AFK Hate

[Y2K]

I know this thread will inevitably turn into Godwin's law but I have to ask...

Why do people get so hostile towards people AFKing during the Fasnacht Event?!?

It’s seems like people put more effort into complaining and “stopping” AFKers than the actual event itself. Explain to me the problem? Simply put:

AFKers being in the event does not affect you in absolutely anyway at all.

And the whole argument of tHeY dId’Nt eArN iT Is weak. It is funny to me because I bet 90% of you in game give out lots of things to other players for free BUT when it comes to an event the generosity stops?

Like what is the difference from someone not earning the 1000 wood themselves that you just gave them and someone not “earning” rewards in a particular annual event? And how about those players that spend the whole event trying to push AFKers out of the event zone with a chainsaw? They are not participating at all or helping during the event either....but they deserve the rewards? And the guys with the well thought out plan of nuking the event area to kill the AFKers daily- great idea...now low levels can’t participate and are forced to move servers, Congrats! You're a huge douche.

I’ve personally never been to an event that had under 5 people in it so it isn’t like you have to carry the whole event by yourself while someone is doing nothing but running against a wall.

And to the guys crying about AFKers can you honestly say you never AFKed to gain something in any game before?

The way I look at it is as simple as this- It is a fellow Fallout 76 player and fan not wanting to miss out. People (actually) work full time jobs and don’t want to miss out on specific limited time awards in their favorite game. People have kids they have to watch, have adult responsibilities that the majority of us here experience and know all too well which take priority over their hobby. We don’t have time to post on the forum all day and jump on every hour to play, so I get it. I totally get it.

Anyways! I say AFK away AFKers! cure that FOMO and good luck! You're gonna need it with the drop rates in this game.

[Grendalcat]

Originally posted by FoxyRaven:

To those who say, why dont you just server jump if you see alot of afk'ers? Why dont you just server jump if you see a nuke heading for the event?

Well that's only happened to me once, and that's what I did.

[Nemesis2k7]

Originally posted by Y2K:

I know this thread will inevitably turn into Godwin's law but I have to ask...

Why do people get so hostile towards people AFKing during the Fasnacht Event?!?

It’s seems like people put more effort into complaining and “stopping” AFKers than the actual event itself. Explain to me the problem? Simply put:

AFKers being in the event does not affect you in absolutely anyway at all.

And the whole argument of tHeY dId’Nt eArN iT Is weak. It is funny to me because I bet 90% of you in game give out lots of things to other players for free BUT when it comes to an event the generosity stops?

Like what is the difference from someone not earning the 1000 wood themselves that you just gave them and someone not “earning” rewards in a particular annual event? And how about those players that spend the whole event trying to push AFKers out of the event zone with a chainsaw? They are not participating at all or helping during the event either....but they deserve the rewards? And the guys with the well thought out plan of nuking the event area to kill the AFKers daily- great idea...now low levels can’t participate and are forced to move servers, Congrats! You're a huge douche.

I’ve personally never been to an event that had under 5 people in it so it isn’t like you have to carry the whole event by yourself while someone is doing nothing but running against a wall.

And to the guys crying about AFKers can you honestly say you never AFKed to gain something in any game before?

The way I look at it is as simple as this- It is a fellow Fallout 76 player and fan not wanting to miss out. People (actually) work full time jobs and don’t want to miss out on specific limited time awards in their favorite game. People have kids they have to watch, have adult responsibilities that the majority of us here experience and know all too well which take priority over their hobby. We don’t have time to post on the forum all day and jump on every hour to play, so I get it. I totally get it.

Anyways! I say AFK away AFKers! cure that FOMO and good luck! You're gonna need it with the drop rates in this game.

Because people need something to bit@@ about. thats all the can do. its troll and whinge. they will complain about anything and everything, just because they don't like it, they think everyone else does not like it, or has to not like it. its called entitlement

[Steel Rampage]

Originally posted by insert food here:

Just had a Fasnacht event where there were over 10 players there and EVERYONE except me was AFK. Event had started so i FT to it and it was well over 1 minute old and no one had spoke to the MC to even start the event yet.

Every single player was AFK in a corner with a macro running walking into a wall or jumping on the spot to avoid the DC timeout. Just sad.

Not the first time i have seen this at Fasnacht or other events. Just not as bad. No i have not ever deliberately AFK in order to get something. Sure i have had to answer phone or something far more important than a PC game at times while at events.

End of the day i could care less if players choose to deliberately AFK or not. But if it means the game cannot function because no one is actually doing the event it is a bit much.

We must have been on the same server! lol
While there 10 AFK scum there at Fasnacht it was me and one other player doing the event.
It was difficult but we got the AFK scum their exp.
Screw the AFK scum, they can go play Hello Kitty Adventure.

[Nemesis2k7]

interesting though. After around 10-15 mins, you are automatically kicked from servers for being AFK. so you CANT sit there for hours. And another thought, they could be on the toilet, answering the phone, anything like that..

[AlexSledge]

I feel inspired to AFK in that town now, and I don't even want any of the ugly masks or whatnot.

[lockwoodx]

I don't care if there's afks long as the event can be completed. I might start to care more if I had to use a bunch of expensive ammo to compensate for afk people. Otherwise I see it as more loot for me.

[insert food here]

Originally posted by Nemesis:

interesting though. After around 10-15 mins, you are automatically kicked from servers for being AFK. so you CANT sit there for hours. And another thought, they could be on the toilet, answering the phone, anything like that..

Yes they could be doing something important and be AFK for a short time, but they are not. That is the point. These players are doing something to prevent the auto DC for being idle from working. That is how they can be idle for hours and hours.

At Fasnacht it is super common for the AFKers to be in one of the buildings in a corner crouching and jumping endlessly with a macro or walking into a wall to bypass the auto kick detection. Often you just walk down the street and can hear someone running or jumping inside the buildings when this event is on.

[insert food here]

Originally posted by Steel Rampage:

We must have been on the same server! lol
While there 10 AFK scum there at Fasnacht it was me and one other player doing the event.
It was difficult but we got the AFK scum their exp.
Screw the AFK scum, they can go play Hello Kitty Adventure.

I don't like it. Why play if you have no intention of playing? Your spot on the server could have been used by someone actually wanting to participate. Instead we get you......

I can do the event solo if need be but that is not the point. I am playing a MP game and want to be doing events with others. Otherwise i would just be on a private server solo all the time. Not everybody can solo it and should not need to when there are lots of players there deliberately not participating.

[Maple Leaf Gamer]

if you don't want to play the game then don't play? doesn't sound too hard a choice to me!

[Alpha-2 November]

Because they are taking up slots that could be used by actual players. AFKer's most of the time are trying to milk whatever the event is for some kind of RMT profit, and likely have zero actual interest in the game anymore, or never did. Then they will turn around and whatever isnt worth actual money will be sold for no less than 15 thousand caps at their vendor. Nocturnal / Power Attack Damage Switch Blade? Doesnt matter, 15k. At that point, play something else dude.

Does this technically hurt me? No, I suppose not. It does however hurt the game. Seeing 7 mule accounts AFK in the same place at Eviction Notice is massively frustrating when I know that COULD be 7 people actually helping me do the event. I know I'm not the only person that thinks this, which means it is something actively hurting the total player count. More people frustrated with something means more chance for players to ditch the game. If you legitimately don't see the issue with AFKing (while likely using some kind of third party software), especially at the point where you are seeing multiple accounts from the same person, I really don't know how to get you to see that light.

[PotatoBasket]

Because; multiboxing users that use extensive hacking to hide and manipulate their profiles on Steam (easy to find; I'm looking at two different versions of the Steam profile of one such user right now)

These people aren't going to stop their activities and they will do everything they can to harm those they perceive as a threat to their actions. Do not trust Steam level or accounts that look like the user is a hacker because they probably are. Are hackers bad? Depends on what they do and how they interact with others. When they're championing Hate Speech and discrimination I would say those individuals are definitely bad people.

A multiboxing, multiaccount or similar-effect exploiter that has free asylum red dresses to give away when their lack of integrity is brought to light is a prime example of this. When such users jump to the defense of online griefing and direct sabotage of the game I think it answers the initial query, "Why do people get so hostile towards people AFKing", though it was clearly rhetorical and exacerbating rather than a genuine post.

[AlexSledge]

Originally posted by PotatoBasket:

(paraphrase: a bunch of valid points)

I know others have different opinions, because they believe the game is to be played 'differently' than other players.

However, I honestly just don't care, let people cheat to the high heavens in this game. I am more interested in why other people do care about a meaningless thing.

If someone has the rarest cosmetic macguffin in the game and dupes it 10,000 times it still has zero impact on me - directly OR indirectly. It should have zero impact on you (royal 'you', not you PB!).

For some reason idiots don't want other people to have the valueless things they have. You are special, you are loved, you don't need an ephemeral digital asset to make you so.

Also, so long as Bethesda makes $$ on it, they don't care if you run with 50 accounts making purple & pink blood eagle jackets or whatever. Make a big stink and 'they make an example' of one or two people, then take their money when they open new accounts.

[PotatoBasket]

What that poster said.

Personally I don't care about politics or prejudice; Or users to exploit to get more items.

it's when people use our games as a method of inflicting real damage on our player bases that I got involved and am now the local crazy that can't get away from it; fine by me so long as nobody ends up dead via my video games. When specific posters directly incite or directly cause damage to other users lives it falls into the category of crossing the line - or I'd keep my mouth shut and everyone can blast green dudes in the face in peace and comfort.

[Wade]

I must say I like AFKers, they bring variety in this game. Feels like a whole new faction. I would like to meet their leader, but he's probably sleeping all the time.

[Y2K]

Originally posted by Mooman:

Remember this?

Seems hypocritical to me. Now, in that thread PB did go a bit weird, but who was the one going on about employment? How is that any different to AFK expecting to be rewarded?

Don't answer, I don't care, as after this post we won't converse again as you've shown the true calibre of your character Y2K.

Did we just break up? And you do care, also I bet we will converse in the future.

But really how can I not respond? I have so many questions about your post. Why did you bring up such an old thread? I don’t think you realize how much cringe you just painted yourself with, even if you think you have a point.

Did that post legit live rent free in your head for this long that you had to quote it and bring it up? Like how old even is it? Was this not months ago last year? And I need to know how much of your personal time did it take you to dig that one up?

Originally posted by Mooman:

Now, in that thread PB did go a bit weird

Yes, I agree, said person did go a “bit” weird and that’s because he has mental health issues stemming from a minor online harassment incident that pushed his mind over his mental barrier causing him to live in delusional and paranoia state, which in return making him have a mix of a hero complex and in his view giving him a true purpose in life that he was so desperately searching for (such a fantastic super hero origin story) thinking he is stopping violence, deaths and genocide through a report button. But in reality his mental health is only getting worse monthly exacerbated by what I can only assume is complete physical inactivity, lack of vitamin D and probably Basement Radon Gas.- and that’s exactly why blocked him.

What I’m really getting at with all this is: be careful of that guy, don’t say he was a bit weird, he is mentally unhinged and has nothing but time on his hands. He seems like the type of guy that would try to get a class action lawsuit on you because you accidentally misgendered someone or even show up at you door step.

I do however wish him the best in his stagnant journey and hope one day his dad will actually be proud to talk about him in conversations at the dinner table.

Originally posted by Y2K:

We don’t have time to post on the forum all day and jump on every hour to play, so I get it. I totally get it.

 
So I’ll just assume that me saying this ^ hurt your feelers, thus you putting research time into your comment because it hit close to home or something forcing you to measure my calibre, But after all this typing I’ll leave it all alone and just answer your question:

So...really man? “How is that any different”?! Your gonna compare real life problems, real life lazy, selfish, victim mindset people taking advantage of undeserved financial aid without a single feeling of guilt or shame, crippling the countries future when actual disabled people desperately need it- and compare THAT to a pleasantly mid addictive in game reward system? Lol. I also see your calibre now. Please give your head a shake kid. And you know where the block button is.