Delete legacy and hacked weapons already

[☠ The Grim Reaper ☠]

We are sick off it, it destroys the game and make many people leave the game, just do something already, stop ignoring the playerbase, its high time to do something, i encounter someone using hacked weapon in early everu new event...

[Mooman]

I don't think it's that easy. I'm by no means that knowledgeable but from what I understand about weapons/gear is that it's not a case of find the hacked weapon and effect and remove them.

Weapons and gear are made up of a series of tables that define their characteristics. As a weapon is created it is assigned values as it step through those tables. Think of it like an equation. At the end of an equation you get an output but have no idea what formula was used to get that output, and many different equations can can end up with the same output.

Using legacy Dragons as an example the game doesn't see a Dragon and assign basic stats. It sees a Dragon to use the animations but the range stats come from elsewhere. If the game first realised that all Dragons should be equal then there wouldn't be a difference in legacy and now.

As much as I would like to see them adjusted, not gone per se, I really don't think that's possible without scrubbing all Gatling Plasmas in the process. I've suggested in the past that Bethesda could run a gun buy back amnesty. Award tokens to all owners, scrub the guns, then use those tokens to buy new fixed effect guns (a range to suit different needs).

[Rubber]

Originally posted by Dezktop:

i dont personally agree with deleting legacy weapons ppl seem attached to those but the hacked gatlin plasmas ..... pls do something not all legacy weapons are the issues its more this hacked one that is just claimed to be legacy

agreed

[goforit]

Originally posted by Grubbs008:

Originally posted by goforit:

Hey grim - how can I tell if someone is using a legacy weapon? Do they one-shot kill everything so it's obvious?
Thanks

Legacy Weapons are Explosive Energy weapons. Because they use to exist when the game first game out, but no longer do. And people have duped them. Bethesda won't get rid of them.

Hacked weapons on the other hand are something entirely different, and the OP apparently does not know this, you will know when you see it, because they can 2-3 shot Earle Williams the monaghan mine raid boss.

Thanks for taking the time to reply. Clearly I am not the owner of ant legacy weapon. Thanks again for your reply. Cheers

[Phantom]

not reading anything here

why they won't ever remove them

- Players who have them have played a while
- Players who have them spend more on fo1st and atoms than those who don't

[sascomander]

Originally posted by Phantom:

not reading anything here

why they won't ever remove them

- Players who have them have played a while
- Players who have them spend more on fo1st and atoms than those who don't

- Bethesda devs sell them.

[Saga of Ilthire]

Agreed

[Mooman]

Originally posted by Phantom:

not reading anything here

why they won't ever remove them

- Players who have them have played a while
- Players who have them spend more on fo1st and atoms than those who don't

This argument is complete BS. What you're saying is because someone pays for something they should be able to do as they please?

No, it's what the legacy holders tell themselves because deep down they know they could lose that advantage someday.

Provide the evidence of Bethesda's income and player inventories.

[Kerr Avon]

How many of the explosive plasma weapons are legacy? How many are hacked/duped? And why NOT just get rid of them. If it's from an oversight in coding, then getting rid of them should be part of the "fix". And if it's a hack/duplicate item, then getting rid of them is fair anyway. Sure it stinks for someone who got one legitimately, but what percentage of the items is that? 5%? 1%? .0001%?

[Phantom]

I doubt bethesda out and out sells them

But they do get money from players who do, and they do get money from those who use them

removing or weakening legacies would cause most legacy players with them to outright quit

They let the rot last too long and now the limbs are gangrenous.

[Phantom]

Originally posted by ZER0 %K:

Originally posted by limbaugh1685:

How many of the explosive plasma weapons are legacy? How many are hacked/duped? And why NOT just get rid of them. If it's from an oversight in coding, then getting rid of them should be part of the "fix". And if it's a hack/duplicate item, then getting rid of them is fair anyway. Sure it stinks for someone who got one legitimately, but what percentage of the items is that? 5%? 1%? .0001%?

people really gotta learn the difference between hacked weapons and duped items and legacy weapons

To this

0.001% of the legacy weapons are legit... the be all was magic weapons back then which got fixed... the explosive energy weapons were not as popular. Plus a lot of the players with them quit effectively removing them from the market

5% of the legacy weapons are dupes of one of those legit ones

94.999% of the rest are injected weapons with things that they COULD have had and then duped... essentially legacies that got created

[Kerr Avon]

Originally posted by ZER0 %K:

Originally posted by limbaugh1685:

How many of the explosive plasma weapons are legacy? How many are hacked/duped? And why NOT just get rid of them. If it's from an oversight in coding, then getting rid of them should be part of the "fix". And if it's a hack/duplicate item, then getting rid of them is fair anyway. Sure it stinks for someone who got one legitimately, but what percentage of the items is that? 5%? 1%? .0001%?

people really gotta learn the difference between hacked weapons and duped items and legacy weapons

Duped items can be either hacked or legacy. And clearly, by actually reading my post, I clearly know the difference between the two. Plus, even a legacy weapon is illegitimate if duped.

[DtHouse]

At the moment there only 2 legacy that still do massive damage, the Plasma Gatling and the Flame. The other hacked weapons don't do any more damage after the NW was removed and the magazine load was fixed. Only 2 really last in game, don't need to remove every legacy from the game xD Just fix this 2 weapons with the wrong damage.

[morikaane]

It's very easy to add a weapon type check to a legendary effect. Just saying.

[Arcanix]

Add a gun licence, if you buy a legacy weapon then you have to wait 5 years to be able to use it. Gun controlles. Get the guns away from the wackos, neibahood safe. Brilliant plan.

[morikaane]

Fascinating! I was actually thinking of something a little more practical along the lines of it being an on / off switch. Each their own of course!