I now get why its so grindy.. coz once u get the required stuff there is nothing to do ..

[Bullied by Pigeon]

im still grinding for full set of unyielding SS armor.. right now i only have chest and left arm im almost set for new set have 20 modules.. ill wait till i have atleast 24 before i roll for right arm.. but i already feel like im not enjoying anymore.. i have got all teh bloodied junkie vampire weapons i need in multiple characters for different playstyles.. everytime i get above 27K caps i go shopping for new weapons / armor.. and 2 of my secondary characters have a full unyielding BOS heavy combat armor which is more than enough... i tried all weapons i liked..except guass minigun and idont feel like grinding for it or chemist backpack.. im happy with grocers .. like there is nothing to do.. collosal problem was fun for couple of times buts its just a massive ammunition sink.. i just take my gatling lazer with free fusion cores i accumlate from playtime and unload on Earl till i exhaust most of the cores then i just go on about wacking wendigos for screws and let teh team finish him.. im not spending 2K ammo .. SBQ in comaprision is much more efficient fight..

Wish teh daily ops came sooner so i can get scirps faster and i get to have constant action as its repeatable.

[TheSuit]

That's the definition of all MMO games.
You grind for loot basically.

[Bullied by Pigeon]

ill be mad if they removed scrips from basic reward tier which is repeatable... wish cyberpunk wasnt delayed :(.. another 80 more days to go

[~KeNnEtH~]

Every game eventually has an end.

Some games try to overcome this by having new game+ and some have it by varying difficulties.

The former is technically artificial and basically just restarting a new character but with stronger than normal gear or stats. Of course, in some games, new game+ just means a medal or symbol attached to the account.

The latter can't be done by MMOs.

So, unfortunately, you just have to wait for new content or move on to another game then either come back when new content drops or move on completely.

You can start another character to do a "new game+" by transferring some equipment over but ultimately, there really is only so much a game can offer.

[Fjolde]

Grinding is to be expected with any online game, it's just about finding a grind you like/don't mind.

However! The Settler/Raider daily system is absolutely stupid. 1 quest a day that gives a small tick. Not just 1 quest but the same quest over and over and over and over. 5+ other named NPCs but they all just repeat nonsense.

Ward is often broken.

Sorry got off topic.

[Bullied by Pigeon]

cant you just server hop to get a new roll on daily ops mutations? my railway rifle in autofire also relies heavily on VATS.. so cloaked robots will be a pain.. but i also have a bloodied power fist as secondary infact i have bloodied powefist for all 3 of my characters.. even if ur not speced for unarmed it will 1 shot most enemies, not sure if they will still keep teh damage nerf on it with next patch..

[rpwalle]

When can we start to see 4 star and 5 star legendary weapons and armor?

[Hefutoxin]

Over 225 hours and just started on a new Character. A Berserker/ Tank build. Going for a wall of health with Endurance. Leveling as Berserker without any armor/clothes at all. Toss on a Power Armor for end game activities like Blast Zones and Encryptid.

Still haven't launched a nuke or finished the Wastelander quests. Zero Bloodied, Junkie, or Vampire weapons. Zero Unyielding armor.

Try playing the sandbox in a different way, instead of just the same character with a different weapon.

[~KeNnEtH~]

引用自 eddie：

Grinding is to be expected with any online game, it's just about finding a grind you like/don't mind.

However! The Settler/Raider daily system is absolutely stupid. 1 quest a day that gives a small tick. Not just 1 quest but the same quest over and over and over and over. 5+ other named NPCs but they all just repeat nonsense.

Ward is often broken.

Sorry got off topic.

For the daily missions, there are some options that can speed things up a little.

If you doing Vital Equipment for Settlers, choose the give reward to Foundation for more rep. If you doing this quest but wanna increase Raider rep, there is skill check that allows you to give the item to the raider. It cannot be the Blood Eagle raider but Crater raiders can be talked to if you are at least not hostile with Crater.

If you doing Early Retirement Plan for Raiders, just kill the former raider or let him/her die then just go back to Crater and choose the "Appalachia has a new corpse" option. If you doing this quest but wanna increase Settler rep, there is skill check that allows you to tell them to defect to Foundation.

Then, there is also Davenport quest to take photos. Just take photos of the opposing faction you wanna get rep for then go give them the photos for rep by choosing not to take reward. You can even use a skill check to make Davenport not angry with you.

Raider rep can even be gotten from the Ohio River adventures.

So, actually, there are a number of dailies you can do to raise the rep but yes, it is a grind.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Wastelanders_reputations

[Hefutoxin]

引用自 Morbious：

berserkers better with a busted stealth suit...you still keep the rad resist and stealth ability so you can enter the nuked zones dunno how it'd fare in enctpt but can still enter and exit the pa while wearing it

The goal isn't to optimize something. The goal is to play the game in a different way.

[Bullied by Pigeon]

tried all variants initally dint like most .. im no masochist.. other than Bloodied/Unyielding, Junkies/vanguard, Vampire/anything the only thing i did find worth having was a Instigator + Executioner combo weapons.. my first Railway legendary was a instigator i still have it and i bought executioner railway rifle from someone selling for cheap 300caps.. they make for excellent combination without having to go lowhealth . thats what i used while i gathered unyielding armor set .. i find rest of the legendaries underwhelming not even worth time/resources .. they are just there to populate ♥♥♥♥ in loot tables so it makes grind longer... and no i dont enjoy being Masochist.. you do you.

[Hefutoxin]

引用自 Morbious：

i understand that some people enjoy pain....
and ive met afew players that wore just there under wear and used boxing gloves for theme
with a name like MCpunchyface

i was just trying to point out that pa defeats the object of going berserker with a pa suit when the broken stealth does the same but you still keep the theme

Are you guys AFK while playing? The game, flat out, isn't difficult. There isn't any "pain" nor am I a masochist. Bloodied builds get taken down by mole rats. I can take hits from Deathclaws that are twice my level. My survivability is far better than you think.

I don't want to exploit broken armor. I don't want to play poor-mans Bloodied/ Junkie. I want to play something different.

I currently run Rank 3 Cannibal for healing. Rads are the issue now. I'm strongly considering going Pistol for mobility; especially with the changes coming with the Tank Killer perk.

The game opens up to a ton of variety when you stop focusing on the completely over-the-top DPS.

[Natius]

The main instrument of Every game online is grinding
If there is no grind, the game will out of content in 1 month
if the game out of content, playerbase decrease so fast
if playerbase decrease, the game will be abandon

Same like your favourite game = Dead by Daylight
you need grind bloodpoints to buy killer or survivor, you need grind costume, and you need grind for level too
If you dont want grind, i bet your playtime will not above 50 hours
Just accept it, the online game will out of content one day, thats why there are many option to play