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Miskyavine 17 ABR 2024 a las 8:36 a. m.
Lol Bethesda so salty New Vegas was the best fallout they nuked the NCR as revenge
Yikes Todd Howard must have been seething that the best 3D Fallout game was Fallout New Vegas that he straight up nukes and weakens the NCR into obscurity lmao how pathetic.
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AbsynthMinded 17 ABR 2024 a las 1:49 p. m. 
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Yikes Todd Howard must have been seething that the best 3D Fallout game was Fallout New Vegas that he straight up nukes and weakens the NCR into obscurity lmao how pathetic.
Duh, because Caesar's legion won that fight... ;)

Anyway, regarding the NCR, isn't that more because they are the "new california republic" and the Bethesda games haven't been taking place anywhere near california?

Personally, I want to see what happens to china. I feel like they've done enough with the USA as a setting to bash and they should pick another country to poke fun at, and the russia-china hybrid has been a key part of the fallout setting for a while, despite no real content.

I don't think I'll live long enough to see Fallout: China, but that's what I hope for.

You can't enjoy Quirky Americana Tropes in a Nuked China. And without that, it isn't really Fallout.
lockwoodx 17 ABR 2024 a las 2:20 p. m. 
OP may be a troll but they spot on with the truth bomb.
ronr42 17 ABR 2024 a las 2:29 p. m. 
This thread is still just a kick in the head.

Bethesda has always pretty much stayed away from making references to New Vegas. It's because they didn't make New Vegas, Obsidian did.

So, it's obvious they make their games take place on the other end of the country closer to where their studio is located.
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lockwoodx 17 ABR 2024 a las 2:31 p. m. 
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OP may be a troll but they spot on with the truth bomb.
Nah.
I double checked the web for general consensus; legion would have won the short term but NCR is stretched far enough to leave remainders (the president of shady sands, for instance :cqlol: ) and the Legion would have collapsed for a number of reasons if only the eventuality of Ceasar's death. More likely both factions would break into smaller gangs/settlements - UNLESS they allied with another stronger power or the Courier followed "supposed to" lore in aiding the NCR (Yes you have a choice, but that's so scripted it isn't really).

Props to users for taking this and running with it. I am proven wrong due to your efforts; apologies for my initial grumpiness.

The NCR was being undercut and bled dry by Crimson Caravan, Van Graffs, and House. They're a legion of labor but undisciplined like the real Legion which would have easily broken their moral and taken Vegas had House not intervened.
BizarreMan 17 ABR 2024 a las 3:09 p. m. 
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You obviously never played NV, because a nuke is dropped on the NCR.
That was an option in the Lonesome Road DLC but not canon at the time.


I think we can consider it to be canon now.

What NV does incredibly well is faction development, and the ability to have differing relationships with all of the factions.
TrashPanda 17 ABR 2024 a las 3:18 p. m. 
Good riddance to the NCR, may another rise built upon its ashes.
PotatoBasket 17 ABR 2024 a las 3:19 p. m. 
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Good riddance to the NCR, may another rise built upon its ashes.
Hear, hear.
And better.
Miskyavine 18 ABR 2024 a las 6:41 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por ronr42:
This thread is still just a kick in the head.

Bethesda has always pretty much stayed away from making references to New Vegas. It's because they didn't make New Vegas, Obsidian did.

So, it's obvious they make their games take place on the other end of the country closer to where their studio is located.
And when they did that they had great lore but man there intro into the West Coast really soured most of the fanbase or atleast most of the old school fanbase alot of brainlet newbies just consume from Bethesda without any negative feedback... these "new fans" talking about how bad off the NCR was but Ceasers Legion were like 75-90% Melee and run on slave labour with around equal population and micro west coast BoS were so scared they didnt even leave there Bunkers... Weird how all fo a sudden the NCR is gone and BoS now Dominate on par with the East Coast Brotherhood...

Im all for East Coast BoS but West Coast BoS were a bunch of scared ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. So maybe there will be a East vs West war since there quite a bit differant idologically but it still seems like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dumb idea to straight remove the only faction in the west that wasnt abject evil or small with no power and replace them with a faction that magically muiltiplied in power by a sum of like 100x Something here people are forgetting
EJR 18 ABR 2024 a las 7:21 a. m. 
NV is a great game by itself and definitely deserves praise. But it is far from being the "best Fallout game."

What really pulls NV down isn't even its own fault, it is the fault of those who are so preachy - and sometimes toxic, as OP is here - about how "great" NV is in the whole franchise or even go as far that it is the best in the RPG genre. And will have many people agree with them, but 'many' never means everyone. In fact, there is a good number of Fallout fans that despise NV (Me included) because of how obnoxious NV fanboys are; it is what I like to call the "Harry Potter effect," the product itself is fine but its fanbase is what pushes people away because of how preachy they are and how much they refuse to expose themselves to other works..

And to what Iceman PJN said, I too had a much buggier experience in NV than I did with 3, 4, or even 76. In 3, my gamebreaking bug was that I couldn't start a new game which wouldn't CTD the moment my character was born. Thankfully, my saved game works fine. For 4, it wouldn't launch for a good while, but after playing around with the files and pre-launch settings the game works just fine without issue. For 76, I can literally count the number of different bugs I had from launch to now all on one hand: T-posing ghouls and CTDs, both of which disappeared within a few months after launch or after Wastelanders dropped.

NV though? Whoo boy! Likely the most broken game of the FPS games. Yes, unlike 3 I can start a new game just fine, I actually tried doing a new playthrough back in May last year. Key word is "tried." The game CTDs every 15-20 minutes, and there is no way I can prevent it so I need to quicksave almost every 3-5 minutes while looking over my shoulder scared when the next crash may be. At least with 3 I know that it is starting a new game that makes the game CTD so I can just load up an existing save, but in NV both new and saved games are affected. After surprisingly putting up with it for 3hrs, I called it quits and uninstalled NV. Now the only Fallout games on my PC are 4 and 76.

Like I said, NV definitely deserved its praise. And it probably was the best game in the genre at the time. But best Fallout game overall? Hard disagree, and that is by its own flaws alone not its community. Add that factor in and its value sharply drops to become the worst.

And if OP wishes to reply with that stupid argument of, "You didn't claim what Fallout game is the best so my point still stands," then the best game in the series is Fallout 2. It may not be the most popular one. But like Harry Potter, popularity isn't synonymous with being the best.

Have a good day!
AbsynthMinded 18 ABR 2024 a las 7:23 a. m. 
Interesting tho every time a poll is put up, FONV seems to win out.. Every time..
EJR 18 ABR 2024 a las 7:48 a. m. 
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Interesting tho every time a poll is put up, FONV seems to win out.. Every time..
And like I said, NV fanboys are always so preachy to praise and defend their beloved game to their graves. And like Harry Potter, this keeps it on top. If you truly believe that NV is the best, why bother coming here in the first place? I am genuinely curious.
Mooman 18 ABR 2024 a las 11:23 a. m. 
IGN interview:
https://www.ign.com/articles/the-big-fallout-interview-todd-howard-and-jonathan-nolan-answer-our-burning-questions-about-season-1

The thing you start to realise is that Todd's/Bethesda's input was minimal. The showrunners are the ones that stuffed it up trying to get key emotional beats.

What Bethesda failed at was keeping the showrunners in line.
`digitaL.braVo 18 ABR 2024 a las 11:44 a. m. 
Reported and filtered.
TwinChops 18 ABR 2024 a las 11:49 a. m. 
Can we end this "Whats the Best fallout" now?
Its NV, 96% Positive Reviews on Steam, followed by 1 and 2 with 94%, and i allready forgot the other % numbers, but then its 4, 3 and 76, but all games are over 75% so they're all dang good.
Metacritic does not count because littery a Dog could leave a review score and it would count.
AbsynthMinded 18 ABR 2024 a las 11:56 a. m. 
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Interesting tho every time a poll is put up, FONV seems to win out.. Every time..
And like I said, NV fanboys are always so preachy to praise and defend their beloved game to their graves. And like Harry Potter, this keeps it on top. If you truly believe that NV is the best, why bother coming here in the first place? I am genuinely curious.

Really? That's your final assessment? If we think FONV was the best why are we not all playing that instead of this? I personally have played through FONV to over a Dozen possible ending combinations. I have 100% completion on Achievements in FONV, of the 3 games I can say that about.

When FONV is eventually reborn fully into the FO4 Engine I'll play the hell out of that. Once you completely consume a ting to the point you can quote and speak in detail about every aspect of that story from every side, there's no point going back again. This does not detract from the reality that FONV is the best content of all the FO Franchise content available.

F76, is the only NEW content we will see for the next 10 years. The coming addition for FO4 is just a side quest at best. When FO4 London is complete I'll probably indulge myself to see what they accomplished.
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