I'm very confused by how the image of mutants on the East Coast seems to be glamorized. . .

[迪亚哥]

I checked the wiki and they said that the mutants in the East Coast are different from the mutants in the Capital Wasteland. . . This is a good explanation, but I feel that things in the wasteland have been beautified since Fallout 4. . . . The mutants in fO3 and FNV look more terrifying, more like mutated human species

The mutants in fo4 and fo76 feel like a kind of green-skinned orc. .

Have you noticed? I feel that FO4 has started to have female protagonists. Is it to cater to female players to beautify the Fallout universe and make it look less terrifying?

[Percello]

My guess would be that they mutated, since they are mutants and all.

[The Bayroog]

Well, for one thing Fallout 3 takes place on the East Coast and it probably has the most ugly super mutants, though it's hard to compare 3 to the first 2 fallout games since it boils down to god-view isometric 90s era computer graphics and any handbook art that might be floating around... I dunno, Marcus from Fallout New Vegas always looked pretty 'beautiful' to me and he's a Fallout 1 and 2 era super mutie.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Marcus

Fallout 4 had the institute working on super mutants, and arguably they got the closest to perfecting the process since one of their scientists is also a super mutant.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Brian_Virgil

I dont know enough about to FO76 super mutant population to guess why they look better than Washington D.C.'s but my guess would be it's because the Super Mutants in FO3 were abducting people and forcing the change on them, which sounds like the worst way to have it happen to you....

[The Bayroog]

As someone who is always interested in Wasteland Lore (listen, some of ya'll know them Forgotten Realms, Elder Scrolls, and Outer Rim Grey Jedi Worlds - I focus on post apocalyptic Mad Max stuff) - I find the most interesting stuff is in the fringe material:

Fallout started as a Wasteland game re-imagined, but some of that Wasteland lore still managed to creep into the Fallout franchise. But to make the lore even more wackadoo, Wasteland has it's own spin-off title called 'Fountain of Dreams' which is set on the radioactive island of Florida (lol).

But even Bethesda era Fallout dabbles in spinoffs, and now that it's all kinda being bundled together I gotta wonder how much of Fallout Tactics became canon - what IS a hairy deathclaw? (lol)

Are all of the vaults run by a central vault robo brain? Fallout Tactics AND the show kinda lends to that thought.

Its a fun franchise to read the wiki on, but as far as how concrete the lore is -- I would say take it about as seriously as 50 years of X-Men comics being turned into a timeline

[迪亚哥]

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As someone who is always interested in Wasteland Lore (listen, some of ya'll know them Forgotten Realms, Elder Scrolls, and Outer Rim Grey Jedi Worlds - I focus on post apocalyptic Mad Max stuff) - I find the most interesting stuff is in the fringe material:

Fallout started as a Wasteland game re-imagined, but some of that Wasteland lore still managed to creep into the Fallout franchise. But to make the lore even more wackadoo, Wasteland has it's own spin-off title called 'Fountain of Dreams' which is set on the radioactive island of Florida (lol).

But even Bethesda era Fallout dabbles in spinoffs, and now that it's all kinda being bundled together I gotta wonder how much of Fallout Tactics became canon - what IS a hairy deathclaw? (lol)

Are all of the vaults run by a central vault robo brain? Fallout Tactics AND the show kinda lends to that thought.

Its a fun franchise to read the wiki on, but as far as how concrete the lore is -- I would say take it about as seriously as 50 years of X-Men comics being turned into a timeline

Okay, if there is no conspiracy theory...

I think it's the weather. Although there is a radiation storm, the probability is very small...

I always feel that something is missing since FO4... I am not as invested as FO3 and FNV.

[迪亚哥]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Percello:

My guess would be that they mutated, since they are mutants and all.

Okay, if there is no conspiracy theory...

I think it's the weather. Although there is a radiation storm, the probability is very small...

I always feel that something is missing since FO4... I am not as invested as FO3 and FNV.

[tbloyzz]

Ursprungligen skrivet av The Bayroog:

Fallout 4 had the institute working on super mutants, and arguably they got the closest to perfecting the process since one of their scientists is also a super mutant.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Brian_Virgil

The human Virgil infected himself with the FEV in order to be able to hide from the institute. So him being a mutant and him working for the institute are mutually exclusive.

[tbloyzz]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Percello:

My guess would be that they mutated, since they are mutants and all.

Yeah, maybe covid-25 will make us all more beautiful too. Something to hope for.

[The Bayroog]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av The Bayroog:

Fallout 4 had the institute working on super mutants, and arguably they got the closest to perfecting the process since one of their scientists is also a super mutant.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Brian_Virgil

The human Virgil infected himself with the FEV in order to be able to hide from the institute. So him being a mutant and him working for the institute are mutually exclusive.

This is kind of semantics, the institute was abducting people in the commonwealth to experiment on them with the FEV and then dumping them back out and replacing them with synths - Virgil infected himself with the strain that the Institute had been using, with the collected knowledge they had gained from decades of experimentation. To be fair, outside of Fawkes, Virgil is the closest you get to the Masters brand of mutant, since Marcus is fully cognitive.

now, OP says that he doesnt care about Fallout 3 but he keeps saying Capital Wasteland.... Get a map and prepare to be amazed.

Fallout 3 = Capital Wasteland = East Coast

Edit: they really do spell it Capital, thats hilarious

[The Bayroog]

Im just going to nerd splooge all up in here for no reason:

Was it always a big scaly lizard thing? Nope. My initial design for this terrible creature was a the apex predator of the wasteland, a mix of wolverine and brown bear, mutated by the FEV. It could survive any environment and feared nothing; a legendary force of nature that struck terror into the hearts of men! Unfortunately, the artists took one look at my concept sketch and said, 'Dude, that's way too much hair.' It was true. The Wolverine-bear was very furry, and there was just no way around it.

So here's what happened: the newly formed Black Isle started work on what would be Planescape: Torment. One of the first art pieces was a monstrous creature called a Terrasque. It was sculpted in clay and was then point-by-painstaking-point digitized into a 3D model. As Planescape moved forward, it turned out that the Terrasque wouldn't actually be featured in its design, leaving that tasty model in disuse. Thus, the furry wolverine-bear became a hairless reptilian biped. (Take a look at page 339 of the D&D second edition Monster Manual. Holy cats! It's a Deathclaw!)

https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/fallout_gamepedia/f/fc/FB7_deathclaw_concept_art.png?version=38a61a56a525eec44af45b2f4971f168

So actually the soul survivor from FO4 is clearly just one of the Nameless One's incarnations... and stuff. Because the FO lore has never, ever been completely wacky

[迪亚哥]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Percello:

My guess would be that they mutated, since they are mutants and all.

Yeah, maybe covid-25 will make us all more beautiful too. Something to hope for.

What happens when mix covid-25 with FEV?

[迪亚哥]

Ursprungligen skrivet av The Bayroog:

Im just going to nerd splooge all up in here for no reason:

Was it always a big scaly lizard thing? Nope. My initial design for this terrible creature was a the apex predator of the wasteland, a mix of wolverine and brown bear, mutated by the FEV. It could survive any environment and feared nothing; a legendary force of nature that struck terror into the hearts of men! Unfortunately, the artists took one look at my concept sketch and said, 'Dude, that's way too much hair.' It was true. The Wolverine-bear was very furry, and there was just no way around it.

So here's what happened: the newly formed Black Isle started work on what would be Planescape: Torment. One of the first art pieces was a monstrous creature called a Terrasque. It was sculpted in clay and was then point-by-painstaking-point digitized into a 3D model. As Planescape moved forward, it turned out that the Terrasque wouldn't actually be featured in its design, leaving that tasty model in disuse. Thus, the furry wolverine-bear became a hairless reptilian biped. (Take a look at page 339 of the D&D second edition Monster Manual. Holy cats! It's a Deathclaw!)

https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/fallout_gamepedia/f/fc/FB7_deathclaw_concept_art.png?version=38a61a56a525eec44af45b2f4971f168

So actually the soul survivor from FO4 is clearly just one of the Nameless One's incarnations... and stuff. Because the FO lore has never, ever been completely wacky

Your concept sketches are mega sloths

[The Bayroog]

Deathclaw.
Hairy Deathclaw
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Hairy_deathclaw
Or maybe it's just A DnD monster
https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/17034-tarrasque

But the mega sloth is just a mutated regular sloth that looks a lot like the North American Giant Sloth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megatherium

[The Bayroog]

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Deathclaw.
Hairy Deathclaw
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Hairy_deathclaw
Or maybe it's just A DnD monster
https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/17034-tarrasque

But the mega sloth is just a mutated regular sloth that looks a lot like the North American Giant Sloth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megatherium

Edit: In before, "Not in America": https://www.moas.org/Prehistory-of-Florida-Gallery-6-185.html Because I am an amatuer experrrt dinosaur guy on top of being able to read lore on wiki

[Mooman]

To understand why they changed you just have to look at the writers.

Bethesda before Fallout made The Elder Scrolls, a fairly generic Tolkien-esk fantasy world.

When they wrote for Fallout they did what they know so it is just Elder Scrolls with guns.

Super Mutants are therefore just generic Orcs, no more, no less. They are low effort.

[迪亚哥]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Mooman:

To understand why they changed you just have to look at the writers.

Bethesda before Fallout made The Elder Scrolls, a fairly generic Tolkien-esk fantasy world.

When they wrote for Fallout they did what they know so it is just Elder Scrolls with guns.

Super Mutants are therefore just generic Orcs, no more, no less. They are low effort.

Damn, some idiots are ruining the Fallout universe.