Discussing The Most Sucessful Live Service Game

[Nifty]

Here in the west the term Live Service Game is synonymous with inferior product. That's not me that's the gaming community as a whole.

But there are gaming communities where this isn't the case.

Not sure if anyone has tried Genshin Impact recently or your resident anime girl slot machine but they have added a metric crap ton of content.

Game has been out for 4 years now, and while they do the constant new character thing like League of Legends that isn't what won them mobile game of the year award.

They add two to three brand new open worlds every year!

Fallout 76 had been out for a similar amount of time and they added 1 map, and have similar micro transaction cash grab nonsense.

Say what you want about people spending tens of thousand on an anime game and ruining their life (gambling is bad guys)

But does Mihoyo stick that money back into their Live service game.

The west could learn a lesson, Live Service doesn't mean nonsense grinds, it means new assets, new systems, new content.

[wulfrik656]

Helldivers 2 is the best live service game, outside of all the nerfs and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ community managers, other devs are to lazy to put in the effort to make live service work in my opinion

[Zylli]

I would argue Warframe is the most successful live service game. It has been around for a while and shows no signs of stopping.

[hawkeye]

I don't know if EVE Online counts as Live Service.
https://www.ign.com/articles/how-eve-onlines-players-started-a-war-thats-cost-700k

Would anyone play an FO76 PvP where getting killed destroys the character and assets permanently, no respawn?

[Wack-A-Mole MLRS]

Farmville-It's been 11 years sense I logged on but I think my crops are still growing.

[MarioDragon]

Originally posted by wulfrik656:

Helldivers 2 is the best live service game, outside of all the nerfs and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ community managers, other devs are to lazy to put in the effort to make live service work in my opinion

that game done killed my playgroup after Sony scared everyone into thinking they needed a PSN account. sad

[The Executioner]

I mean it's bethesda they aren't going to dump anything into a game they don't have to. This is simply a passive cash cow for them and the content they add is well garbage and boring. End game is literally grinding X currency doing mundane boring content while the playerbase being okay with it. That's how you end up with brain dead content like Daily ops and whatever that crap they added in for stamps is called. The community isn't going anywhere there isn't another fallout mmo and people who enjoy fallout aren't going anywhere. That's why the game has gone nowhere in the past 5 years.

[Roadie]

Originally posted by wulfrik656:

Helldivers 2 is the best live service game, outside of all the nerfs and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ community managers, other devs are to lazy to put in the effort to make live service work in my opinion

Helldivers 2 lost 99% of their players in less than 4 months after release. It's one of the LEAST successful live service games of all time thanks to Sony greed

[Roadie]

Originally posted by hawkeye:

I don't know if EVE Online counts as Live Service.
https://www.ign.com/articles/how-eve-onlines-players-started-a-war-thats-cost-700k

Would anyone play an FO76 PvP where getting killed destroys the character and assets permanently, no respawn?

It would objectively be a better game if people actually had literally anything at stake. The fact that Bethesda relented and turned 76 into a carebear Passive Mode game is why its failing.

[Celtacross]

I've played some live service games. But a few that I can say have great success is almost all made by Hoyoverse/Hoyolab, AKA Genshin Impact, Honkai Impact 3rd, and Honkai Star Rail (Latest addition is Zenless Zero Zone). I played both of them (GI and HSR), and unlike most developers, hoyolab listen to players and until now, have a really high standards in both community, gameplay and interactive.
Anyone who caught hacking or using third party engine to cheat pretty much landed themselves permanent ban from the game. Developers also engaged with the community aswell. If there's something wrong in the game (happened when someone exploit a bug on newly opened area that pretty much causing a softlock to other players when they play in party), they don't hestitated to lock the system while they investigate it, and ban the alleged players for good. And they don't shy to give player compensation aswell when that happened.
The only problems I think, is that like most live service games is that the gacha system along with the need to constant connection aswell, though they seems a lot more consistent and generous compared others.

I regard Hoyolab as the one that give the best live-service games for their free to play, and very high standard.

Can't say the same with Korean developers so far, and for FO76 that you need to buy the games just to play. Neverless, I play FO76, because of the story and I'm a fan of Fallout seriees. Besides, I need to change paces to get out of boredom and burning out.

If there's anything, I'm quite doubtful about the longetivity of live-service games in the future.