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The Problem is now both coasts now have the Brotherhood as the strongest faction NCR was great on the West Coast having a strong somewhat civilized faction over there that was capable of having actual fights with Ceasers Legion the West Coast Brotherhood were hiding in there bunkers low on troops and moral since they didnt recruit outsiders like the East Coast Brotherhood.
NCR is what made the West Coast interestind Ceasers Legion would just get smoked by a large Brotherhood force that somehow formed on the West Coast despite last time we saw them they were scared hiding in there bunkers.
The Problem is now one of the coasts have to have there BoS faction fall to another faction and East Coast Brotherhood is the best faction overthere with the Institute just being incredibably uninteresting and aesthetically unpleasing.
NCR had all the right stuff,
Civilisation,
Aesthetics
Idiology
And actual combat weaknesses and could have actual battles unlike the Brotherhood that shows up with Power armor and reenacts Desert Strom every time they show up.
it should have been the West Coast Brotherhood collapsing with there remnants joining the NCR were the NCR takes over the west half of the USA and Canada and the East Coast being conquered bt thwe BoS and the battlefield being the MidWest but now who the f knows what ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bethesda with make happen now
I think it would have been nice if the brotherhood eventually merged with the NCR and just became its military. They are mostly both lawful good, but the brotherhood seems too Stoic to simply fold into another faction.
It's interesting, since I've always sort of viewed these stories as self-contained things that weren't really leading up to anything in particular, was anyone really expecting the world to actually manage to rebuild. It seems like there will always be small pockets of civilisation, but it'll never actually fully succeed in reclaiming the wasteland. There's always going to be some sort of setback. The capital of the NCR is gone but there weren't many hints in the TV show about any remnants or any other large factions. I suppose over time, it's possible that they could rebuild.
It does seem like they want to bring the enclave back in as more of a true enemy that still exists in some capacity.
They are not impervious to failure and corruption. The BoS should be destroyed as a logical progression of Liberty. Freedom and Liberty have risks, allowing for the maximum potential for Greatness. The BoS does not support Liberty or Freedom as a foundational concept.
Things they didn't touch yet;
Aliens
Ghoul civilizations
Mutant remainders, and how they fit in post-masterminds
Modus, all of the various ZAX, not to mention Cyborgs, Synths, etc.
Many of the surviving factions such as the various mob-organizations and gangs (or the Shi)
Though it seems they have nixed the legion in favor of NCR being the victor, then being removed as the competition. Their survivors would make great raider-lords, though.
The big impression I got was that the brotherhood power had waned; a multitude of fractures and factions leaving it splintered at best. You only really see the one elder, with no mention of any contact with others.
I'm interested most in what new factions season 2 highlights and what the show brings to the fore so far as the present super powers (clearly the enclave is one, in some capacity or another..)
If you don't support NCR and help them fully, they are meant to fall in the game.
The game literally screams at you that the NCR is pulled thin. Low resources and surrounded by fanatics that think rape and murder at the first actions towards a stranger.
But I guess we can simply ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that Todd Howard somehow cares about what a consumer buys that still makes him money.
Use your head. Your post sounds childish. Todd is a lizard person. Why would he have emotions?
This is correct.
People that favor New Vegas go on about it being the best as though that's universally agreed upon, and they do have plenty of people to agree with them. That's not the same as everyone agreeing on it, or it being true.
I still like New Vegas least. People go on about story, but story is a small part of the package. While Bethesda gets jabs for bugs, I had a buggier experience in New Vegas than I did in 3 or 4, and possibly 76. I absolutely hate the setting of New Vegas. The city is the most interesting part but it's a small percentage of the map and still not terribly interesting to me. The rest was a desert. Deserts are lame to begin with, and didn't get more interesting after being nuked. I can't think of a less interesting setting for something. Story is part of the game but a lame setting spans the entirety of it.
I do miss a few songs from the New Vegas radio, though.
And yet again, one who did not claim, A Best Fallout Game..
If you can't vote for one, the one getting the votes at all wins.
The show takes place 15 years after the events in NV so anything could happen in that amount of time. The NCR isn't totally destroyed, either. We see that at the end of the show, but it is in a weaker state than it was left in NV. I don't really understand why this is an issue for anyone as it's vulnerability and disadvantages are alluded to at the end of the game. If anything, I like that they highlighted that with how they handled the NCR in the show.
Isometric top down, over world map with random encounters, making it feel like a massive game world. A mostly regurgitated story from Fallout 1 with added flavor. A solid choice.
Just not the most popular one.
Anyway, that's the Bethesda way. Write what you know seems to often mean copy something else with a Fallout twist.
The key thing in the movie is the Civil War. Since war never changes you can bet season two will have a Civil War between the BoS and NCR at its centre.
But the destruction of Shady Sands wasn't a Vault-tec vs NCR thing, IMO. It was about getting rid of the competition. Hank's competition for his wife's affection was in Shady Sands. It is a far darker story of control and psychology as she took the kids away from him.
Most of Bethesda's work involves absent or deadbeat parents. Write what you know, huh... (I make no fun of people in difficult situations, but when generational trauma pervades your artistic work it creates its own problems).
3 was better than NV when it comes down to lore and world building.
NV was pushed as better because people hate Bethesda and Todd Howard, and how much they hurt Obsidian. NV introduced interesting new factions and told the west coast side of things but it was buggier and the story wasn't as complex. If you are honest in comparing the two you will realize that NV copied a lot of what 3 had already done and just improved on it (which isn't hard) while putting a more western setting on the world to distinguish itself and help push the west coast narrative.
Buckle up for this next part, because 4 is considered the best in the series. We got a better engine, better graphics, better world, better lore, a more compelling and relatable story, base building, better survival, everything was better in 4. The only thing 4 did that everyone agrees was absolutely wrong was changing the speech check system to be more basic, which felt like a huge downgrade.
If you are into stats you can confirm this by seeing how many congruent players are still playing 4, and if you deep dive those stats you will see how long 4 has sat in the top 100 above NV. Fo4 is widely considered to be one of the greatest videos games ever made btw.
As far as the show..
Nothing about the show is sniping or ruining lore from NV, I've heard and read every single argument made and it's all bias opinion. If you have played all the games and can actually follow and (keyword = remember) the story, you would know how on point the show actually is. What NV fans are actually upset about is how there wasn't more NCR representation. Which is wild when you realize the show brought up NCR for a reason, they are obviously going to get more representation in later seasons. The first season of any series is always an introductory season, we got to know the main factions the show will later focus on, season 1 gave us more vault than anything and the groundwork for how chaotic the wasteland is. I feel like the NV crowd should just be thankful the show even included NV, I saw it as an absolute win for the community and a peace offering to obsidian.
Post kind of reads like you read someones opinion on reddit or watched some chump youtuber and then with out doing any research just decided it must be true and made a low effort troll post. Sad times.
I mean gameplay wise maybe not but for it's time it was better than Fallout 3.
But for all the other stuff that makes it a great fallout it was the best.
Anyway, regarding the NCR, isn't that more because they are the "new california republic" and the Bethesda games haven't been taking place anywhere near california?
Personally, I want to see what happens to china. I feel like they've done enough with the USA as a setting to bash and they should pick another country to poke fun at, and the russia-china hybrid has been a key part of the fallout setting for a while, despite no real content.
I don't think I'll live long enough to see Fallout: China, but that's what I hope for.