State of modding in F76?

[Darq]

I remember darkly, when the game was released, a few months later people would get mass banned for using mods, even UI mods.
I've started F:NV again with a bazzilion of mods.
Modding has kind of always been a Bethesda games thing.

What's the current state of modding in Fallout 76?

[Autoro]

As long as you aren't using invincibility cheats, or infinite ammo cheats, or similar "Infinite resource" cheats, you're good.

Plan/cap stash highlighters, UI mods, and other light mods do not get you banned.

And if anyone says the glowing plan/stash mod is cheating.... None of the world plans are valuable, due to them being respawning and infinite, and cap stashes provide minimal amount of caps, usually less than 1 mid-level event.

As long as you keep to basic mods, you'll be fine.

[AlexSledge]

People get banned for using mods, even those others claim are "safe to use", so as always, you're on your own.

Plenty of whiny threads in the forums to prove it.

[Sothis]

Originally posted by AlexSledge:

Plenty of whiny threads in the forums to prove it.

Which we have no real information about.

Might have been caught actually cheating, they'd never tell.
And if you look at "reputable" modding sites such as nexus mods, you'll weirdly find little to nothing of such "whiny" threads.

The official stance is "we do not and cannot help if you mod and ♥♥♥♥ up your game", nowhere do they state "It's forbidden and you WILL get banned", which they absolutely would if true.

There is 0 credible evidence for bans due to graphic mods, ESP mods and such not so sure but still has not been actually proven.

As always, you are right that it's the risk of the user to take, but you claiming they are banned for UI mods and such is as believable as them going "and I never even cheated".

It's just the old tripe of "not officially supported, use at your own risk".

Which is still a risk of course but not forbidden, and that's a huge difference.

[vincelang]

Originally posted by Autoro:

As long as you aren't using invincibility cheats, or infinite ammo cheats, or similar "Infinite resource" cheats, you're good.

So I have a question, being a newb and all. If I use a cosmetic mod to tweak my character's appearance, only I can see that, yes? As in : the other players only see the base, "normal" texture?

[Autoro]

Originally posted by vincelang:

Originally posted by Autoro:

As long as you aren't using invincibility cheats, or infinite ammo cheats, or similar "Infinite resource" cheats, you're good.

So I have a question, being a newb and all. If I use a cosmetic mod to tweak my character's appearance, only I can see that, yes? As in : the other players only see the base, "normal" texture?

Yes. All mods are client-side. There are no server side mods for Fallout 76.

[Sythalin]

Originally posted by AlexSledge:

People get banned for using mods, even those others claim are "safe to use", so as always, you're on your own.

Plenty of whiny threads in the forums to prove it.

Yes, and 100% of those threads provide 0 verifiable proof of a safe mod causing their bans.

Originally posted by Everyone:

Show us your mod list

CheatingLoser6969 quickly deletes infinite health/ammo/aimbot and screen caps

Originally posted by CheatingLoser6969:

See? All "safe" mods! They didn't say what mod I was supposedly using, but trust me bro!

[AlexSledge]

Originally posted by Sothis:

Originally posted by AlexSledge:

Plenty of whiny threads in the forums to prove it.

Which we have no real information about.

Might have been caught actually cheating, they'd never tell.
And if you look at "reputable" modding sites such as nexus mods, you'll weirdly find little to nothing of such "whiny" threads.

The official stance is "we do not and cannot help if you mod and ♥♥♥♥ up your game", nowhere do they state "It's forbidden and you WILL get banned", which they absolutely would if true.

There is 0 credible evidence for bans due to graphic mods, ESP mods and such not so sure but still has not been actually proven.

As always, you are right that it's the risk of the user to take, but you claiming they are banned for UI mods and such is as believable as them going "and I never even cheated".

It's just the old tripe of "not officially supported, use at your own risk".

Which is still a risk of course but not forbidden, and that's a huge difference.

This is the official stance Bethesda has on the subject:
https://help.bethesda.net/#en/answer/44429

Pretty cut & dried. As said, it's their money, their dice to roll.

I fully support modding, using cheats, or whatever you want in games to make them fun for you, so long as they don't make things less fun for others. WeMod is such an amazing piece of software. However, my opinion has nothing to do with whether or not the Bethesda person looking at your account decides to ban it because of how your dice rolled. :)

[Wack-A-Mole MLRS]

Can't we not get just one brave Dweller to Load up a ton of Mods and then let us know. These threads about Yes you can-No you can't have been going on for almost 6 yrs. now. Load them Up Load them up Load them up and let AI decide.

[Admiral Hackett [N7]]

I know the time indeed when the game came out and people got banned for using mods. These days is a bit of tricky days, it's officially still not allowed if you read the Bethesda policy, there are people that use mods for years without any problems and also people that use mods for a short time and got perma bans.

It's all up to you, can't make a decision for you then only i can say: use mods at your own risk.

[RMPyro]

Havn't heard anyone getting banned for using mods. Was some guys that got banned for duping claiming they got banned for using mods. Havn't heard anyone else getting banned for using mods, so I guess they was lying to get unbanned.

One guy got banned for using cheat engine in game while he played, and he used it to datamine the game. The tool is made for cheating, and triggered the ingame anti cheat. Well he got unbanned later, but it was kind of stupid to use a cheat tool to datamine a live service online game while playing, most basic anti cheat would trigger on it.

[Paladwyn]

Originally posted by AlexSledge:

This is the official stance Bethesda has on the subject:
https://help.bethesda.net/#en/answer/44429

Pretty cut & dried. As said, it's their money, their dice to roll.

I fully support modding, using cheats, or whatever you want in games to make them fun for you, so long as they don't make things less fun for others. WeMod is such an amazing piece of software. However, my opinion has nothing to do with whether or not the Bethesda person looking at your account decides to ban it because of how your dice rolled. :)

And that quote from them only says they don't support it. If you muck up your game because of it then that's on you. Don't come to them for help.

It doesn't say that they will ban you for it or that it's prohibited in any way.

[Hinuto]

on nexus alot of EPS, color marks and etc helping find and get stuff, nobody getting ban from it

[vomder]

No one has ever been banned for using mods. Not one piece of proof has ever been provide.

[destrux]

Originally posted by Wack-A-Mole MLRS:

Can't we not get just one brave Dweller to Load up a ton of Mods and then let us know. These threads about Yes you can-No you can't have been going on for almost 6 yrs. now. Load them Up Load them up Load them up and let AI decide.

Yeah there's a few thousand people doing exactly that, including me who has been using UI mods since 2018. Currently running 39 mods including UI, text chat, some retextures, some texture bugfixes, some animation swaps (fixes power armor entry freeze), some sound swaps. 3k hours total in game with this stuff. When nuclear winter had a "mod check" I got kicked to main screen many times because I forgot to disable my mods I was using in adventure mode. So they could easily tell that I was using mods.

IMO it's safe to say that every single person who was banned for "using mods" was either banned for something else that was running on their PC they didn't know was running or they were not just using mods they were using hacks. Contrary to popular belief the game does have, and has had since day one an anti-cheat system built in that detects basic cheat tools like cheat engine. It's not bulletproof but anyone who has no idea it's there and tries using cheat engine will quickly find themselves banned for it. There's also a slim possibility of false positives from it, like the rumor that people using Steam Deck were getting banned because of a tool suite that is commonly used on steam deck.

[Dezktop]

is almost like the nexus for years has not told you USE AT YOUR OWN RISK