purpose in the griefing.